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On July 31 2013 16:09 Big-t wrote:
When Din Qinjiao and Luffy are punching their haki covered fists against each other, someone says "A clash of conquerers haki". Did really both of them use CH or is it a translation mistake and it should be "A clash of armament haki".
Since they are the only one left int he ring we don´t see any collapsing people. But both chars have some strange presence around them, so it could be still right.
This isn't true, if you look at the last page, in the large panel on the right side people are still standing as the hit connects. The panel with the fish and fighters in the water and the one below clearly shows people are affected (passing out) from the haki - you can see two are mid air falling into the water. Don't know why the audience aren't, but it might be that the range is too great..
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It's Oda we are talking about. We'll see some of these "filler fighters" later for sure.
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On July 31 2013 18:49 Souma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 20:06 Sableyeah wrote:
Forikorder! For once, I agree! woohoo
You know what they say about successful man, there is always a powerful woman behind them. :p I dunno, I think Luffy's mom is dead. I don't think Dragon is out there fighting the world government just because. Luffy's mom might have been caught up in some conspiracy and that's why Dragon is out there inciting a revolution.
Pretty sure Oda has stated that he has drawn Luffy's mom and she is very well alive.
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On July 31 2013 18:54 Lysteria wrote:
It's Oda we are talking about. We'll see some of these "filler fighters" later for sure.
The weapon guy is gonna try to steal zoro's swords for sure
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On July 31 2013 19:01 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 18:49 Souma wrote:On July 30 2013 20:06 Sableyeah wrote:
Forikorder! For once, I agree! woohoo
You know what they say about successful man, there is always a powerful woman behind them. :p I dunno, I think Luffy's mom is dead. I don't think Dragon is out there fighting the world government just because. Luffy's mom might have been caught up in some conspiracy and that's why Dragon is out there inciting a revolution. Pretty sure Oda has stated that he has drawn Luffy's mom and she is very well alive.
May have drawn her for an eventual flashback though
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I agree somewhat with whoever said there was no real plot progression in this chapter, but at the same time I think Oda's doing a very efficient job of showing the extent of Luffy's current strength (the comparison to Bleach is accurate). Besides, as others have pointed out the tournament is an important part of the arc, as evidenced by the multitude of newly introduced characters who still have important roles to play.
As for the interpretation of the "Conquerour's Haki" statement, I think we need to wait for a more reliable translation before we can say anything for sure, but it seems to me that the slight pause between "[a] clash of" and "Conqueror's Haki" (indicated by the dots) implies that Diamante made an observation about the actual collision and had to recollect his thoughts for a split second (it's not every day you see two people use CH simultaneously, after all). If he were making a general statement about both of them possessing CH, I think he would've just said the sentence without a pause in-between.
Anyway, pretty good chapter imo. Not 10/10 or anything, but a solid build-up for future events.
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On July 31 2013 19:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 19:01 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:On July 31 2013 18:49 Souma wrote:On July 30 2013 20:06 Sableyeah wrote:
Forikorder! For once, I agree! woohoo
You know what they say about successful man, there is always a powerful woman behind them. :p I dunno, I think Luffy's mom is dead. I don't think Dragon is out there fighting the world government just because. Luffy's mom might have been caught up in some conspiracy and that's why Dragon is out there inciting a revolution. Pretty sure Oda has stated that he has drawn Luffy's mom and she is very well alive. May have drawn her for an eventual flashback though
Perhaps, but he did say he has drawn her besides Dragon and other revolutionaries, however, when I take a glance at said images, the only characters that stand out are either Dragon or Ivankov so I really don't know which is correct.
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Oh man guys I just remembered that a new devil Fruit was presented. Jake Jake fruit, the ability to control everything which wears you O.o
Wouldn´t it be funny to control a DF user? And what would happen if someone uses haki when he tries to cover you (like he already covered your legs but then someone uses AH and he cant continue O.o)
Really funny and innovative DF power imo
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I don't think we'll hear much more of that fruit ;D
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Don QJ says garp steals his power,
What power? The navy power?
Or..his.. power?? I mean. Ability, devil fruit.. Not sure...
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On July 31 2013 19:28 Big-t wrote:
Oh man guys I just remembered that a new devil Fruit was presented. Jake Jake fruit, the ability to control everything which wears you O.o
Wouldn´t it be funny to control a DF user? And what would happen if someone uses haki when he tries to cover you (like he already covered your legs but then someone uses AH and he cant continue O.o)
Really funny and innovative DF power imo
the same what happened to boo when he ate vegeto
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On July 31 2013 19:55 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Don QJ says garp steals his power,
What power? The navy power?
Or..his.. power?? I mean. Ability, devil fruit.. Not sure...
I'm thinking it's power as in social power. Like he may have been a captain of a ship, and Garp destroyed his reputation and captured the crew.
Again, interested to see if any of these filler characters are a thing. I totally expect the country of Sai and the bounty hunter to feature somehow. There's no way this upcoming fight will just be a "Oh that was cool, now let's forget that strong guy" because that never happens. Bounty Hunter guy mentioned knowing the whereabouts of level 6 criminals, we'll see him again at least for that.
Exploding fists, the giant and jake jake I dunno, but at the very least they might be interesting cameos or something. For all we know Law recruits mr explodey fists at the end. And the jake jake ends up wearing the admiral or some shizz.
No-one knows. Welcome to One Piece.
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I really don't care about the story. I want to see more of this tournament! Because it looks awesome. :D
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On July 31 2013 20:24 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 19:55 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Don QJ says garp steals his power,
What power? The navy power?
