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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 30 2013 16:06 GMT
#8821
On July 30 2013 21:00 Big-t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 20:06 Sableyeah wrote:
Forikorder! For once, I agree! woohoo

You know what they say about successful man, there is always a powerful woman behind them. :p


Exactly, I´m pretty sure we will see Luffys mum at some point. I bet Garp doesn´t like her XD

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:38 Forikorder wrote:
your forgotting that Caesor was using the wrong name, if the WG finds out taht Dofla is Joker he loses his title


Wait, WG does not know that Dofla and Joker are the same person? I feal like more people know him as joker then people know him as Dofla...

CP0 probably know, but there keeping it quiet from the Navy so Fuji doesnt know
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 21:05:19
July 30 2013 20:59 GMT
#8822
Im interested to see other people's views on Shank's future in One Piece. What do people think his part will be in the story and Luffy's future? I personally see him as a dead man walking and Luffy will return his hat to Shanks grave so that he keeps his promise once becoming the Pirate king. I've read some interesting theories around but what do people in this thread think?

Also, what do people think of buggy. I know its funny to make jokes about buggy's strength and what position he will hold EoS but is he really weak or does he just fear the consequences of being part of rogers crew, or does he not want to die?
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 21:43:12
July 30 2013 21:39 GMT
#8823
Oda commented that Buggy could be one of the strongest pirates if he just trained, but he doesnt really care for becoming the pirate king or his reputation, he mostly wants to become rich and live comfortably. i dont think he has the haki.

My theory is that shanks will be killed by eustass kidd. We know he and his alliance is going after a yonko, and they are building up a fierce rivalry between him and luffy. either kidd or blackbeard.
you no take candle
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 30 2013 21:52 GMT
#8824
I would be highly disappointed if Shanks somehow lost to Kidd. That said, it would give Luffy and Usopp a monster reason to go after Kidd. Sometimes I feel that Kidd is actually the final boss and not Blackbeard, but it's hard to say.

The theory of Luffy giving back his Straw Hat to Shanks after he died really sucks imo, but it could be possible. I'm awaiting their true reunion with impatience.
maru lover forever
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 30 2013 22:13 GMT
#8825
I couldn't wait for the post timeskip episode with kidd but by god did they ruin him. In the manga he looked badass as fuck but in the anime he looks shit.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
July 30 2013 22:22 GMT
#8826
i dont see doflamingo dying in the dressrosa arc. they have been building him up for too long (he is probably the villain who has been around for the longest time in the series) to just have him dissapear like some vander decken character. if Oda could spare moria (twice) i dont see doflamingo dissapearing from the series completley anytimes soon.
you no take candle
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 30 2013 22:24 GMT
#8827
That doesn't mean he can't get his ass kicked; look at Crocodile.
maru lover forever
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 22:35:03
July 30 2013 22:31 GMT
#8828
I think he will live and possibly play a role in the story further down the road, but i can really picture luffy beating him and break his teeth with his knockout punch. it would be kinda symbolic to shatter his trademark smile (wich is the symbol of both his demonic pride and his pirate flag, basicly) along with destroying his "SMILE" factory. Wouldnt that be kinda cool?
you no take candle
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 30 2013 22:38 GMT
#8829
On July 31 2013 07:31 sc2holar wrote:
I think he will live and possibly play a role in the story further down the road, but i can really picture luffy beating him and break his teeth with his knockout punch. it would be kinda symbolic to shatter his trademark smile (wich is the symbol of his demonic pride, basicly) along with destroying his "SMILE" factory. Wouldnt that be kinda cool?

Is luffy really at the level where he can defeat someone who trolled his way through the War of the best and Akojji without even his glasses being moved though? Personally i doubt that highly. I don't see DD being beaten this arc unless maybe him vs Fuji happens. From what we have seen DD is ridiculously far above law who appears to be = to if not slightly > luffy.
i am plus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States190 Posts
July 30 2013 22:48 GMT
#8830
law + luffy are perfect counter to DD
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 23:04:09
July 30 2013 22:55 GMT
#8831
On July 31 2013 07:48 i am plus wrote:
law + luffy are perfect counter to DD

Care to elaborate? im not saying they cant beat him, but on paper i would like to think of doffys DF ability as the ultimate counter to luffy. luffys weakness is piercing/cutting damage so those haki strings should be really dangerous, and since luffy is a purely physical based fighter he makes for the perfect puppet, allowing doflamingo to basicly take advantage of the gomu gomu no mi to the fullest and use him against law.

