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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
Sure she's not incredibly bright like her brother or father, and she's kind of a bitch, but that's only because of how she grew up. She's been a victim of circumstance, betrothed to a man who (while perhaps a good king) was a terrible husband, while she is in love with someone else. Now her son is turning into a monster before her eyes, and it's devastating her emotionally. She's never really had control over anything in her life; she grasps at any loose ends she can get, which is why the character seems desperate and oftentimes unreasonable. Margaery I don't know as much about of course, having only seen the TV show, but it seems to me like her life could easily go down the same path as Cersei's, and we've seen nothing to suggest that she's any less of a bitch when pressed, or any less crazy. Again, it all comes down to the circumstances they've been dealt. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On April 27 2012 12:08 Cel.erity wrote: I find it interesting that everybody loves Margaery and hates Cersei, because I think they're very similar characters, at different stages of their lives. I actually like Cersei as a character. She's ambitious and practical, and nearly every scene with her in the new season, I can feel for her how she's losing control and slipping into what seems like it will be a very catastrophic breakdown. Sure she's not incredibly bright like her brother or father, and she's kind of a bitch, but that's only because of how she grew up. She's been a victim of circumstance, betrothed to a man who (while perhaps a good king) was a terrible husband, while she is in love with someone else. Now her son is turning into a monster before her eyes, and it's devastating her emotionally. She's never really had control over anything in her life; she grasps at any loose ends she can get, which is why the character seems desperate and oftentimes unreasonable. Margaery I don't know as much about of course, having only seen the TV show, but it seems to me like her life could easily go down the same path as Cersei's, and we've seen nothing to suggest that she's any less of a bitch when pressed, or any less crazy. Again, it all comes down to the circumstances they've been dealt. It's worth noting that Cersei actually wanted Robert's affection whereas Margey see Renly banging her brother as a small inconvenience and only in relation to conception of an heir. She is much more pragmatic. | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On April 27 2012 12:08 Cel.erity wrote: I find it interesting that everybody loves Margaery and hates Cersei, because I think they're very similar characters, at different stages of their lives. I actually like Cersei as a character. She's ambitious and practical, and nearly every scene with her in the new season, I can feel for her how she's losing control and slipping into what seems like it will be a very catastrophic breakdown. Sure she's not incredibly bright like her brother or father, and she's kind of a bitch, but that's only because of how she grew up. She's been a victim of circumstance, betrothed to a man who (while perhaps a good king) was a terrible husband, while she is in love with someone else. Now her son is turning into a monster before her eyes, and it's devastating her emotionally. She's never really had control over anything in her life; she grasps at any loose ends she can get, which is why the character seems desperate and oftentimes unreasonable. Margaery I don't know as much about of course, having only seen the TV show, but it seems to me like her life could easily go down the same path as Cersei's, and we've seen nothing to suggest that she's any less of a bitch when pressed, or any less crazy. Again, it all comes down to the circumstances they've been dealt. I like Cersei quite a lot. She actually has tooth for a tooth/survival of the fittest attitude, which is pretty normal for a lot of people in certain circumstances. I dont see how she is evil. She is selfish, yes, but she has other persons she cares/cared about. She lived through enough to say, that if you dont get it done yourself, nobody will do it for you. The scene with Robert where they discuss things about kingdom in Season 1, is one of my favorites, and definitely one of the most powerful ones. | ||
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GrimReefer
United States442 Posts
On April 26 2012 13:23 TabyLing wrote: were all of these proposed matches that Tyrian thought would be good and he would go with the one that Cercei was told about? no, it was a ruse to find out who was spying on him for cercei. he told everyone a different story, thereby making each person identifiable by the story he told them. | ||
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Scruff
Singapore509 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On April 27 2012 02:11 JWD wrote: Not that strange imo. Her boobs looked fantastic. Well, I feel rather guilty that I felt aroused by a woman giving birth to a smoke demon thing. It's not the most normal thing to be aroused by, even if she is pretty hot. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8277 Posts
On April 27 2012 14:09 eviltomahawk wrote: Well, I feel rather guilty that I felt aroused by a woman giving birth to a smoke demon thing. It's not the most normal thing to be aroused by, even if she is pretty hot. Don't worry. It will catch on. In 5 years time I'm sure we'll see birthing as a normal thing in porn..(lets hope not) | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
On April 27 2012 23:24 Excludos wrote: Don't worry. It will catch on. In 5 years time I'm sure we'll see birthing as a normal thing in porn..(lets hope not) Hm, yeah, really, let's hope not. I found it fairly disturbing, if anything. It was worse than in the books, of course, but I'd still say it's quite well executed for such an odd scene, hah. | ||
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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pettter
Sweden1032 Posts
On April 28 2012 04:20 GoSuChicken wrote: should i read the books, before watching the series? Not really necessary. The large cast might get confusing, but there are several resources where you can look up family- and other connections. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8277 Posts
On April 28 2012 04:20 GoSuChicken wrote: should i read the books, before watching the series? I don't think it matters. They are both awesome in their own seperate ways. You'll get to know the characters a lot better in the books, and the show does cut a lot of scenes and adds their own. But I fear the books might get boring if you read them after seeing the whole show, so I would read them first. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
On April 28 2012 04:29 Excludos wrote: I don't think it matters. They are both awesome in their own seperate ways. You'll get to know the characters a lot better in the books, and the show does cut a lot of scenes and adds their own. But I fear the books might get boring if you read them after seeing the whole show, so I would read them first. Agreed, never was able to finish the 1st book since I already knew what's going to happen. (even though there's depth and more detailed stuff in the books) | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On April 26 2012 13:31 moopie wrote: + Show Spoiler + This is so clever, Hodor made me smile, "always goes on about climate change" made me laugh out loudly. | ||
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0x64
Finland4632 Posts
I was terrified of every seen during the first season. It's a very different thing if you spoil yourself with the book. Yes, you will still enjoy the show, but no big surprise like first's seasons "wtf this can't happen" stuff | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
On April 28 2012 05:21 Maxie wrote: The books are better, and it's a pain to read them when you've already seen the "same" content in the show. For that reason, reading the first book for me was quite boring. But the other books? Sweet goddes of fantasy *drool* good point there. watching the series after reading the books is still a great experience but reading the books after watching the series might get boring. and if you don't read the books at all, you are definitely missing out! | ||
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Xayoz
Estonia373 Posts
On April 28 2012 05:31 JayJay_90 wrote: good point there. watching the series after reading the books is still a great experience but reading the books after watching the series might get boring. and if you don't read the books at all, you are definitely missing out! This. Absolutely. I would go as far as suggesting anyone to hold off from watching the show until they have read the books. This way you can get twice the enjoyment out of the series. | ||
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