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I hope CP9 Rob Lucci make a return.....
And other Cp9 too!
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
Something for us to do, when we wait for next episode~ I hope CP9 Rob Lucci make a return..... And other Cp9 too! | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2555 Posts
Who else thinks Sanji is going to get backstabbed by that dancer? He has such horrible luck with women, haha. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 13 2013 02:57 Hyperbola wrote: So how many people at that colosseum actually stand a chance against luffy? We've got Burgess, Diamante and probably Bartolomeo (although he's going to be destroyed fairly quickly). It's also very possible that Bartolomeo is a character that we already know that's just coming back with a new name because I just get that vibe from him. Who else thinks Sanji is going to get backstabbed by that dancer? He has such horrible luck with women, haha. shed have to backstab him alot for him to care  hes definently being used and will probably get thrown out afterwards though | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 13 2013 12:15 BlackMagister wrote: Romance doesn't really exist in One Piece just a lot of teasing so the only way Sanji would get a relationship would be by being used so I say go for it. Oh right Sanji also has another goal All Blue. I wish they would have same way to actually show progress in that goal. I suppose his goal can be reached by just aimless traveling like Nami's goal though. all blue is almost certainly near/around/in raftel | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On April 13 2013 12:16 Forikorder wrote: all blue is almost certainly near/around/in raftel all blue is the middle of the earth when all the red lines get destroyed."one piece", all oceans connected | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 13 2013 12:21 grush57 wrote: all blue is the middle of the earth when all the red lines get destroyed."one piece", all oceans connected all oceans are already connected it takes alot more then free passage to make fish of every type live in one area jsut like youll never find one on earth also i think its ridiculous to think that Luffy plans to destroy the entire red line | ||
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Elerris
Australia137 Posts
Link: http://www.chia-anime.com/movie-english-sub/watch-one-piece-movie-12-film-z.html Though the subs weren't that high of a quality, and i'm sure there will be better versions coming out soon, they were good enough to satisfy me after however many months we waited. Overall it was pretty good, the fight scenes were of a somewhat different style to the previous movies, which at times was not a good thing as they often looked quite cluttered. + Show Spoiler + I was somewhat disappointed with the way the fights went down. At first the crew was attacked by Z, and they got completely smashed, and then the second and third times they encountered Z's crew, they suddenly went boss mode and Z's strongest crew members got owned without Zoro and Sanji barely breaking a sweat. Luffy and Z's punch-up at the end also felt strange, can't tell if I liked it or not. Thoughts? | ||
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1oo
Portugal876 Posts
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nadafanboy42
Netherlands209 Posts
On April 13 2013 12:15 BlackMagister wrote: Romance doesn't really exist in One Piece just a lot of teasing so the only way Sanji would get a relationship would be by being used so I say go for it. Oh right Sanji also has another goal All Blue. I wish they would have some way to actually show progress in that goal. In the anime there was a scene where Sanji tasted salt that was highly suggested to be from All Blue, but of course that's not cannon. I suppose his goal can be reached by just aimless traveling like Nami's goal though. Tbh one of the things that made me lose a lot of interest in One Piece was how the other crewmembers' storylines basically got shafted. In the beginning they're all introduced as having their own dreams and their own goals, but once the whole crew is together everyone just becomes supporting characters in Luffy's quest to become Pirate King. They only have character progress (ie: get stronger) when it is needed to help Luffy, and Luffy is the only one who makes noteworthy advances towards his goal of becoming Pirate King. I eventually went back to reading One Piece so I don't mind it now. But I don't see any point in caring about All Blue or Zoro's childhood promise or any of the crew's own story-arcs. We're just going to get the occasional lip-service to it once every hundred chapters until the end of One Piece and then there'll be an epilogue where everyone achieved their dreams somehow. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On April 14 2013 23:18 nadafanboy42 wrote: Tbh one of the things that made me lose a lot of interest in One Piece was how the other crewmembers' storylines basically got shafted. In the beginning they're all introduced as having their own dreams and their own goals, but once the whole crew is together everyone just becomes supporting characters in Luffy's quest to become Pirate King. They only have character progress (ie: get stronger) when it is needed to help Luffy, and Luffy is the only one who makes noteworthy advances towards his goal of becoming Pirate King. I eventually went back to reading One Piece so I don't mind it now. But I don't see any point in caring about All Blue or Zoro's childhood promise or any of the crew's own story-arcs. We're just going to get the occasional lip-service to it once every hundred chapters until the end of One Piece and then there'll be an epilogue where everyone achieved their dreams somehow. Their goals are on the same path as Luffy's though, which is why they're on his crew in the first place. Their backstories are the reason they joined, and what gives some of them the will power to fight on. Nami *is* drawing that world map. They are all still looking for All Blue (which they think is on Grand Line). Zoro is fighting and trying to get stronger to be the best swordsman. etc etc. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
I just hope i get to see the end of this story because i bet it's going to be awesome ;D | ||
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nadafanboy42
Netherlands209 Posts
