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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Wow. Just wow. An amazing movie. Even the effects mostly hold up; they probably look cheesier now than they were in 1996, but that cheesiness goes perfectly with the overall tone of the movie. A perfect October watch. | ||
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On October 14 2020 19:34 lestye wrote: Highly recommend My Octopus Teacher on netflix It's such a bizarre, oddly soothing documentary. It simultaneously lulls me almost to sleep but keeps me awake with its strangeness. The main guy just seems so weird and obsessed, yet it's strangely engrossing to see how much further he goes and what happens to the octopus. It also helps that the octopus herself is extremely clever and intelligent with her antics. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
![[image loading]](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/wonder-woman-1984-poster-1606931235.jpg) Wonder Woman 1984 What a clusterfuck of a movie... Barely anything made sense in it, the pacing was horrible, the editing was pretty bad and in general the movie was rather boring and way too long. There were some good things in it but they get overshadowed by all the bad in it. Also, the ending was terribly unsatisfactory and really left me puzzled... Do not recommend. Sadly, there are better ways to spend your time. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
But ya, the first WW movie was way better imo. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
I am stunned at how bad this movie was. It was boring, the plot was ridiculous and stupid, the VFX were so bad they completely took me out of the movie. Just what the fuck was this movie? Wonder Woman deserves better than this. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16701 Posts
On December 27 2020 17:22 Vindicare605 wrote: I just can't believe that a professional script writer wrote this script and it was actually approved. This is a great point. Often times the brunt of the abuse is directed at the front line people. However, the management morons approving the garbage product are more responsible than the front liners. When you go to a retail store and the service is lousy its not really the front line staff members' fault. Management hired the lousy employee(s) and chose to keep staff levels low thereby guaranteeing bad service. On December 27 2020 20:16 Manit0u wrote: Also, in the first hour of the movie she was in costume for maybe 2 minutes total. And the final battle costume was pointless and shit as hell (I like her standard costume much better). To put this observation/complaint into perspective... For whatever reason many critics are referencing Richard Donner when talking about WW84. Welp, in Donner's "Superman: The Movie" .... the suited up adult Superman doesn't appear until almost 1 hour into the movie and he does a pretty basic move to save Lois Lane's life. Superman doesn't do anything spectacular until almost the 2 hour mark. Of course, Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman are on another level and buy the film maker a lot of instant cred. No one in WW84 is anywhere close to Marlon Brando's level. "Superman: The Movie" is universally praised by critics, comic book fans, and movie goers both hard core and casual. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
As for the movie sucking, has DC done anything good? People seemed to like the first Wonder Woman, though I heard it was fairly studio-fare. It seems like they have been interfering heavily with all of their films, making them all safe, and therefore very shitty. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Shazaam was ok, and Aquaman was ok for what IT was, but yea most of these DCEU movies are not just bad they're REALLY bad. Wonder Woman 1984 gets extra suck points from me though because it's just genuinely boring for most of it. Genuinely boring with a ridiculous stupid plot. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
If they managed to convince those people to write scripts for their live action stuff I think DC would easily trump Marvel. DC made the mistake of not fully committing. They wanted to be a counter-part to Marvel with darker and more mature stuff but ultimately they went with darker tone but still kept it safe. If they went full on R rated with Batman for example it would be a different story. Unfortunately PG-13 rating is too coveted and China is too big of a market (although in my opinion if they went full dark DC they would recuperate worldwide). | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16701 Posts
On December 28 2020 08:14 WarSame wrote: Gal Gadot apparently needed surgery after the first movie, so maybe they tried to get her moving less, especially in the suit. As for the movie sucking, has DC done anything good? People seemed to like the first Wonder Woman, though I heard it was fairly studio-fare. It seems like they have been interfering heavily with all of their films, making them all safe, and therefore very shitty. Turns out the director did not want the 3rd act to include a large scale action sequence. THat's hilarious. Turns out she is against action scenes in general.  Also, it turns out the director was referencing a movie called "Heaven Can Wait" when she brought WW's bf back to life. "Heaven Can Wait" ? WTF? Warren Beatty? really ? how old is this director? did she have a crush on this guy when she was 14 or something? I dislike fiction/lore where dead people come back. It means nothing is off the table. Death is the ultimate final event. Reversing it is BS. This is a great criticism of WW84. Hell I found watching this youtube video 100X more entertaining than the actual movie. In , "Heaven Can Wait" the protagonist takes over the body of a man who just died. In WW84 the guy losing his body is still alive. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16701 Posts
Superman:The Movie had lots of yapping and endless dialogue for the first hour. The difference here is ... the dialogue was between guys with 87 bazillion times more critical cred than the nobodies acting in WW84. I'm sure Gadot is a fine human being. She don't have 1 billionth the cred of Marlon Brando.. so no super hero flick fans want to listen to her babble away. Marlon Brando... uhhh ya... he can give a 20 minute speech and no one will question it. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16701 Posts
On January 05 2021 14:17 Vindicare605 wrote: The funny part about that is that Marlon Brando was infamously difficult to work with at that point in his career. He gave next to no effort on the part of being Jor'el. That is Reeve's perspective. During that 1982 interview with Letterman, Reeve got his facts wrong about what Brando got paid. Reeve was way, way off. Who knows what other "facts" Reeve got wrong during that interview. Here is Director Richard Donner's perspective. "He and Chris did not meet at the beginning. But they did have a scene, because I remember how nervous Chris was, working with Brando. But Brando was nice to him. He was nice to everybody. They had dinner; he was Chris’ hero. He was a doll. He was totally present, on time. Not difficult, [though] we had to put his dialogue on other actors’ chests. He would say, “I don't want to read it like I've read it before a bunch of times. The first time I read it, it'll be honest.” He made it work. He was the ultimate. He was Marlon Brando. He was Marlon F—ing Brando." https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/superman-inside-story-director-richard-879894 Gene Siskel thought Brando made Jor-El believable and loved Brando's performance. I concur. Actors like Marlon Brando, Susannah York and Terence Stamp can pull this overly-serious, far-out fiction shit off. They're just on another level. The Salkinds went into cost cutting mode and pulled Brando out of Superman 2. Of course, Brando would be hostile to those actions. Marlon Brando, who had already been paid $3.7 million and 11.75% of the first movies gross profits for his 13 days work playing Superman's Krytonian Father Jor-El (nice work if you can get it!), successfully sued the Salkinds for an additional $50 million over grossed profits gained from the first film. In response, the Salkinds cut Brando out of Superman II, replacing all of his scenes (filmed under Donner) with newly shot Richard Lester material featuring Kal-El's Mother Lara, as played by Susannah York, reciting the lines that Brando would've had. The Salkinds were being fucks. Brando would not back down... and won a protracted legal battle in a landslide. The result is .. Brando is labelled as "difficult to work with" because he stood up to some Hollywood producers. I say .... he just wanted the Salkinds to honour their contract.... that doesn't make him "difficult to work with". | ||
Falling
Canada11350 Posts
Oh boy. Seems to be choosing some rather funny projects if she's not into action scenes. I mean, you can certainly make super hero films without action- Joker comes to mind. But that isn't exactly in the same vein as those big spectacle films that DC seems intent on making to rival Marvel's domination. | ||
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