of course any 2on1 among strong pirates is gonna look favorable, but luffy is probably the last pirate i would put in a matchup against doflamingo...

again, care to explain why law+luffy is somehow the logically "perfect" counter to doflamingo? none of their DFs really counter doflamingos DF (in luffys case its pretty much the other way around) if anyone, i would say buggy or any logia user with strong haki has the best DF against someone who can cut through anything and use strings to control someones boddy like a puppet...
you no take candle
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 30 2013 23:04 GMT
#8832
I don't know if im overestimating or wanking off DD but I doubt if even of you put all the Alliance members on Dressrosa vs DD, I think they would still lose. DD just sees too much unless there is a conveniently HUGE problem with his power.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 23:09:26
July 30 2013 23:07 GMT
#8833
DDs DF has a major weakness: it has terrible synergy with augment haki, since it makes his strings become visible (like when he fought smoker). They are much harder to dodge when not combined with haki, since theyre normally invisible.

I think its the first DF power we have seen that actually gains somewhat of a drawback when combined with AH?
you no take candle
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
July 30 2013 23:18 GMT
#8834
On July 31 2013 08:07 sc2holar wrote:
DDs DF has a major weakness: it has terrible synergy with augment haki, since it makes his strings become visible (like when he fought smoker). They are much harder to dodge when not combined with haki, since theyre normally invisible.

Is that really a weakness though? Its only been Post timeskip that we have been alerted to the fact that this type of Haki has been available, and it seems highly unlikely that nearly every notable member during the marineford war would not have Haki in use Full time imo. Also considering vs Logia feats pre Timeskip I don't think its possible to concern whether or not Augment haki is in use given the illustrations and reactions we have been given, though Haki is a new concept to be delved into from the readers preception. I highly doubt the illustration of the "black Haki" has any effect on whether or not the character can discern if armament haki is in use or not.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
July 30 2013 23:20 GMT
#8835
good point, it might be purely metaphysical to make it easier on the readers part.
you no take candle
i am plus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 00:28:03
July 31 2013 00:26 GMT
#8836
Law can use room around luffy, keep him together + his haki, then luffy can deal massive dmg to dd


and u notice in the war he had to stand on jozu back to accually control him
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 00:48:16
July 31 2013 00:38 GMT
#8837
On July 31 2013 09:26 i am plus wrote:



and u notice in the war he had to stand on jozu back to accually control him

No, you completley misenterpret that scene. he was riding on his back for fun, to be able to talk to crocodile face to face. its kind of a running gag with doflamingo that he loves to pose in wierd places (sitting on the table during a meeting with the gouvernment, sitting on a windowshelf, sitting on top of a bunch of corpses in the middle of a battlefield, sitting on top of smoker in a wierd pose).

when he was controlling bellamy and his subortinate at the same time he did not have to ride anyone, the same goes for the first time we see him when he makes two marines fight each others with their swords. If you want to talk about marineford, why not bring up when he controlled Atmos from a distance and made him kill his entire squad while making a grand speech and doing wierd poses. he does NOT have to be above someone in order to control them. That was a one time thing.
you no take candle
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
July 31 2013 00:56 GMT
#8838
On July 31 2013 07:13 shark. wrote:
I couldn't wait for the post timeskip episode with kidd but by god did they ruin him. In the manga he looked badass as fuck but in the anime he looks shit.

Everything's better in the manga, so it's to be expected.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 31 2013 03:36 GMT
#8839
On July 31 2013 08:07 sc2holar wrote:
DDs DF has a major weakness: it has terrible synergy with augment haki, since it makes his strings become visible (like when he fought smoker). They are much harder to dodge when not combined with haki, since theyre normally invisible.

I think its the first DF power we have seen that actually gains somewhat of a drawback when combined with AH?


im like 99.99% certain the black is jsut art and nothing actually changes colour when it gets haki in it
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
July 31 2013 03:39 GMT
#8840
On July 31 2013 12:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 08:07 sc2holar wrote:
DDs DF has a major weakness: it has terrible synergy with augment haki, since it makes his strings become visible (like when he fought smoker). They are much harder to dodge when not combined with haki, since theyre normally invisible.

I think its the first DF power we have seen that actually gains somewhat of a drawback when combined with AH?


im like 99.99% certain the black is jsut art and nothing actually changes colour when it gets haki in it


I agree. It's just Oda's way of showing us someone is using haki or someone using whose really good at haki etc.
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