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On August 12 2013 14:19 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 09:22 agahamsorr0w wrote:On August 12 2013 09:19 Serejai wrote:
Could someone explain who this Enel fellow is to me? I see him talked about all the time but I don't remember seeing him in the anime. Was he in a filler arc that I skipped? skipea arc. hes the end boss of that arc with the electricity devil fruit. he can basically hit you with 100k volt if he wants to. Wow... that sounds really strong. So Enel is the strongest person in One Piece? I mean, electricity is faster than all other elements, is hotter than fire, can probably short circuit Franky, can melt steel (like Zoros swords), etc. Plus I googled him and it says he owns the Moon and can fly in outer space. This guy is clearly the strongest and will be Luffy's end boss.
No, Light (Kizarus fruit) is faster than Electricity and works pretty much like the lightning fruit except better ini every way. Enels attacks only work on elements that circuit electricity, meaning Luffy is Immune and probably a dozen of logia users too.
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On August 12 2013 14:19 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 09:22 agahamsorr0w wrote:On August 12 2013 09:19 Serejai wrote:
Could someone explain who this Enel fellow is to me? I see him talked about all the time but I don't remember seeing him in the anime. Was he in a filler arc that I skipped? skipea arc. hes the end boss of that arc with the electricity devil fruit. he can basically hit you with 100k volt if he wants to. Wow... that sounds really strong. So Enel is the strongest person in One Piece? I mean, electricity is faster than all other elements, is hotter than fire, can probably short circuit Franky, can melt steel (like Zoros swords), etc. Plus I googled him and it says he owns the Moon and can fly in outer space. This guy is clearly the strongest and will be Luffy's end boss.
Now you're trying too hard dude, troll another thread plz.
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Olli
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We had to end up back here
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On August 12 2013 14:35 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:19 Serejai wrote:On August 12 2013 09:22 agahamsorr0w wrote:On August 12 2013 09:19 Serejai wrote:
Could someone explain who this Enel fellow is to me? I see him talked about all the time but I don't remember seeing him in the anime. Was he in a filler arc that I skipped? skipea arc. hes the end boss of that arc with the electricity devil fruit. he can basically hit you with 100k volt if he wants to. Wow... that sounds really strong. So Enel is the strongest person in One Piece? I mean, electricity is faster than all other elements, is hotter than fire, can probably short circuit Franky, can melt steel (like Zoros swords), etc. Plus I googled him and it says he owns the Moon and can fly in outer space. This guy is clearly the strongest and will be Luffy's end boss. No, Light (Kizarus fruit) is faster than Electricity and works pretty much like the lightning fruit except better ini every way. Enels attacks only work on elements that circuit electricity, meaning Luffy is Immune and probably a dozen of logia users too.
How did I know you would fall for the troll.
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On August 12 2013 13:34 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:17 Forikorder wrote:On August 12 2013 13:11 sc2holar wrote:On August 12 2013 12:09 Hyperbola wrote:On August 12 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote:On August 12 2013 11:49 GettingIt wrote:On August 12 2013 11:36 sc2holar wrote:On August 12 2013 09:57 Shinokuki wrote:
I really don't understand people like you. Let's end this debate once and for all. In terms of fighting level( not political power or alliances), Mihawk is same level as admiral and yonkous. How do you know that? if he was that strong he could have soloed whitebeard during marineford... Mihawk could never be yonkou level because he doesnt have a crew, and being a yonkou comes from having a big ass powerful crew. He meant yonkou level in terms of individual strength. And maybe he could have soloed Whitebeard if he wasn't too busy fending off Vista and Diamond Jozu. what is your definition of "strongest man in the world" cause that was whitebeards title noone could solo whitebeard I think he means most powerful. I also happen to think that Whitebeard is the strongest in terms of muscle strength as well since his Gura Gura basically relies on him punching the air really hard. I also think his earthquake punch is on par with that King's super punch in the tournament. But power is really situational. We've seen many interesting counters and match ups between people who are supposedly different "power ranks". Notable examples are Mr. 3 and Magellan as well as Luffy and Enel. But also there's Blackbeard and Bartholomew who can both absorb powers (earthquake punch and king punch, respectively). There isn't necessarily a Yonku level in the same way there isn't a Schichibukai level. Characters like Moria and Buggy are relatively weak Schichibukai while characters like Mihawk and Kuma are downright crazy strong. Even if Mihawk is the best swordsman in the world, there's no telling how his ability will match up to Whitebeard. They both are very experienced and have been in countless battles. Both have substantial Haki and can both cause fancy explosions. But maybe Whitebeard has too good of a defense for Mihawk to hit him or maybe Mihawk is just so fast that he can dance circles around Whitebeard. With our current understanding of things, we just don't know who would win. Dont forget Doflamingo and Jimbei, they are crazy strong aswell. But in a fight against Blackbeard i would probably pick Jimbei and Mihawk since they are non-DF users. Blackbeards fruit isnt more effective against DF users, wether your a fruit user or not hell still try to pull you in, grab hld and smack you around fruit users would fare better against him (as lkong as they can do long range combat though the Quake fruit handles that weakness) Vortex has the potential to Disable DF fruit powers, and DF fruit users arent used to fighting without their abilities. of course its more effective against DF users. I would not use it against Mihawk though since you really dont want to be in melee range of that guy.
