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On April 22 2013 13:47 Balfazar wrote:
Anyone else cheer when Craster got killed? It's a shame Mormont had to go with him, the whole thing could have been better done as an organised effort by the Watch to free the women and restock their supplies before continuing back to the wall.
I killed when both Craster and Mormont got killed. Mormont should have just treated Craster like any other wildling and destroyed him and burned his keep years ago. Felt the same reaction when I read it.
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On April 22 2013 13:55 Prplppleatr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 13:52 GGQ wrote:On April 22 2013 13:46 jinorazi wrote:
bad ass fucking episode.
"never thought bennan can smell go good" ROFL
but that ploy with theon, killing 3 man just to get answers, wtf o.O Looked like what they were going for was that the dark-haired guy got a rush of perverse pleasure from trolling Theon so hard. Sort of emotional/psychological torture to go along with the physical torture. Ya, I saw it as them not getting the answers they wanted, so pretend you are his friend to get the answers and take him back for more torture
to be honest, Theon's a broken fucking dude. He did terrible things and should pay the price. That being said, these dues from the Iron Islands are horseshit, as well.
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On April 22 2013 13:56 holdthephone wrote:
what could they possibly want to know? he sacked winterfell, not much else.
Was he ever loyal to the Starks?
Did he kill Bran and Rickon?
Why did he sack winterfell?
He learned all that and more.
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seems like the slavers dont really think things through. "Well, you have absolute control of a super slave army that outnumbers our own guards. here is the batton of power, bye now"
Even if Danyaeris didnt speak Valyrian, her newly bought slave did. and she cant lie, so she would have told her new owner how hard her old owner was trolling her.
I am impressed the Tyrells. They are like a better, less evil version of the Lannisters.
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He probably never expected daenarys to be capable of something like that.
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I'm so sad that the Lord Commander Mormont didn't get to strangle the living hell out of Rast. Rest in peace you Old Bear.
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On April 22 2013 14:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
He probably never expected daenarys to be capable of something like that.
hmm does the book provide an explanation?
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dammmmm! what a chapter,,,, im so fucking hyped that im thinking going out of the street a give freedom to anyone on my path
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On April 22 2013 14:05 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 13:55 Prplppleatr wrote:On April 22 2013 13:52 GGQ wrote:On April 22 2013 13:46 jinorazi wrote:
bad ass fucking episode.
"never thought bennan can smell go good" ROFL
but that ploy with theon, killing 3 man just to get answers, wtf o.O Looked like what they were going for was that the dark-haired guy got a rush of perverse pleasure from trolling Theon so hard. Sort of emotional/psychological torture to go along with the physical torture. Ya, I saw it as them not getting the answers they wanted, so pretend you are his friend to get the answers and take him back for more torture to be honest, Theon's a broken fucking dude. He did terrible things and should pay the price. That being said, these dues from the Iron Islands are horseshit, as well.
i dont think they are from the iron islands... look at the X shaped cross that they tied theon to, its the same shape as the sigil of house bolton (a flayed man on an X-shaped cross), the guys who were sent to recapture winterfell led by Lord Boltons Bastard son in season 2.
i did some research on the actor who plays the dude who "helped" theon escape, Iwan Rheon, and it turns out his character is called Ramsay SNOW. aka hes probably the bastard of bolton and the man in charge. but i have no idea why he went through all that trouble just to get that information...
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On April 22 2013 14:26 Kalingingsong wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 14:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
He probably never expected daenarys to be capable of something like that. hmm does the book provide an explanation?
this isn't the thread for book talk!
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On April 22 2013 13:26 holdthephone wrote:
ok, real talk. handing someone a programmable army of slaves didn't sound like a bad idea? i know they didn't show the guy as smart, but he seemed to know his business. he traded all of his defenses for an ungrown dragon?
awesome scene but i was like wahhhh
He didn't know she could talk valiryan, he probably planned to offer her a discount translator after lol
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On April 22 2013 14:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
He probably never expected daenarys to be capable of something like that.
well, yes of course. just seems awfully risky. why not say "sure, thanks for the payment, well, we will deliver them to you outside the city walls in two weeks" or something like that.
The other thing that I was thinking, if she took the boat to get there, and now they are walking out into the desert, where are they walking to? I am sure as a visual effect its impressive but in a way it just reminds me of how her previous army starved to death in the deserts that seem to exist around the free cities (which raises another question, with whom do the free cities exactly trade? if they dont have a hinterland of their own, just a desert and the dothraki sea then who cares that they are trade powers. without a market there is no one to buy their stuff)
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On April 22 2013 14:31 JeosAdn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 13:26 holdthephone wrote:
ok, real talk. handing someone a programmable army of slaves didn't sound like a bad idea? i know they didn't show the guy as smart, but he seemed to know his business. he traded all of his defenses for an ungrown dragon?
awesome scene but i was like wahhhh He didn't know she could talk valiryan, he probably planned to offer her a discount translator after lol
she already has a translator. the chick he gave to her as a gift.
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As I think it through, there must be some customs/rules in the free cities regarding slaves, much like how in the North you don't harm your guests when they're under your roof. Dany probably made a LOT of enemies in the whole continent with what she just did and will find a lot of closed doors to her. Or more assassination attempts.
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On April 22 2013 14:17 Sub40APM wrote:
seems like the slavers dont really think things through. "Well, you have absolute control of a super slave army that outnumbers our own guards. here is the batton of power, bye now"
Even if Danyaeris didnt speak Valyrian, her newly bought slave did. and she cant lie, so she would have told her new owner how hard her old owner was trolling her.
I am impressed the Tyrells. They are like a better, less evil version of the Lannisters.
The allure of dragons blinded his better judgment.
Also, the poster above makes an astute observation.. it would make sense as slaving in those cities is their main trade.
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On April 22 2013 14:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
He probably never expected daenarys to be capable of something like that.
I dont think he expected her to order the slaves to kill their masters, as it goes against the tradition and whole principle of slavery.
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On April 22 2013 14:33 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 14:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
He probably never expected daenarys to be capable of something like that. The other thing that I was thinking, if she took the boat to get there, and now they are walking out into the desert, where are they walking to? I am sure as a visual effect its impressive but in a way it just reminds me of how her previous army starved to death in the deserts that seem to exist around the free cities (which raises another question, with whom do the free cities exactly trade? if they dont have a hinterland of their own, just a desert and the dothraki sea then who cares that they are trade powers. without a market there is no one to buy their stuff)
If you look at the map in the intro, the slave cities are located along the coast, so they most likely have huge harbors for trade. The Dothraki Sea is located in the heart of the continents mainland i believe
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On April 22 2013 14:36 Sandster wrote:
As I think it through, there must be some customs/rules in the free cities regarding slaves, much like how in the North you don't harm your guests when they're under your roof. Dany probably made a LOT of enemies in the whole continent with what she just did and will find a lot of closed doors to her. Or more assassination attempts.
Who gives a fuck about closed doors. Dragons will burn em down. Dany, Dany,Dany!!!
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On April 22 2013 14:26 Kalingingsong wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 14:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
He probably never expected daenarys to be capable of something like that. hmm does the book provide an explanation?
ITS A TRAP!
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