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Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 04:54:19
June 06 2013 04:48 GMT
#19081
George R.R. Martin was on Conan tonight. Was a pretty cool guest.



I have Episode 9 ready to be watched but having a hard time getting myself to press play. Like some others said, having read the books, it can't be worse than that. Easier to watch actors doing it instead of having to imagine it all in your head. Also interesting to hear that he actually uses the guy who made the Westeros website (huge website of the series with tons of history and explains pretty much everything) to double-check some of his characters. I guess even he can lose track of them all.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 06 2013 04:57 GMT
#19082
On June 06 2013 13:17 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 06 2013 10:11 Hitch-22 wrote:
^if you spoiled, a 7700 post account, you should be perm banned from this site.

I'm not going to comment on the insides of his post, but even if everything that he said was true he shouldn't be banned in my opinion. People overrate spoilers..


If what he said was indeed spoilers for the entire storyline start to finish then he deserves a perma ban for ruining thousands of viewers enjoyment of a show. He would be as sadistic as Theon's torturer.

Spoilers don't ruin a show.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
June 06 2013 05:04 GMT
#19083
On June 06 2013 13:57 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:17 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 06 2013 10:11 Hitch-22 wrote:
^if you spoiled, a 7700 post account, you should be perm banned from this site.

I'm not going to comment on the insides of his post, but even if everything that he said was true he shouldn't be banned in my opinion. People overrate spoilers..


If what he said was indeed spoilers for the entire storyline start to finish then he deserves a perma ban for ruining thousands of viewers enjoyment of a show. He would be as sadistic as Theon's torturer.

Spoilers don't ruin a show.


Depends who you ask. That's just your opinion.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
June 06 2013 05:08 GMT
#19084
On June 06 2013 13:57 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:17 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 06 2013 10:11 Hitch-22 wrote:
^if you spoiled, a 7700 post account, you should be perm banned from this site.

I'm not going to comment on the insides of his post, but even if everything that he said was true he shouldn't be banned in my opinion. People overrate spoilers..


If what he said was indeed spoilers for the entire storyline start to finish then he deserves a perma ban for ruining thousands of viewers enjoyment of a show. He would be as sadistic as Theon's torturer.

Spoilers don't ruin a show.

You'll find yourself in the minority with that opinion. Hardly anyone likes to be told what happens in a movie/book they plan on reading, it takes away a lot of the suspense. Wanting to find out what happens next is a lot of why people keep watching/reading. Definitely should be a perma-ban for major spoilers.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 05:19:52
June 06 2013 05:11 GMT
#19085
Yes, and my opinion is that people who think that spoilers ruin shows are overthinking it and it's their own fault. Threatening someone who posts speculations with a perma ban seems a little ridiculous to me. A perma ban on a forum about starcraft (and dota/league) for saying a few things that will happen in the future in a completely unrelated show? I think people who are afraid of spoilers are ruining the shows for themselves. I've been spoiled what happens in SnK and I didn't let it bother me. I could have, and it probably would have left a bad taste in my mouth if I did, but I didn't. And so, from my perspective, anyone whose enjoyment of a show is ruined just because they know a few things that will happen can only blame themselves.
There was actually an experiment that proved that people who got spoiled the story of some books didn't have their experiences ruined at all.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/08/spoilers-dont-spoil-anything/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/spoilers-study_n_924413.html
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/soc/2011_08spoilers.asp
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11577 Posts
June 06 2013 05:11 GMT
#19086
On June 06 2013 13:34 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:28 Aegon I wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:22 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:17 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 06 2013 10:11 Hitch-22 wrote:
^if you spoiled, a 7700 post account, you should be perm banned from this site.

I'm not going to comment on the insides of his post, but even if everything that he said was true he shouldn't be banned in my opinion. People overrate spoilers..


If what he said was indeed spoilers for the entire storyline start to finish then he deserves a perma ban for ruining thousands of viewers enjoyment of a show. He would be as sadistic as Theon's torturer.

But if you ban him then everyone that read it knows it's true and not just speculation. If you leave it be you can pass it off as just some one else guessing what is going to happen.

The only way someone can truly spoil what's going to happen in the show is if some one else validates that it's a spoiler and not just some one guessing / trolling


Example: If I say something like Joffrey kills Tyrion next episode or sometime soon, unless I get banned or some one freaks the fuck out how can you truly know if I just spoiled something or just pulled that out of my ass?

Exactly, I read his post and so many other am pretty sure.
So, Banning him will diffidently show that was exact spoiler or some at least.

But, it's a good prediction.


Not if you make "predictions" a ban-able offense. There is no loop-hole anymore. If all preditions are banned, there is no way to distinguish which prediction was accurate/spoiler.

That would pretty much hamstring the entire discussion thread.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
June 06 2013 05:12 GMT
#19087
You don't understand how passionate people are about the series then.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 06 2013 05:19 GMT
#19088
On June 06 2013 14:11 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 13:34 plogamer wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:28 Aegon I wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:22 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:17 Zooper31 wrote:
On June 06 2013 13:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 06 2013 10:11 Hitch-22 wrote:
^if you spoiled, a 7700 post account, you should be perm banned from this site.