but it only disables abilities at 0 range while hes touching you so if hes right there next to you within touch range its not that easy to use your ability anyway, pretty much any haki user could grapple a DF user and smack em around
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On August 12 2013 14:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 13:34 sc2holar wrote:On August 12 2013 13:17 Forikorder wrote:On August 12 2013 13:11 sc2holar wrote:On August 12 2013 12:09 Hyperbola wrote:On August 12 2013 11:52 Forikorder wrote:On August 12 2013 11:49 GettingIt wrote:On August 12 2013 11:36 sc2holar wrote:On August 12 2013 09:57 Shinokuki wrote:
I really don't understand people like you. Let's end this debate once and for all. In terms of fighting level( not political power or alliances), Mihawk is same level as admiral and yonkous. How do you know that? if he was that strong he could have soloed whitebeard during marineford... Mihawk could never be yonkou level because he doesnt have a crew, and being a yonkou comes from having a big ass powerful crew. He meant yonkou level in terms of individual strength. And maybe he could have soloed Whitebeard if he wasn't too busy fending off Vista and Diamond Jozu. what is your definition of "strongest man in the world" cause that was whitebeards title noone could solo whitebeard I think he means most powerful. I also happen to think that Whitebeard is the strongest in terms of muscle strength as well since his Gura Gura basically relies on him punching the air really hard. I also think his earthquake punch is on par with that King's super punch in the tournament. But power is really situational. We've seen many interesting counters and match ups between people who are supposedly different "power ranks". Notable examples are Mr. 3 and Magellan as well as Luffy and Enel. But also there's Blackbeard and Bartholomew who can both absorb powers (earthquake punch and king punch, respectively). There isn't necessarily a Yonku level in the same way there isn't a Schichibukai level. Characters like Moria and Buggy are relatively weak Schichibukai while characters like Mihawk and Kuma are downright crazy strong. Even if Mihawk is the best swordsman in the world, there's no telling how his ability will match up to Whitebeard. They both are very experienced and have been in countless battles. Both have substantial Haki and can both cause fancy explosions. But maybe Whitebeard has too good of a defense for Mihawk to hit him or maybe Mihawk is just so fast that he can dance circles around Whitebeard. With our current understanding of things, we just don't know who would win. Dont forget Doflamingo and Jimbei, they are crazy strong aswell. But in a fight against Blackbeard i would probably pick Jimbei and Mihawk since they are non-DF users. Blackbeards fruit isnt more effective against DF users, wether your a fruit user or not hell still try to pull you in, grab hld and smack you around fruit users would fare better against him (as lkong as they can do long range combat though the Quake fruit handles that weakness) Vortex has the potential to Disable DF fruit powers, and DF fruit users arent used to fighting without their abilities. of course its more effective against DF users. I would not use it against Mihawk though since you really dont want to be in melee range of that guy. but it only disables abilities at 0 range while hes touching you so if hes right there next to you within touch range its not that easy to use your ability anyway, pretty much any haki user could grapple a DF user and smack em around
Exactly, just see his fight vs Ace. Ace was able to use his powers just had to not get into direct contact with BB.
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On August 12 2013 14:41 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:35 sc2holar wrote:On August 12 2013 14:19 Serejai wrote:On August 12 2013 09:22 agahamsorr0w wrote:On August 12 2013 09:19 Serejai wrote:
Could someone explain who this Enel fellow is to me? I see him talked about all the time but I don't remember seeing him in the anime. Was he in a filler arc that I skipped? skipea arc. hes the end boss of that arc with the electricity devil fruit. he can basically hit you with 100k volt if he wants to. Wow... that sounds really strong. So Enel is the strongest person in One Piece? I mean, electricity is faster than all other elements, is hotter than fire, can probably short circuit Franky, can melt steel (like Zoros swords), etc. Plus I googled him and it says he owns the Moon and can fly in outer space. This guy is clearly the strongest and will be Luffy's end boss. No, Light (Kizarus fruit) is faster than Electricity and works pretty much like the lightning fruit except better ini every way. Enels attacks only work on elements that circuit electricity, meaning Luffy is Immune and probably a dozen of logia users too. How did I know you would fall for the troll.
