This is a funny series of articles (4 so far), about an economic look on Westeros. As far as I can tell there are no spoilers in it. You should be able to find the other ones linked under this article.
Either he is very wrong or I don't understand his argument . The quote from the webpage is correct. Having currency (which sole purpose is to trade for goods) is less valuable then already having the goods. Also because those goods are necessary ( food for winter ) It is a very good investment to have. That is all well understood, but the premise does not lead to the conclusion that tyrells are richer than lannister. Lord Tywin invested his money in winning the crown. For all practical purposes he is the king which means he could tax the Tyrells if we wanted to, and they don't own a monopoly on food. I've examined each case of how they Tyrell's could leverage and they would lose every time.
tl;dr yes Tyrell's investment ( crops ) grow during winter, but Tywin invested his gold ( army ) in winning the crown which has better long and short term perks. Tyrell's investments are terrible long term because they HAVE to sell their food or else it will be worth nothing, while gold keeps shining.
2 points:
1 - try eating gold ... it might last longer but your gold won't feed you 2 - go tell Geoffrey that Tywinn is in charge ...
That's so dumb. You can trade gold for anything even food surprisingly. Like I said, Tywin is king practically because he is protector of the realm. So lets see the argument again. Food rises in value during winter. Gold bought him a kingdom. Gold in this case payed off and when winter is over the Tyrells will be nothing compared to the Lannisters.
Yes gold buys food but the Tyrells set the price. Tywin had the riverlands burned and the rest of the regions are not near as plentiful. They could ship their food from overseas but that would be very expensive. And yes the demand for food will only be so high for the winter but winter can last for years. The trick is surviving it, which means feeding your subjects/soldiers so they don't turn on you.
Yeah I admitted that was a good point, but their only point. In chaotic times having some bread is much better than having some gold. But in chaotic times strength is even better. If the Tyrells were trying to starve the rest of the realm to gain some profits that would easily piss everybody off. And since Tywin is the acting King he could order food to sent free of charge if he wanted to and nobody else would object.
In simple terms, winter has come and the Tyrells have a lot of food, but the Lannisters bought a gun with their gold.
This is a funny series of articles (4 so far), about an economic look on Westeros. As far as I can tell there are no spoilers in it. You should be able to find the other ones linked under this article.
Either he is very wrong or I don't understand his argument . The quote from the webpage is correct. Having currency (which sole purpose is to trade for goods) is less valuable then already having the goods. Also because those goods are necessary ( food for winter ) It is a very good investment to have. That is all well understood, but the premise does not lead to the conclusion that tyrells are richer than lannister. Lord Tywin invested his money in winning the crown. For all practical purposes he is the king which means he could tax the Tyrells if we wanted to, and they don't own a monopoly on food. I've examined each case of how they Tyrell's could leverage and they would lose every time.
tl;dr yes Tyrell's investment ( crops ) grow during winter, but Tywin invested his gold ( army ) in winning the crown which has better long and short term perks. Tyrell's investments are terrible long term because they HAVE to sell their food or else it will be worth nothing, while gold keeps shining.
2 points:
1 - try eating gold ... it might last longer but your gold won't feed you 2 - go tell Geoffrey that Tywinn is in charge ...
That's so dumb. You can trade gold for anything even food surprisingly. Like I said, Tywin is king practically because he is protector of the realm. So lets see the argument again. Food rises in value during winter. Gold bought him a kingdom. Gold in this case payed off and when winter is over the Tyrells will be nothing compared to the Lannisters.
Yes gold buys food but the Tyrells set the price. Tywin had the riverlands burned and the rest of the regions are not near as plentiful. They could ship their food from overseas but that would be very expensive. And yes the demand for food will only be so high for the winter but winter can last for years. The trick is surviving it, which means feeding your subjects/soldiers so they don't turn on you.
Yeah I admitted that was a good point, but their only point. In chaotic times having some bread is much better than having some gold. But in chaotic times strength is even better. If the Tyrells were trying to starve the rest of the realm to gain some profits that would easily piss everybody off. And since Tywin is the acting King he could order food to sent free of charge if he wanted to and nobody else would object.
In simple terms, winter has come and the Tyrells have a lot of food, but the Lannisters bought a gun with their gold.
One gun can't protect against an army of swords, and an army marches on it's stomach.
This is a funny series of articles (4 so far), about an economic look on Westeros. As far as I can tell there are no spoilers in it. You should be able to find the other ones linked under this article.
Either he is very wrong or I don't understand his argument . The quote from the webpage is correct. Having currency (which sole purpose is to trade for goods) is less valuable then already having the goods. Also because those goods are necessary ( food for winter ) It is a very good investment to have. That is all well understood, but the premise does not lead to the conclusion that tyrells are richer than lannister. Lord Tywin invested his money in winning the crown. For all practical purposes he is the king which means he could tax the Tyrells if we wanted to, and they don't own a monopoly on food. I've examined each case of how they Tyrell's could leverage and they would lose every time.
tl;dr yes Tyrell's investment ( crops ) grow during winter, but Tywin invested his gold ( army ) in winning the crown which has better long and short term perks. Tyrell's investments are terrible long term because they HAVE to sell their food or else it will be worth nothing, while gold keeps shining.