On April 14 2013 23:27 Milkis wrote: Their goals are on the same path as Luffy's though, which is why they're on his crew in the first place. Their backstories are the reason they joined, and what gives some of them the will power to fight on. Nami *is* drawing that world map. They are all still looking for All Blue (which they think is on Grand Line). Zoro is fighting and trying to get stronger to be the best swordsman. etc etc. Saying Nami is drawing that world map or saying they are looking for all blue or saying they are with Luffy because it helps them fulfil their dreams is not the same as showing that they are working on their dreams and having that be an actual part of the storylines. You can say Zoro getting stronger is part of his arc to be the best swordsman, but I disagree. Zoro fighting Mihawk during Sanji's introduction arc was a part of Zoro's arc, because it actually was about Zoro and who he is as a character. Zoro getting stronger in arcs that are otherwise all about Luffy and the villains of that arc (and their victims), doesn't count imo. I think you hit the nail on the head with your description though. The backstories and goals of the crew are only there to set up their motivation and personality as characters. It's just that when I first started reading One Piece I (perhaps naively) thought they would get storylines and character progression of their own outside of just getting stronger to keep up with the new enemies Luffy's facing. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 14 2013 23:55 nadafanboy42 wrote: Saying Nami is drawing that world map or saying they are looking for all blue or saying they are with Luffy because it helps them fulfil their dreams is not the same as showing that they are working on their dreams and having that be an actual part of the storylines. You can say Zoro getting stronger is part of his arc to be the best swordsman, but I disagree. Zoro fighting Mihawk during Sanji's introduction arc was a part of Zoro's arc, because it actually was about Zoro and who he is as a character. Zoro getting stronger in arcs that are otherwise all about Luffy and the villains of that arc (and their victims), doesn't count imo. I think you hit the nail on the head with your description though. The backstories and goals of the crew are only there to set up their motivation and personality as characters. It's just that when I first started reading One Piece I (perhaps naively) thought they would get storylines and character progression of their own outside of just getting stronger to keep up with the new enemies Luffy's facing. the problem is all of there goals are intangible that cant really be shown that there advancing towards so unless you want every single member of the crew to be constantly spouting there goal like Luffy i dont know what your expecting | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On April 14 2013 23:27 Milkis wrote: Their goals are on the same path as Luffy's though, which is why they're on his crew in the first place. Their backstories are the reason they joined, and what gives some of them the will power to fight on. Nami *is* drawing that world map. They are all still looking for All Blue (which they think is on Grand Line). Zoro is fighting and trying to get stronger to be the best swordsman. etc etc. Also one of the reasons why I/a lot of people like OP so much more than other anime is that it has a definitive goal - but also has numerous side plots as you just pointed out (Nami's world map etc). So it'll be soooooo long before it finishes. | ||
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nadafanboy42
Netherlands209 Posts
On April 15 2013 00:10 Forikorder wrote: the problem is all of there goals are intangible that cant really be shown that there advancing towards so unless you want every single member of the crew to be constantly spouting there goal like Luffy i dont know what your expecting Of the top of my head I can list half a dozen action manga's which imo have done a better job advancing the storylines/goals of non-lead characters: Full Metal Alchemist, Naruto, Magi, Vinland Saga, Shingeki no Kyojin, Ao no Exorcist. Shikamaru in Naruto who isn't even a secondary main character has had more character development then half of Luffy's crew, imo. But I think you're kinda missing what I said from the beginning though. When I started watching/reading One Piece I had different expectations, but that is like over 10 years ago now. Since then I've learned not to expect/demand things to be something they are not and where never meant to be. One Piece imo isn't and isn't meant to be about character development. It's about character interaction and setting (world building). The characterization of Luffy's crew and their interaction with each other, as well as the settings and the world building with each arc in One Piece, those are amongst the best of any manga out there afaik. And seeing as last I checked it was still the #1 manga in Japan, One Piece is also doing fine as it has been. | ||
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amaDeus
Germany205 Posts
Of the top of my head I can list half a dozen action manga's which imo have done a better job advancing the storylines/goals of non-lead characters: Full Metal Alchemist, Naruto, UHHHHM WAT? Naruto? Naruto doesnt have any sidecharacters that got much shinetime except gaara. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On April 14 2013 22:09 Elerris wrote: For those who don't know, One Piece Film Z came out with English subs today. Link: http://www.chia-anime.com/movie-english-sub/watch-one-piece-movie-12-film-z.html Though the subs weren't that high of a quality, and i'm sure there will be better versions coming out soon, they were good enough to satisfy me after however many months we waited. Overall it was pretty good, the fight scenes were of a somewhat different style to the previous movies, which at times was not a good thing as they often looked quite cluttered. + Show Spoiler + I was somewhat disappointed with the way the fights went down. At first the crew was attacked by Z, and they got completely smashed, and then the second and third times they encountered Z's crew, they suddenly went boss mode and Z's strongest crew members got owned without Zoro and Sanji barely breaking a sweat. Luffy and Z's punch-up at the end also felt strange, can't tell if I liked it or not. Thoughts? I watch bit by bit too. + Show Spoiler + Similar thoughts, First two times they got owned, and then we beat them easy during 3rd encounter. And also, I would like to see the might of new navy vs the might of the navy...  Maybe luffy crew could take part too... | ||
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nadafanboy42
Netherlands209 Posts
On April 15 2013 00:45 amaDeus wrote: + Show Spoiler + Of the top of my head I can list half a dozen action manga's which imo have done a better job advancing the storylines/goals of non-lead characters: Full Metal Alchemist, Naruto, UHHHHM WAT? Naruto? Naruto doesnt have any sidecharacters that got much shinetime except gaara. Uhm, no offence but are we talking about the same manga? Team 10 got pretty much an entire arc for themselves, to give just one example. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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