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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 10:03:54
April 20 2013 10:02 GMT
#7221
Hehe we had this discussion awhile ago, and I think its soooo funny how forik always gets on his horse whenever we talk about it.
Imo the theory makes a lot of sense, and even tho I already read it, I would be so fucking impressed if this was Oda's plan all along. I mean, the key hint is basically in the freaking title aka he had this idea from the start. The patience he has to have to tell his story must be enormous. Compare that to a 'Naruto' or a 'Bleach' where the title doesnt nearly seems to hold as much meaning...
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
April 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#7222
Oda once said in an interview that the last chapter of one piece will make marineford look like nothing. This pretty much already hints that a big war will come...
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 20 2013 11:40 GMT
#7223
On April 20 2013 20:31 Dekker wrote:
Oda once said in an interview that the last chapter of one piece will make marineford look like nothing. This pretty much already hints that a big war will come...

Honestly....I kinda hated marineford. Took way too long to resolve any issues and didn't get interesting until the end when BB showed up. And then the flashback arc...ugh.
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Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
April 20 2013 14:17 GMT
#7224
On April 20 2013 20:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 20:31 Dekker wrote:
Oda once said in an interview that the last chapter of one piece will make marineford look like nothing. This pretty much already hints that a big war will come...

Honestly....I kinda hated marineford. Took way too long to resolve any issues and didn't get interesting until the end when BB showed up. And then the flashback arc...ugh.

marineford was pretty awesome if you didn't have to wait a week for every chapter .
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 20 2013 15:15 GMT
#7225
On April 20 2013 23:17 Tabbris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 20:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 20 2013 20:31 Dekker wrote:
Oda once said in an interview that the last chapter of one piece will make marineford look like nothing. This pretty much already hints that a big war will come...

Honestly....I kinda hated marineford. Took way too long to resolve any issues and didn't get interesting until the end when BB showed up. And then the flashback arc...ugh.

marineford was pretty awesome if you didn't have to wait a week for every chapter .

Yup, I enjoyed that arc alot

I imagine the flashback arc was annoying though, unless Sabo is saved secretly there wasn't that much point to it other than knowing Luffys story
In the woods, there lurks..
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
April 20 2013 15:25 GMT
#7226
On April 21 2013 00:15 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 23:17 Tabbris wrote:
On April 20 2013 20:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 20 2013 20:31 Dekker wrote:
Oda once said in an interview that the last chapter of one piece will make marineford look like nothing. This pretty much already hints that a big war will come...

Honestly....I kinda hated marineford. Took way too long to resolve any issues and didn't get interesting until the end when BB showed up. And then the flashback arc...ugh.

marineford was pretty awesome if you didn't have to wait a week for every chapter .

Yup, I enjoyed that arc alot

I imagine the flashback arc was annoying though, unless Sabo is saved secretly there wasn't that much point to it other than knowing Luffys story

Sabo being alive would have to be the safe bet
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 15:56:35
April 20 2013 15:51 GMT
#7227
On April 20 2013 08:06 SecondManRex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 06:39 flamewheel wrote:
since the topic of 'what one piece is' has brought back up again

http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=38205&p=2812288#post2812288

Well, that's certainly thorough in the way which fan speculation tends to be, think I'd be rather disappointed though if the One Piece just becomes another project for Luffy and crew to go on after hitting Raftel. For some reason it just doesn't sit right with me that Roger's treasure would basically be "Good job guys, here's another task for you to go and do for world peace or something." but hey, maybe I'm just silly.


Unless roger's treasure was in fact the fulfillment of Justice in the world of OP. Which could tackle many issues about the moral and social aspects of its inhabitants (eg. Sabo incident). Remember although luffy's a pirate king wannabe, he could also be socially conscious and sympathetic to people; he could very well be the most deserved to be King.

Strong and influential people tend to bear responsibility. The strongest person (in terms of strength, will, sense of justice etc) would have to shoulder everything
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
April 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#7228
@Forikorder
Please get some sense into your arguments. You appear to be almost obsessed with forcing real life science into the OP universe in spite of the fact that every other person you see in OP is able to breath fire or double jump in the air. None of us knows anything about the geography or geological details of OP, so stop trying to use real life science to make sense of things. Also you seem to completely misunderstand Luffy's motives (and Roger's for that matter). I'm pretty sure that i don't speak for myself if i say that One Piece being a big pile of gold would be the biggest let down in the history of manga.