2 points:
1 - try eating gold ... it might last longer but your gold won't feed you 2 - go tell Geoffrey that Tywinn is in charge ...
That's so dumb. You can trade gold for anything even food surprisingly. Like I said, Tywin is king practically because he is protector of the realm. So lets see the argument again. Food rises in value during winter. Gold bought him a kingdom. Gold in this case payed off and when winter is over the Tyrells will be nothing compared to the Lannisters.
Yes gold buys food but the Tyrells set the price. Tywin had the riverlands burned and the rest of the regions are not near as plentiful. They could ship their food from overseas but that would be very expensive. And yes the demand for food will only be so high for the winter but winter can last for years. The trick is surviving it, which means feeding your subjects/soldiers so they don't turn on you.
Yeah I admitted that was a good point, but their only point. In chaotic times having some bread is much better than having some gold. But in chaotic times strength is even better. If the Tyrells were trying to starve the rest of the realm to gain some profits that would easily piss everybody off. And since Tywin is the acting King he could order food to sent free of charge if he wanted to and nobody else would object.
In simple terms, winter has come and the Tyrells have a lot of food, but the Lannisters bought a gun with their gold.
not really relevant video but it serves my point. The thieves steal because they are the strongest ones left (obv because the soldiers/police are fighting off the siege).If the Tyrells try to abuse their monopoly so much that EVEN the Lannisters can't pay then the rest of the realm will just take their food. I don't see what is so hard to understand. In USA's great depression people with gold could have been considered the Tyrells because gold was a safer currency as the dollar was rapidly devalued in terms of gold. The government doesn't care who owns what, when times are hard they will take it if they have to. They forced everybody to sell their gold to them and made owning gold (mostly) illegal. Hell I bet the peasants would come out themselves to kill Tyrells if they tried to manipulate the price.
With that said, food increases in value during winter that is just simple supply and demand. But they don't have the strength to bully the realm like that.
I cant wait, till everyone in Westeros finally realizes that Danny has dragons. Like Im sure they've heard rumors so far, but obviously dismissed it because they have more pressing matters in front of them. But when they seriously start to realize that she has real dragons again... I cant wait to see their reactions, ahhaah.
I think a lot of people here are selling the Tyrells short. They are not just in charge of a plentiful land, their army is large and survived Blackwater largely unscathed while the Lannisters have suffered a series of crushing defeats. It's not just monetary value vs actual value and an army vs no army, the Tyrells and the Lannisters have agreed to split the kingdom between them and both parties need the other.
Loving this season. This is the only series i find difficult to follow and cant remember the names of most of the characters lol, i think im going to go rewatch everything.
Geoffrey be fucked up, i knew he was a sick fuck but i was + Show Spoiler +
shocked when i saw he had shot up rosa (? the prostitute spy lol)
literally nothing prior led up to it, apart from him being a sick fuck of course, total mind blown moment for me lol.
Loving the dragon chick's moves, that army stunt was awesome lol.
Also - 700 feet high, 5 feet wide. GG No Re. What a wall lol
It isn't all 5 feet wide, just the top is.... The wall "weeps" and the water goes down and refreezes lower. It would make sense that it is narrow at the top and wide at the bottom. If you remember the tunnel through the wall that the Night's watch take you will see the bottom is hundreds of feet deep.
On May 11 2013 16:36 Capped wrote: Loving this season. This is the only series i find difficult to follow and cant remember the names of most of the characters lol, i think im going to go rewatch everything.
Geoffrey be fucked up, i knew he was a sick fuck but i was + Show Spoiler +
shocked when i saw he had shot up rosa (? the prostitute spy lol)
literally nothing prior led up to it, apart from him being a sick fuck of course, total mind blown moment for me lol.
Loving the dragon chick's moves, that army stunt was awesome lol.
Also - 700 feet high, 5 feet wide. GG No Re. What a wall lol
Pretty sure he killed Rosa because she fucked up Petyr's plans with Sansa by revealing them to Varys. Littlefinger probably had more to do with her murder than the King.
On May 11 2013 16:36 Capped wrote: Loving this season. This is the only series i find difficult to follow and cant remember the names of most of the characters lol, i think im going to go rewatch everything.
Geoffrey be fucked up, i knew he was a sick fuck but i was + Show Spoiler +
shocked when i saw he had shot up rosa (? the prostitute spy lol)
literally nothing prior led up to it, apart from him being a sick fuck of course, total mind blown moment for me lol.
Loving the dragon chick's moves, that army stunt was awesome lol.
Also - 700 feet high, 5 feet wide. GG No Re. What a wall lol
Pretty sure he killed Rosa because she fucked up Petyr's plans with Sansa by revealing them to Varys. Littlefinger probably had more to do with her murder than the King.
She was a traitor to him, and put him at serious risk, he needed to remove her. She's not sworn to him, but traitors generally get executed. Joffrey just wanted to feel what it was like to actually kill someone, so Baelish got both the King's favor for providing it, and got rid of his own problem while his hands remained relatively clean.
On May 12 2013 11:48 duoform wrote: Anyone knows what happened with Ned's Valyrian sword? I'm watching the EXTRAS from Season 1 and I don't think anywhere in the show mentions it..
the headsman walked off the platform with it, but i haven't seen it since season one.
EPT
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