EPTI highly doubt that she would do anything against her father, and it's not like she doesn't want to have Joffrey controlled, but that she is afraid of him. But never say never
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
I highly doubt that she would do anything against her father, and it's not like she doesn't want to have Joffrey controlled, but that she is afraid of him. But never say never | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22352 Posts
On May 10 2013 22:15 Emix_Squall wrote: 2 - go tell Geoffrey that Tywinn is in charge ... The first time Joffrey tries his "im king" on Tywin hes going to get slapped in the face. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On May 11 2013 02:28 Gorsameth wrote: The first time Joffrey tries his "im king" on Tywin hes going to get slapped in the face. Tywin's gonna sit on the iron throne, puts Joffrey across his lap face down, pulls down Joff's pants and spanks him in front of the whole court. Hear me roar bitch. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22352 Posts
On May 11 2013 02:31 icystorage wrote: Tywin's gonna sit on the iron throne, puts Joffrey across his lap face down, pulls down Joff's pants and spanks him in front of the whole court. Hear me roar bitch. In front of the court i can see Tywin follow along with Joffrey so long as he doesnt get to crazy. Disrespecting the king in public would weaken the Lannister position. But hes not going to take anything in private. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On May 11 2013 02:41 Gorsameth wrote: In front of the court i can see Tywin follow along with Joffrey so long as he doesnt get to crazy. Disrespecting the king in public would weaken the Lannister position. But hes not going to take anything in private. you do know i am exaggerating? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22352 Posts
Ofc hes not going to spank him no. But i dont see him telling Joffrey "no" in front of the court either because it weakens the position of the king. And god knows its weak enough as it is. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18289 Posts
On May 10 2013 20:05 zatic wrote: I thought along similar lines when we discussed the Tywin - Ollena power struggle earlier. As long as the war is going, and with winter coming, the Tyrells have the upper hand. The Lannisters need the Tyrell resources, and there is no one really who they could buy food from if the Tyrells refuse. So all their riches don't help them into a strong position over the Tyrells, so that is why Ollena could argue so boldly with Tywin. In a hypothetical peaceful situation though the Lannisters (and the crown) would be much better off economically, if they can choose who to buy from (Reach, Riverlands, Stormlands, North). Right now they are very much depending on Tyrell resources though. Dorne (although mostly a desert) or anywhere in Essos. | ||
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adh
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On May 10 2013 22:15 Emix_Squall wrote: 2 points: 1 - try eating gold ... it might last longer but your gold won't feed you 2 - go tell Geoffrey that Tywinn is in charge ... That's so dumb. You can trade gold for anything even food surprisingly. Like I said, Tywin is king practically because he is protector of the realm. So lets see the argument again. Food rises in value during winter. Gold bought him a kingdom. Gold in this case payed off and when winter is over the Tyrells will be nothing compared to the Lannisters. | ||
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Aegon I
Canada133 Posts
On May 10 2013 18:40 zbedlam wrote: He is an annoying, fail version of Hodor. I would go as far to say as Hodor is smarter than Sam in every way, so what if he can read? Hodor wouldn't run into the wilderness with some random chick to play daddy while surrounded by zombies and cutthroats. Even when Hodor speaks it sounds smarter than Sam. We don't actually know what Hodor is thinking to confirm he is an imbecile which I can't say for Sam. edit: Also pretty sure Hodor can light a fire gg Yeah, saving a young woman and her child of being raped and possibly killed? The nerve! | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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adh
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On May 11 2013 10:14 adh wrote: Not to mention the assumption that the Lannisters pure advantage over the Tyrells is just gold mines is ludicrous. Surely they have investments in banks and other industrial industries. They also have solid and productive farm land, I dont know how well, but ive never heard anyone disparage it. So you have a family that controls the gold and has everyone in debt to them, from royal families to merchants, with large and productive land holdings. Somehow magically the Tyrells are richer? That's so dumb. You can trade gold for anything even food surprisingly. Like I said, Tywin is king practically because he is protector of the realm. So lets see the argument again. Food rises in value during winter. Gold bought him a kingdom. Gold in this case payed off and when winter is over the Tyrells will be nothing compared to the Lannisters.  Silly. | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On May 11 2013 10:14 adh wrote: That's so dumb. You can trade gold for anything even food surprisingly. Like I said, Tywin is king practically because he is protector of the realm. So lets see the argument again. Food rises in value during winter. Gold bought him a kingdom. Gold in this case payed off and when winter is over the Tyrells will be nothing compared to the Lannisters. Yes gold buys food but the Tyrells set the price. Tywin had the riverlands burned and the rest of the regions are not near as plentiful. They could ship their food from overseas but that would be very expensive. And yes the demand for food will only be so high for the winter but winter can last for years. The trick is surviving it, which means feeding your subjects/soldiers so they don't turn on you. | ||
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sigma_x
Australia285 Posts
On May 11 2013 11:23 adh wrote: He shouldn't have a problem. He has an army in King's Landing and I don't any of Joffrey's men have the balls to follow his crazy commands. Without power he is just a petulant child. Joffrey is psychopathic and the only way to knock some sense in him is to endanger his life like the battle of blackwater bay. There are definitely kids out there who have no sense of respect for anyone, and Joffrey falls into that category. Unless Tywin has some alternative to 'spanking' up his sleeve, I don't think he has any more control over Joffrey than Cersei does. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On May 11 2013 11:39 scudst0rm wrote: Yes gold buys food but the Tyrells set the price. Tywin had the riverlands burned and the rest of the regions are not near as plentiful. They could ship their food from overseas but that would be very expensive. And yes the demand for food will only be so high for the winter but winter can last for years. The trick is surviving it, which means feeding your subjects/soldiers so they don't turn on you. And most likely less then buying from the Reach, if those places recognize they can undercut the Tyrells (assuming the Tyrells try to raise prices significantly). | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On May 10 2013 07:50 CrimsonLotus wrote: Guys I have a great idea, just hear me out. How about... tier lists about the best ways to melt a wall made out of ice? i think it goes like S Tier: Massive bonfires all along the base of the wall A Tier: Have the giants mine through the wall Garbage Tier: Hairdryer, sunlight | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On May 11 2013 12:04 Whole wrote: i think it goes like S Tier: Massive bonfires all along the base of the wall A Tier: Have the giants mine through the wall Garbage Tier: Hairdryer, sunlight I dunno, Sam says that the wall weeps from the sun. i know i wouldn't weep going up against garbage tier enemies. sunlight is A tier minimum. | ||
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Selendis
Australia509 Posts
I believe economists call this argument "guns vs butter". Anyway, history tells us that in times of economic stability, gold wins hands down. So as long as Westeros's economy is in good shape, then the Lannisters can buy their food from abroad if need be. However, in times of economic depression then food wins the fight. Why? because in a depression, money isn't worth anything and you can't buy from abroad because in major depressions (eg the one preceding and following the fall of the roman empire) the trade routes disintegrate. So the Lannisters have the upper hand but only for as long as the realm is stable. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On May 11 2013 12:17 PrinceXizor wrote: I dunno, Sam says that the wall weeps from the sun. i know i wouldn't weep going up against garbage tier enemies. sunlight is A tier minimum. yea but obv the weeping just ices back up at night. | ||
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Aegon I
Canada133 Posts
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