I'm not going to comment on the insides of his post, but even if everything that he said was true he shouldn't be banned in my opinion. People overrate spoilers..


If what he said was indeed spoilers for the entire storyline start to finish then he deserves a perma ban for ruining thousands of viewers enjoyment of a show. He would be as sadistic as Theon's torturer.

But if you ban him then everyone that read it knows it's true and not just speculation. If you leave it be you can pass it off as just some one else guessing what is going to happen.

The only way someone can truly spoil what's going to happen in the show is if some one else validates that it's a spoiler and not just some one guessing / trolling


Example: If I say something like Joffrey kills Tyrion next episode or sometime soon, unless I get banned or some one freaks the fuck out how can you truly know if I just spoiled something or just pulled that out of my ass?

Exactly, I read his post and so many other am pretty sure.
So, Banning him will diffidently show that was exact spoiler or some at least.

But, it's a good prediction.


Not if you make "predictions" a ban-able offense. There is no loop-hole anymore. If all preditions are banned, there is no way to distinguish which prediction was accurate/spoiler.

That would pretty much hamstring the entire discussion thread.

Yeah, that'd be very stupid. The best solution is, for blatant spoilers, to remove them as soon as they get posted so that the fewest possible people get spoiled. But I still think that worrying about this as a non-moderator is a waste of time. You can't control not being spoiled if you read things like twitter/reddit/4chan/any chatroom ever, I've even met people spoiling people on league and dota
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 06 2013 05:35 GMT
#19089
I have to say, despite the Stark's being "responsible" for their own fate, they're unbelievably unlucky. Ned Stark apologizes for treason yet still gets executed in the most heinous way even though he was supposed to be spared. Robb Stark is betrayed despite taking reasonable measures to make up for his mistakes in the past. Arya almost reaches her family and they all die right before she makes it there (although I guess you could argue this is lucky for her), and Sansa almost makes it off the island and marries a person she wants to marry until Tywin gets involved at the last moment.

On the other hand you have Jaime who miraculously escapes some dead end situations multiple times, and Tyrion survives an axe to the face.

Also, I'm really looking forward to how the Jaime storyline evolves. After all, he's supposed to keep his word and return the girls to the Stark family, right? Well, now they're dead so what does he do now? Surely he won't just do nothing about it, but how could he ever possibly make it up to the Starks for sparing his life?
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
June 06 2013 05:57 GMT
#19090
On June 06 2013 14:11 OutlaW- wrote:
Yes, and my opinion is that people who think that spoilers ruin shows are overthinking it and it's their own fault. Threatening someone who posts speculations with a perma ban seems a little ridiculous to me. A perma ban on a forum about starcraft (and dota/league) for saying a few things that will happen in the future in a completely unrelated show? I think people who are afraid of spoilers are ruining the shows for themselves. I've been spoiled what happens in SnK and I didn't let it bother me. I could have, and it probably would have left a bad taste in my mouth if I did, but I didn't. And so, from my perspective, anyone whose enjoyment of a show is ruined just because they know a few things that will happen can only blame themselves.
There was actually an experiment that proved that people who got spoiled the story of some books didn't have their experiences ruined at all.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/08/spoilers-dont-spoil-anything/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/spoilers-study_n_924413.html
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/soc/2011_08spoilers.asp


We had this discussion once already in this thread. With the same articles. It was proven a fallacy last time as well. Furthermore do you really think it fair to make that decision on behalf of other people? The note specifically states not to spoil, so if you spoil under the veil of speculating a ban seems perfectly in line.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
June 06 2013 06:01 GMT
#19091
On June 06 2013 14:57 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 14:11 OutlaW- wrote:
Yes, and my opinion is that people who think that spoilers ruin shows are overthinking it and it's their own fault. Threatening someone who posts speculations with a perma ban seems a little ridiculous to me. A perma ban on a forum about starcraft (and dota/league) for saying a few things that will happen in the future in a completely unrelated show? I think people who are afraid of spoilers are ruining the shows for themselves. I've been spoiled what happens in SnK and I didn't let it bother me. I could have, and it probably would have left a bad taste in my mouth if I did, but I didn't. And so, from my perspective, anyone whose enjoyment of a show is ruined just because they know a few things that will happen can only blame themselves.
There was actually an experiment that proved that people who got spoiled the story of some books didn't have their experiences ruined at all.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/08/spoilers-dont-spoil-anything/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/spoilers-study_n_924413.html
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/soc/2011_08spoilers.asp


We had this discussion once already in this thread. With the same articles. It was proven a fallacy last time as well. Furthermore do you really think it fair to make that decision on behalf of other people? The note specifically states not to spoil, so if you spoil under the veil of speculating a ban seems perfectly in line.


That's all I was trying to get across really. Sure spoilering on accident is one thing. Spoilering on purpose and lying about it is one entirely thing all-together.