Who are you and are you stalking me or something?
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On August 12 2013 15:59 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 14:41 Mataza wrote:On August 12 2013 14:35 sc2holar wrote:On August 12 2013 14:19 Serejai wrote:On August 12 2013 09:22 agahamsorr0w wrote:On August 12 2013 09:19 Serejai wrote:
Could someone explain who this Enel fellow is to me? I see him talked about all the time but I don't remember seeing him in the anime. Was he in a filler arc that I skipped? skipea arc. hes the end boss of that arc with the electricity devil fruit. he can basically hit you with 100k volt if he wants to. Wow... that sounds really strong. So Enel is the strongest person in One Piece? I mean, electricity is faster than all other elements, is hotter than fire, can probably short circuit Franky, can melt steel (like Zoros swords), etc. Plus I googled him and it says he owns the Moon and can fly in outer space. This guy is clearly the strongest and will be Luffy's end boss. No, Light (Kizarus fruit) is faster than Electricity and works pretty much like the lightning fruit except better ini every way. Enels attacks only work on elements that circuit electricity, meaning Luffy is Immune and probably a dozen of logia users too. How did I know you would fall for the troll. Who are you and are you stalking me or something?
I read this thread and occasionaly post in it. I think I don't engage often in arguments with you, so I'm not surprised you don't recognize me.
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On August 12 2013 11:36 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 09:57 Shinokuki wrote:
I really don't understand people like you. Let's end this debate once and for all. In terms of fighting level( not political power or alliances), Mihawk is same level as admiral and yonkous. How do you know that? if he was that strong he could have soloed whitebeard during marineford... Mihawk could never be yonkou level because he doesnt have a crew, and being a yonkou comes from having a big ass powerful crew.
A powerful crew but also a powerful relations. Look at Luffy with allies left and right. That's what Mihawk himself said was the most dangerous ability, that's why Whitebeard was so powerful. He had a kick-ass crew and kick-ass allies.
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Whitebeard was the Strongest man in the World by a large margin. He Fodderized everyone he came across in that war. Yes he has a large crew with some very notable low admiral level (Marco imo is Admiral/Yonkou level) people in but his strength alone was the reason he was given that title. Mihawk undoubtly is very strong but he has had no relevance to any arcs yet so we haven't had anything of his to look at.
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Mihawk is like a natural disaster, it will not change the face of the world, but when you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, you're screwed.
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SBS Volume 71 is out:
Q: This might be out of nowhere, but who in the Straw Hat Pirates can use Haki? It's bothering me and I can't activate my "Love Hurricane".
Oda: It's these three. Their specialty haki color is in the parentheses. Luffy (Haoshoku Haki), Zoro (Busoshoku Haki), Sanji (Kenbunshoku Haki)
Q: What's the name of Law's sword? How many tattoos does Law-san have? Odacchi... please draw all of Law's tattoos!!!! (≧□≦)
Oda: OK, got it! Here are the drawing of Law's tattoos taken from my notes. → He has heart themed tattoos, but I wonder if there is a reason for that? The name of his sword is Kikoku (鬼哭 Kikoku?, literally meaning "Demon's Cry"). It has no rank. It is a "cursed sword".
Q: In Chapter 700 there is a reporter named "Absa", that's referring to Absalom right? Right? And if you look closely, there's even the pirate ship. What other kinds of eroti... amazing articles... What other kinds of eroti... I mean, moving articles... What other kinds of erotic articles does he write? P.N. Makino♡LOVE
Oda: Yes, that is Absalom. How nostalgic. In fact, he was also at the Battle of Marineford. After the battle, Doflamingo stated that something strange happened to Moriah. I wonder why? Perona is also worried. Did Moriah really die? The only thing that I can reveal right now is Absalom, going by the name "Absa", has been reporting a lot of big news using his Suke Suke no Mi; this is true. He can take many interesting photographs with that ability. His articles are very popular right now.
i love oda sensei 
you can read other Q&A here: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_71
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what are the names of the haki in english? is kenbunshoku observation?
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yeah according to Oda
Zoro>Armament
Sanji>Observation
Glad speculations that the reporter is absalom and Moria "disappeared" was his invis fruit, turned out to be true although at least least the former was pretty obvious that's why Oda just confirmed it like this, I think.
