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Serejai
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 12 2013 09:19 Serejai wrote: Could someone explain who this Enel fellow is to me? I see him talked about all the time but I don't remember seeing him in the anime. Was he in a filler arc that I skipped? He was the big boss on the island in the sky, skypiea. The thunder guy with the golden staff. | ||
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agahamsorr0w
Netherlands359 Posts
On August 12 2013 09:19 Serejai wrote: Could someone explain who this Enel fellow is to me? I see him talked about all the time but I don't remember seeing him in the anime. Was he in a filler arc that I skipped? skipea arc. hes the end boss of that arc with the electricity devil fruit. he can basically hit you with 100k volt if he wants to. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On August 12 2013 08:47 shell wrote: We all know enel has a very strong DF fruit, but he still lacks in experience, strenght, staming, agility and haki (besides observation?).. Akainu is a motherfucking stone cold killer.. enel tought he was a god Mihawk is also a very strong guy, not admiral level or younkou but very strong Just let it go.. I really don't understand people like you. Let's end this debate once and for all. In terms of fighting level( not political power or alliances), Mihawk is same level as admiral and yonkous. He is like the "end game boss" for Zoro and he has been denying to fight shanks because he felt like he had to fight a disadvantaged man. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 12 2013 09:57 Shinokuki wrote: I really don't understand people like you. Let's end this debate once and for all. In terms of fighting level( not political power or alliances), Mihawk is same level as admiral and yonkous. He is like the "end game boss" for Zoro and he has been denying to fight shanks because he felt like he had to fight a disadvantaged man. before time skip id agree with you but now im not so sure that Mihawk will be Zoros final boss imo Shiryuu takes him down with some underhanded tactic | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On August 12 2013 09:57 Shinokuki wrote: I really don't understand people like you. Let's end this debate once and for all. In terms of fighting level( not political power or alliances), Mihawk is same level as admiral and yonkous. How do you know that? if he was that strong he could have soloed whitebeard during marineford... Mihawk could never be yonkou level because he doesnt have a crew, and being a yonkou comes from having a big ass powerful crew. | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:36 sc2holar wrote: How do you know that? if he was that strong he could have soloed whitebeard during marineford... Mihawk could never be yonkou level because he doesnt have a crew, and being a yonkou comes from having a big ass powerful crew. He meant yonkou level in terms of individual strength. And maybe he could have soloed Whitebeard if he wasn't too busy fending off Vista and Diamond Jozu. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:49 GettingIt wrote: He meant yonkou level in terms of individual strength. And maybe he could have soloed Whitebeard if he wasn't too busy fending off Vista and Diamond Jozu. what is your definition of "strongest man in the world" cause that was whitebeards title noone could solo whitebeard | ||
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Zambrah
United States7384 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote: what is your definition of "strongest man in the world" cause that was whitebeards title noone could solo whitebeard Gol D. Roger could have a go of it though.  | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2546 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote: what is your definition of "strongest man in the world" cause that was whitebeards title noone could solo whitebeard I think he means most powerful. I also happen to think that Whitebeard is the strongest in terms of muscle strength as well since his Gura Gura basically relies on him punching the air really hard. I also think his earthquake punch is on par with that King's super punch in the tournament. But power is really situational. We've seen many interesting counters and match ups between people who are supposedly different "power ranks". Notable examples are Mr. 3 and Magellan as well as Luffy and Enel. But also there's Blackbeard and Bartholomew who can both absorb powers (earthquake punch and king punch, respectively). There isn't necessarily a Yonku level in the same way there isn't a Schichibukai level. Characters like Moria and Buggy are relatively weak Schichibukai while characters like Mihawk and Kuma are downright crazy strong. Even if Mihawk is the best swordsman in the world, there's no telling how his ability will match up to Whitebeard. They both are very experienced and have been in countless battles. Both have substantial Haki and can both cause fancy explosions. But maybe Whitebeard has too good of a defense for Mihawk to hit him or maybe Mihawk is just so fast that he can dance circles around Whitebeard. With our current understanding of things, we just don't know who would win. | ||
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spaZps