Also stop trying to prove something that isn't based on facts and varies person to person. Theres no way you can tell someone their opinion is wrong on something like this. I indeed do get my experienced ruined depending the the subject being spoiled and how much was revealed.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
June 06 2013 06:20 GMT
#19092
On June 06 2013 10:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 10:11 Hitch-22 wrote:
^if you spoiled, a 7700 post account, you should be perm banned from this site.


No the rule of leniency should still apply. I accidentally got a two day temp ban for quoting the wiki.

Difference is, if he's spoiling, he just ruined the next 2 books lol
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
June 06 2013 06:23 GMT
#19093
On June 06 2013 15:01 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 14:57 Ghostcom wrote:
On June 06 2013 14:11 OutlaW- wrote:
Yes, and my opinion is that people who think that spoilers ruin shows are overthinking it and it's their own fault. Threatening someone who posts speculations with a perma ban seems a little ridiculous to me. A perma ban on a forum about starcraft (and dota/league) for saying a few things that will happen in the future in a completely unrelated show? I think people who are afraid of spoilers are ruining the shows for themselves. I've been spoiled what happens in SnK and I didn't let it bother me. I could have, and it probably would have left a bad taste in my mouth if I did, but I didn't. And so, from my perspective, anyone whose enjoyment of a show is ruined just because they know a few things that will happen can only blame themselves.
There was actually an experiment that proved that people who got spoiled the story of some books didn't have their experiences ruined at all.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/08/spoilers-dont-spoil-anything/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/spoilers-study_n_924413.html
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/soc/2011_08spoilers.asp


We had this discussion once already in this thread. With the same articles. It was proven a fallacy last time as well. Furthermore do you really think it fair to make that decision on behalf of other people? The note specifically states not to spoil, so if you spoil under the veil of speculating a ban seems perfectly in line.


That's all I was trying to get across really. Sure spoilering on accident is one thing. Spoilering on purpose and lying about it is one entirely thing all-together.

Also stop trying to prove something that isn't based on facts and varies person to person. Theres no way you can tell someone their opinion is wrong on something like this. I indeed do get my experienced ruined depending the the subject being spoiled and how much was revealed.

Stories are a series events told by the storyteller with extra details, pacing, order, and dressing. HBO and George RR Martin are better at telling stories than random internet poster. Id prefer to hear the story from the former
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
June 06 2013 06:30 GMT
#19094
Was this the first ever episode without Tyrion?
#1 Terran hater
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
June 06 2013 06:40 GMT
#19095
On June 06 2013 15:30 Highways wrote:
Was this the first ever episode without Tyrion?


Pretty sure there was an episode before where we didn't see a single scene from anybody from Kings Landing in like S2. Not sure about S3 though.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
June 06 2013 06:49 GMT
#19096
People who say be spoiled does not take away from the story, have a very small emotional spectrum. Part of any good story is anticipation. Not seeing how anticipation leads to a more enthralling story, is just ignorance.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
ore0z
Profile Joined December 2009
Romania161 Posts
June 06 2013 07:02 GMT
#19097
Trailers and previews are considered spoilers too but are also used to hype. Spoilers can help.

Spoilers doesn't always ruin anticipation. There are those that come into episode 9 knowing what will happen but are still on the edge of their seat.
What creates anticipation is the story telling.

I still watch this episode and am still on the esge of my seat up to the moment talisa gets stabbed in the stomach. I don't think I'm the only one here who does that
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
June 06 2013 07:12 GMT
#19098
On June 06 2013 16:02 ore0z wrote:
Trailers and previews are considered spoilers too but are also used to hype. Spoilers can help.

Spoilers doesn't always ruin anticipation. There are those that come into episode 9 knowing what will happen but are still on the edge of their seat.
What creates anticipation is the story telling.

I still watch this episode and am still on the esge of my seat up to the moment talisa gets stabbed in the stomach. I don't think I'm the only one here who does that

-.-

You know what, I think I can speak for everyone in this thread but if you enjoy spoilers so much there is an entire other thread where you'll be spoiled to your hearts delight because the fact you're equating a trailer or a episode preview with any substantial spoiler (like if someone we to say Ned Stark died just before S1 finale) and/or somehow making them analogous is ridiculous...
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 07:16:29
June 06 2013 07:15 GMT
#19099
On June 06 2013 15:49 jcroisdale wrote:
People who say be spoiled does not take away from the story, have a very small emotional spectrum. Part of any good story is anticipation. Not seeing how anticipation leads to a more enthralling story, is just ignorance.


Way to generalize....I don't care very much about being spoiled since I can enjoy a show or book for other reasons, such as good dialogue, acting, story development etc. It's the opinion of the fool that everyone who doesn't share his pov is ignorant and wrong.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
June 06 2013 07:16 GMT
#19100
Can we have a separate thread for spoiler discussion? I came to read about the show not two pages about stuff the mods handle perfectly fine and always did.

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