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On August 13 2013 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
yeah according to Oda
Zoro>Armament
Sanji>Observation
Glad speculations that the reporter is absalom and Moria "disappeared" was his invis fruit, turned out to be true although at least least the former was pretty obvious that's why Oda just confirmed it like this, I think.
okay thanks
at least now we wont have to ahve anyone argue if Zoro has Haki or not anymore
TBH though i assumed when Moria disapeared he just had his shadow run away and switched with it
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On August 13 2013 02:12 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2013 02:05 AsnSensation wrote:
yeah according to Oda
Zoro>Armament
Sanji>Observation
Glad speculations that the reporter is absalom and Moria "disappeared" was his invis fruit, turned out to be true although at least least the former was pretty obvious that's why Oda just confirmed it like this, I think. okay thanks at least now we wont have to ahve anyone argue if Zoro has Haki or not anymore TBH though i assumed when Moria disapeared he just had his shadow run away and switched with it
Does Zoro have Conqueror's Haki though? I think he does.
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From Volume 59:
Q: About the Whitebeard Pirates, if there are pirates from the "Whitebeard ally groups", is there a possibility of one of them becoming a commander of the real Whitebeard Pirates itself? Or are the commanders all from the real Whitebeard Pirates from the beginning? P.N. amanuts
Oda: Ok, I'll explain a little about the Whitebeard Pirates. First, captain Whitebeard and the 16 commanders. All 16 commanders, despite numbers and ages have the same rank. All the same. Whitebeard Pirates are just split in 16 groups and the division number does not indicate strength. The 43 ally pirate ships are not any part of the Whitebeard Pirates and are usually all just scattered everywhere living their own little lives. Yet they are loyal to Whitebeard, and help him in desperate times. They are like that. In Ace's case, the Spade Pirates were destroyed, and all the members joined the Whitebeard Pirates, so he was able to become a commander.
Well thats interesting. I thought Marco was 1st commander because he was strongest after WB.  At least we can understand that Burgess isnt the second strongest in blackbeards crew.
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On August 11 2013 22:57 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 22:18 Prog455 wrote:On August 11 2013 21:41 sc2holar wrote:
Stop talking about fucking Enel Lol dude - you started the discussion regarding the strongest Devil Fruit. How on earth did you imagine such a discussion NOT end up with people talking about Enel - owner of the arguably most OP devil fruit. How is the Goro Goro no Mi stronger than the Yami Yami no mi or the Pika Pika no Mi? Enels DF and Kizarus DF are kinda like Ace and Akainu. similiar elements, but Kizaru/Akainus element is simply stronger. Again, LOADS of people have Logia/paramecia Devil Fruits with elements that would be immune to lightning.
The fact that Enel can merge with anything that conducts electricity is a pretty big thing. This basicly means that if he is fighting on a ship, you have to destroy the ship in order to kill him. With Water being deadly to DF users i could imagine this being a pretty big problem, aside from the obvious fact that nobody wants to destroy their ship. Furthermore his DF can jumpstart his heart. The thing about this DF is that it has other benefits than the element alone.
Also please name 5 known DF's that would be immune to lightning, aside from Luffys.
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Yes, that is Absalom. How nostalgic. In fact, he was also at the Battle of Marineford. After the battle, Doflamingo stated that something strange happened to Moriah. I wonder why? Perona is also worried. Did Moriah really die?
Oh shit! Absolm saved Moria! Moria powerup incoming! Maybe he'll pull a crocodile and help the Straw Hats?
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Olli
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On August 13 2013 03:10 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 22:57 sc2holar wrote:On August 11 2013 22:18 Prog455 wrote:On August 11 2013 21:41 sc2holar wrote:
Stop talking about fucking Enel Lol dude - you started the discussion regarding the strongest Devil Fruit. How on earth did you imagine such a discussion NOT end up with people talking about Enel - owner of the arguably most OP devil fruit. How is the Goro Goro no Mi stronger than the Yami Yami no mi or the Pika Pika no Mi? Enels DF and Kizarus DF are kinda like Ace and Akainu. similiar elements, but Kizaru/Akainus element is simply stronger. Again, LOADS of people have Logia/paramecia Devil Fruits with elements that would be immune to lightning. The fact that Enel can merge with anything that conducts electricity is a pretty big thing. This basicly means that if he is fighting on a ship, you have to destroy the ship in order to kill him. With Water being deadly to DF users i could imagine this being a pretty big problem, aside from the obvious fact that nobody wants to destroy their ship. Furthermore his DF can jumpstart his heart. The thing about this DF is that it has other benefits than the element alone. Also please name 5 known DF's that would be immune to lightning, aside from Luffys.
Please don't
not Enel again
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