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On August 12 2013 10:46 Forikorder wrote: before time skip id agree with you but now im not so sure that Mihawk will be Zoros final boss imo Shiryuu takes him down with some underhanded tactic I have to say I'm realllllly curious how Zoro training under Mihawk went. It's probably the one training arc flashback I crave. Additionally, we still don't know Mihawk's end game. I know he seems to be pretty "go with the flow" sort of guy, but I actually have an impression it might be a mask. What made him the greatest swordsman to begin with? Why is he a pirate, and not just a swordsman? Where's his crew? Does he have one? What is he striving for? Every person has a purpose, what is his? Mihawk to me is the most mysterious Shichibukai after Doflamingo. We're getting our Doflamingo arc now, so Mihawk will be the most mysterious after this. Anyway. It's oda, and Mihawk is badass. Shiryuu needs to build himself up more to be a final Zoro boss. Simply being attached to Blackbeard isn't enough. In fact, I think the whole reason Burgess is on this island is to build him up in the long game. I could see Burgess going undefeated in this arc, but not being a big player. Just taking out someone who would be the proverbial Worf (see: star trek). EDIT: Also, we never saw Whitebeard in his prime. Honestly, in his aged sickly stabbed form, Akainu was solo'ing him pretty well. Took two earthquakes to the body to take him out of the battle for like 5 minutes before Akainu then proceeded to wreck tonnes of other strong pirates in a 1v200. Arguable of course, and I think I'm an Akainu fanboy. I love a good villain. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On August 12 2013 12:09 Hyperbola wrote: I think he means most powerful. I also happen to think that Whitebeard is the strongest in terms of muscle strength as well since his Gura Gura basically relies on him punching the air really hard. I also think his earthquake punch is on par with that King's super punch in the tournament. But power is really situational. We've seen many interesting counters and match ups between people who are supposedly different "power ranks". Notable examples are Mr. 3 and Magellan as well as Luffy and Enel. But also there's Blackbeard and Bartholomew who can both absorb powers (earthquake punch and king punch, respectively). There isn't necessarily a Yonku level in the same way there isn't a Schichibukai level. Characters like Moria and Buggy are relatively weak Schichibukai while characters like Mihawk and Kuma are downright crazy strong. Even if Mihawk is the best swordsman in the world, there's no telling how his ability will match up to Whitebeard. They both are very experienced and have been in countless battles. Both have substantial Haki and can both cause fancy explosions. But maybe Whitebeard has too good of a defense for Mihawk to hit him or maybe Mihawk is just so fast that he can dance circles around Whitebeard. With our current understanding of things, we just don't know who would win. Dont forget Doflamingo and Jimbei, they are crazy strong aswell. But in a fight against Blackbeard i would probably pick Jimbei and Mihawk since they are non-DF users. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:11 sc2holar wrote: Dont forget Doflamingo and Jimbei, they are crazy strong aswell. But in a fight against Blackbeard i would probably pick Jimbei and Mihawk since they are non-DF users. Blackbeards fruit isnt more effective against DF users, wether your a fruit user or not hell still try to pull you in, grab hld and smack you around fruit users would fare better against him (as lkong as they can do long range combat though the Quake fruit handles that weakness) | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:17 Forikorder wrote: Blackbeards fruit isnt more effective against DF users, wether your a fruit user or not hell still try to pull you in, grab hld and smack you around fruit users would fare better against him (as lkong as they can do long range combat though the Quake fruit handles that weakness) Vortex has the potential to Disable DF fruit powers, and DF fruit users arent used to fighting without their abilities. of course its more effective against DF users. I would not use it against Mihawk though since you really dont want to be in melee range of that guy. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:34 sc2holar wrote: Vortex has the potential to Disable DF fruit powers, and DF fruit users arent used to fighting without their abilities. of course its more effective against DF users. I would not use it against Mihawk though since you really dont want to be in melee range of that guy. Yeah, though BB's durability is also ridiculously high. He was no slouch up close before the time skip, and I can't imagine how strong he is physically now. | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
Let's talk about how cute the Little people are. Or how the tournament will not come to a close and how every single One Piece fan will be mad at Oda for not finishing such a good opportunity for such a cool thing. FIGHTING TOURNAMENTS are awesome in mangas! DragonBall, Yu Yu Hakusho and more. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 12 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote: what is your definition of "strongest man in the world" cause that was whitebeards title noone could solo whitebeard There are other yonkous? | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On August 12 2013 09:22 agahamsorr0w wrote: skipea arc. hes the end boss of that arc with the electricity devil fruit. he can basically hit you with 100k volt if he wants to. Wow... that sounds really strong. So Enel is the strongest person in One Piece? I mean, electricity is faster than all other elements, is hotter than fire, can probably short circuit Franky, can melt steel (like Zoros swords), etc. Plus I googled him and it says he owns the Moon and can fly in outer space. This guy is clearly the strongest and will be Luffy's end boss. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 12 2013 14:19 Serejai wrote: Wow... that sounds really strong. So Enel is the strongest person in One Piece? I mean, electricity is faster than all other elements, is hotter than fire, can probably short circuit Franky, can melt steel (like Zoros swords), etc. Plus I googled him and it says he owns the Moon and can fly in outer space. This guy is clearly the strongest and will be Luffy's end boss. Obvious troll. Go flamebait in another thread? | ||
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