Or..his.. power?? I mean. Ability, devil fruit.. Not sure... I'm thinking it's power as in social power. Like he may have been a captain of a ship, and Garp destroyed his reputation and captured the crew. Again, interested to see if any of these filler characters are a thing. I totally expect the country of Sai and the bounty hunter to feature somehow. There's no way this upcoming fight will just be a "Oh that was cool, now let's forget that strong guy" because that never happens. Bounty Hunter guy mentioned knowing the whereabouts of level 6 criminals, we'll see him again at least for that. Exploding fists, the giant and jake jake I dunno, but at the very least they might be interesting cameos or something. For all we know Law recruits mr explodey fists at the end. And the jake jake ends up wearing the admiral or some shizz. No-one knows. Welcome to One Piece.
How right you are, the author always has a way to bring back shit that seem like to matter very little to being something that matter alot. Hence when Haki was first introduce in Sky Island and then we finally get an explanation of it during the Amazonian arc. Hell everything that Sky Island related always seem to come back and bite us when we thought all has been learnt from it, also hence that dude with the weird head great great great grand father helping out those gnome a long time ago so now Upsopp is able to manipulate them because of it.
Hell, i wouldnt be surprise that sea monster that ate shanks arm came back and reveal that he was the master mind behind guarding the One Piece treasure.
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On July 31 2013 20:43 Roggay wrote:
I really don't care about the story. I want to see more of this tournament! Because it looks awesome. :D
Yeah pretty much this, I was always a sucker for tournaments and it had to happen in One Piece at some point since Oda is a Dragonball fanboy. I really just want to see Luffy fight and show of his new powers against epic opponents :D.
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On July 31 2013 20:44 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 20:24 bittman wrote:On July 31 2013 19:55 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Don QJ says garp steals his power,
What power? The navy power?
Or..his.. power?? I mean. Ability, devil fruit.. Not sure... I'm thinking it's power as in social power. Like he may have been a captain of a ship, and Garp destroyed his reputation and captured the crew. Again, interested to see if any of these filler characters are a thing. I totally expect the country of Sai and the bounty hunter to feature somehow. There's no way this upcoming fight will just be a "Oh that was cool, now let's forget that strong guy" because that never happens. Bounty Hunter guy mentioned knowing the whereabouts of level 6 criminals, we'll see him again at least for that. Exploding fists, the giant and jake jake I dunno, but at the very least they might be interesting cameos or something. For all we know Law recruits mr explodey fists at the end. And the jake jake ends up wearing the admiral or some shizz. No-one knows. Welcome to One Piece. How right you are, the author always has a way to bring back shit that seem like to matter very little to being something that matter alot. Hence when Haki was first introduce in Sky Island and then we finally get an explanation of it during the Amazonian arc. Hell everything that Sky Island related always seem to come back and bite us when we thought all has been learnt from it, also hence that dude with the weird head great great great grand father helping out those gnome a long time ago so now Upsopp is able to manipulate them because of it. Hell, i wouldnt be surprise that sea monster that ate shanks arm came back and reveal that he was the master mind behind guarding the One Piece treasure.
Hahaha, I love that idea. Probably more than I should.
I can imagine a fan one day interviewing Oda:
"You know it doesn't really make sense that Shanks, a Yonkou who is powerful enough to block Akainu's lava fist where many had previously failed, would lose an arm so easily to some weak sea eel monster thing."
Oda: "Of course it doesn't...yet..."
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On July 31 2013 18:07 shark. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 17:57 SenorChang wrote:
i bet the guy has a grudge against garp over something like garp stealing the woman he loved Maybe Garp beat his word record for "the most amount of doughnuts eaten without any sleep".
If I weren't cheap I think i would gift you TL+ for that post.
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On July 31 2013 19:01 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 18:49 Souma wrote:On July 30 2013 20:06 Sableyeah wrote:
Forikorder! For once, I agree! woohoo
You know what they say about successful man, there is always a powerful woman behind them. :p I dunno, I think Luffy's mom is dead. I don't think Dragon is out there fighting the world government just because. Luffy's mom might have been caught up in some conspiracy and that's why Dragon is out there inciting a revolution. Pretty sure Oda has stated that he has drawn Luffy's mom and she is very well alive.
source?
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On July 31 2013 20:50 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2013 20:43 Roggay wrote:
I really don't care about the story. I want to see more of this tournament! Because it looks awesome. :D Yeah pretty much this, I was always a sucker for tournaments and it had to happen in One Piece at some point since Oda is a Dragonball fanboy. I really just want to see Luffy fight and show of his new powers against epic opponents :D.
Pretty much in the same boat as you guys. I was doubtful at first because I thought it would just be a random succession of Bleach-like meaningless duels, but this all-out brawl tournament thing is fucking enjoyable to read as a matter of fact :D
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So Diamante knows that Lucy is Luffy, that's why he made the statement "clash of conq. Haki". When I read your comments earlier today before reading the chapter I thought it was a caption.
The blow itself was only clash of Armament Haki.
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At the end of the previous chapter there were 40 people still standing.
It's unlikely that 36 of them are taken out in the time between funk brothers merging and Luffy & Don fistbumping.
If Luffy and Don are the last two ones standing, it makes sense that their combined (and controlled to just affect the arena area and not the audience) Conquerer's Haki took the rest (the majority,if not all, unnamed) out. It could explain the "clash of Conq Haki" thing. If that's not the case and they only were 4 left, then it's just becaue the person saying it knows they both have the ability.
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