On April 20 2013 15:27 Forikorder wrote:
spending months doing paperwork and working with engineers and geologists to figure out the perfect way to implode a large series of islands in a way that prevents something like say a giant tsunami from wiping out a couple islands is not entertaining its boring like honestly can you even imagine the sheer amount of logistics required to pull this off in a safe way?


Are you fucking kidding me? Tsunami? None of us knows the full extent of Haki, but at this point it seems to be pretty god damn powerful in ways that we have yet to see, and i am sure that it can be used for many other purposes that just fighting. Just look at this video at 8:33


Furthermore we have yet to see the full extent of Kuzans ice powers aswell, but we do know that he can turn a pretty fucking huge area of the sea into ice. He dealt with the huge waves at Marineford and i see no reason why he should not be able to prevent a tsunami if that was the case, even though i find anything you say pretty ridiculous.

On April 20 2013 15:27 Forikorder wrote:
i do not think Luffy will ever actually destroy fishman island (as in it being a chocie he conciously and willingly makes)


You are free to think what you want, but it was hinted pretty heavily that shit is gonna go down on Fishman Island, both by the fact that Sharly has been very accurate in her previous predictions, and by she acted when it turned out that it did not happen at Strawhats first visit to Fishman island.

And for gods sake, there is used to to describe a place and their is used to descibe someones possessions.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
April 20 2013 16:43 GMT
#7229
Speculating that Sabo isn't dead has been going on for a while but other fans say he is dead because the databook says he is dead. Some say the databook are the same thing as Oda saying it while others say it's just a summary of information in the manga. Besides the scene where Dragon is either injured or has brought an injured person onto his ship shortly after he died there is the cover to volume 68 and the SBS question about Sabo which I did not know about.
http://allmangareviews.blogspot.com/2013/02/one-piece-speculation-oda-hinting.html
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 20 2013 16:46 GMT
#7230
Someone saying that Luffy wouldn't have personal motivation for screwing over the tenryuubito (by smashing redline and by that, Mariejoa) really needs to not talk...

also, if the waves Kuzan froze at marineford wasn't a tsunami (taller than the fucking city???) I don't know what would be...
In the woods, there lurks..
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 17:02:14
April 20 2013 17:01 GMT
#7231
On April 20 2013 20:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 20:31 Dekker wrote:
Oda once said in an interview that the last chapter of one piece will make marineford look like nothing. This pretty much already hints that a big war will come...

Honestly....I kinda hated marineford. Took way too long to resolve any issues and didn't get interesting until the end when BB showed up. And then the flashback arc...ugh.


well, sucks for you because the Whitebeard World War broke every possible sales record and then broke it again, so yeah.

not interesting? are you kidding? it was basically a huge brawl with the strongest people in the world, how is that NOT interesting?

Personally I loved it, though it definitely could have been done better. I hope next time Oda puts some more importance on the results of some of the fights, and doesn't have any glaring plotholes (Mr.3...). It was pretty clear that Oda was treading on a new, unfamiliar ground.

Other Shounen mangas that have done a war since then in a bad way:

Bleach (remember the 'war'? what a disaster)
Naruto

Mangas that are ROCKING the War concept:

Toriko
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
April 20 2013 19:58 GMT
#7232
I just started to give One Piece again after trying it a long time ago and not being into it. Now I am hooked and I am wondering if I should also being reading the Manga or if they are very similar and I should just do one or the other.
Never Knows Best.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 20 2013 20:03 GMT
#7233
the priority should always be reading manga and maybe watch anime if you enjoyed the manga it's less timeconsuming and you aren't 1 year behind on discussions, and even as a diehard one piece fan I feel like anime often doesn't do manga justice.

the panels for one piece are so amazing that it actually takes several minutes sometimes to actually realize all the details which is hard if watching it animated imo.
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 20:09:14
April 20 2013 20:07 GMT
#7234
On April 21 2013 04:58 Slaughter wrote:
I just started to give One Piece again after trying it a long time ago and not being into it. Now I am hooked and I am wondering if I should also being reading the Manga or if they are very similar and I should just do one or the other.


