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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
On April 09 2013 00:08 -Archangel- wrote: Why is everyone calling her Queen of Thorns, I don't remember that name being given to her in the show yet?! Too many book readers in this topic again? :D There were a bunch of season 3 preveiw/hype videos on youtube where they refer to her as the Queen of Thorns, but yeah, more likely book readers. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:23 Sent. wrote: @Sandster: Loras and his troops were supporting Renly untill he died. He loved Renly so he couldn't join Stannis like others. He had to find another ally. The choice between Starks and Lannisters was pretty obvious. Except that Loras isn't in command of the Tyrell troops, you're thinking of Mace Tyrell, his father, and I doubt he made the decision because of his son's pain in losing his homosexual partner. Regardless of their failings, the Lannisters are still the richest family in Westeros, and currently sit the Iron Throne. They had nothing to gain by joining Stannis, while they could put Margaery on the throne as Queen if they join the Lannisters. | ||
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lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
How much more 'magic' is coming up? I get that the theme of the whole series is that supernatural things are slowly entering the story as 'the winter is coming up'. But how much of this transition have we seen yet? Personally, I like the dragons, climate change and magic fire. I can tolerate 'ice zombies' and shape shifters as a plot device. But for example this new 'dream sharing' / 'fortune telling' stuff really turns me off. Do I have to brace myself for a full out ice magic vs. fire sorcery fight in the future? | ||
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pzea469
United States1520 Posts
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WR4TH
United States72 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:31 pzea469 wrote: What's the matter John Snow? Never seen a T-Rex that can cartwheel before? That gave me a good laugh. :D | ||
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BAAEEMM
Germany412 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:27 lord_nibbler wrote: I have a general question for book readers that should obviously only be answered in very broad terms without spoilers. How much more 'magic' is coming up? I get that the theme of the whole series is that supernatural things are slowly entering the story as 'the winter is coming up'. But how much of this transition have we seen yet? Personally, I like the dragons, climate change and magic fire. I can tolerate 'ice zombies' and shape shifters as a plot device. But for example this new 'dream sharing' / 'fortune telling' stuff really turns me off. Do I have to brace myself for a full out ice magic vs. fire sorcery fight in the future? No full out Harry Potter-style magic duels so far. But you're going to see more stuff in the direction of the things you've already seen. That shouldn't be too big of a spoiler I hope. | ||
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Raneth
England527 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:31 pzea469 wrote: What's the matter John Snow? Never seen a T-Rex that can cartwheel before? this is soooo good  you win an internet! | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
is the joke based on what ygritte said re wargs. I dont get it otherwise :p | ||
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TripseT
United States15 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:46 Snusmumriken wrote: is the joke based on what ygritte said re wargs. I dont get it otherwise :p + Show Spoiler + Its at the start of S3:Ep1 where we meet back with Jon Snow for the first time and: Ygritte says "Whats the matter Jon Snow? Never seen a troll before?" so this clever sir (pzea469) gave us a funny. | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:51 TripseT wrote: Ygritte says "Whats the matter Jon Snow? Never seen a troll before?" so this clever sir (pzea469) gave us a funny. Oh I thought she said it about wargs but guess she said something similar. | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1964 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:32 WR4TH wrote: Watching this show on a weekly basis is torture because the hour seems to go by so quickly. Considering doing what some friends of mine do and wait till the last episode airs and then binge watch the entire season end to end. Can't wait to see what comes of Margery and Joffery. I'm just going to watch them each week, then after the season is over binge watch them all over again. | ||
Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:31 pzea469 wrote: What's the matter John Snow? Never seen a T-Rex that can cartwheel before? This gave me a hearty laugh  | ||
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jxx
Brazil307 Posts
On April 09 2013 07:27 lord_nibbler wrote: How much more 'magic' is coming up? Not much. Hope that's broad enough. Pretty awesome episode. I'm so glad they decided to give Margaery so much screen time it's so good. Her grandmother owning it up as well. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:04 Sub40APM wrote: In story stuff: Also, based on the map posted, the invasion of Winterfel by Ironborn continues to make less and less sense. Clearly Seagard, the Twins and the Northern half of hte Lanister land is where they should have gone, seems like. Theon did the invasion of Winterfell on his own if you remember from season 2. Yara even comes and tells him to come back home with her, because there was no way they could support or hold Winterfell, but Theon refused to listen. Balon had Yara take Deepwood Motte because it is next to the sea and easy to reinforce and resupply. The reason to attack them in the first place was because the Starks killed Balon's sons when he rebelled against Robert Baratheon, and he knows all the Stark armies are to the south and they are undefended. Finally, I still dont really see why the Tyrells -- or in fact any lord -- continues to be loyal to the crown. Why not declare independence, the Lannister-Crownlands clearly alone cant even handle Rob so how would they handle the other kingdoms just leaving? Well the Tyrells did leave temporarily when they were allied with Renly. Renly died and the Littlefinger convinced them to ally with the Lannisters, giving the Tyrells a queen and considerably more power in Westeros without the bloodshed needed to do a full conquest which may or may not have worked. The Greyjoys have not allied with anyone else yet, but so far they have only taken Deepwood Motte and taken and lost Winterfell. Stannis is still on his own and lost most of his army trying to take King's Landing. Catelyn's sister, Lady Lysa Arryn and the Vale have stayed out of it so far. So many of the major houses have basically done what you said. Keep in mind that most of the people who want to be king, want to be king of everything in Westeros. So if Stannis or the Tyrells wanted to be king of Westeros they would have to defeat more than just the Lannister's. They would have to beat the Starks, Greyjoys, and who ever else wouldn't submit to their rule. And why is Robb still marching around pointlessly, clearly the Lannisters wont fight him because they realized he will beat them on a field of battle so why not march to Riverrun and hold there. Perhaps he will. Robb has had a lot of success in the battles so far, but then again he hasn't faced Tywin head to head yet, and the Lannister's alone had almost twice as many men as the starks in season 1. Certainly both sides have lost men since then, so it's unclear exactly what the army sizes are, but the Lannister's also have the Tyrell armies to bolster their own now since they are allies. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
If there's book stuff later with them I guess it makes sense but that scene just confused me since nothing came of it. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
On April 09 2013 08:21 karazax wrote: I don't think you missed anything TV wise regarding Sansa and the Hound. She didn't want to go with him when he left King's Landing and deserted Joffrey's service, and that was that. Perhaps she was scared of him, or perhaps she thought it was a trick by Joffrey trying to catch her being disloyal. Or perhaps she was just counting on Littlefinger rescuing her (though I don't remember if he had told Sansa he would rescue her yet or not). Yeah, Littlefinger's offer came in the next episode. But thinking back on it, she initially refused that as well. So I guess that makes sense. | ||
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jxx
Brazil307 Posts
On April 09 2013 08:31 Noonius wrote: the lack of dragons in this episode was disturbing Not as much as the lack of tits. | ||
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