My opinion : Ive read the manga first, and after doing that I absolutely couldnt stand watching the anime. Even though its my favourite manga, I think its one of the lesser animes, due to several elements im not going to go into right now.
I like the naruto anime a lot more, and thats saying alot. A while back people were talking about the latest OP film, and I checked it out : I hated it. Just some cliche shit thrown together. Characters sucked balls, fights sucked, and the dialogue... o boy. Perhaps this is partly due to me having too high expectations, but there are way better anime series / movies out there.

From what ive gathered, people seem to like the OP anime, and it's their good right.
But if you are like me, you will enjoy the manga 10 times better, and you'll laugh at yourself for how you could ever put up with such a horrid anime version of such an amazing manga. I would suggest reading the manga first is what im trying to say.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
April 20 2013 20:31 GMT
#7235
the biggest problem with the anime is the countless ammount of filler - in an effort not to catch up to the manga they keep it at a 1 chapter per 1 episode ratio, which utterly destroys the pacing.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
April 20 2013 22:14 GMT
#7236
On April 21 2013 05:31 hooahah wrote:
the biggest problem with the anime is the countless ammount of filler - in an effort not to catch up to the manga they keep it at a 1 chapter per 1 episode ratio, which utterly destroys the pacing.

yea non-filler episodes progress sooooooo slow and they annoyingly stretch it out.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 21 2013 04:11 GMT
#7237
You are free to think what you want, but it was hinted pretty heavily that shit is gonna go down on Fishman Island, both by the fact that Sharly has been very accurate in her previous predictions, and by she acted when it turned out that it did not happen at Strawhats first visit to Fishman island.


im sure something will happen on Fishman island, and its extremely likely that something will be big enough to destroy fishman island (potentially)

im equally sure Luffy will not be responsible

Someone saying that Luffy wouldn't have personal motivation for screwing over the tenryuubito (by smashing redline and by that, Mariejoa) really needs to not talk...


destroying the red line doesnt screw over the Tenryuubito, by the time things ahve been set in mostion to destroy the red line the Tenryuubito would ahve been overthrown anyway
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
April 21 2013 04:16 GMT
#7238
On January 23 2013 13:05 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 03:21 Conquest101 wrote:
Also, please do not start arguing with forikorder again, for fuck's sake, or this thread is gonna go to shit again.


Should I just post this on every page. Or maybe a mod note? lol


Just saying.

And the Redline theory is just that. A theory. It'd be interesting if that's the way Oda went, but as of right now, no one knows except for Oda (and the editors he's told). I don't think anyone else is in a position to say "This WILL happen" or This CAN'T HAPPEN" etc., etc.
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
April 21 2013 14:49 GMT
#7239
On April 21 2013 13:16 Conquest101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 13:05 Conquest101 wrote:
On January 17 2013 03:21 Conquest101 wrote:
Also, please do not start arguing with forikorder again, for fuck's sake, or this thread is gonna go to shit again.


Should I just post this on every page. Or maybe a mod note? lol


Just saying.

And the Redline theory is just that. A theory. It'd be interesting if that's the way Oda went, but as of right now, no one knows except for Oda (and the editors he's told). I don't think anyone else is in a position to say "This WILL happen" or This CAN'T HAPPEN" etc., etc.



TY



Also can someone explain this to me. I understand Ussops birthday being on April Fools Day but what about everyone else is there some deeper meaning to the others as well.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 21 2013 14:56 GMT
#7240
On April 21 2013 04:58 Slaughter wrote:
I just started to give One Piece again after trying it a long time ago and not being into it. Now I am hooked and I am wondering if I should also being reading the Manga or if they are very similar and I should just do one or the other.

The only time I ever thought the anime was better than the manga was with FLCL because the anime medium did SO much more and offered so much more possibility in presentation for what it was trying to do than the manga. But in almost every other instance I found manga to be much more fulfilling than their anime counterparts.
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