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On April 28 2012 05:02 0x64 wrote:
Don't read the book first would be my suggestion.
I was terrified of every seen during the first season. It's a very different thing if you spoil yourself with the book. Yes, you will still enjoy the show, but no big surprise like first's seasons "wtf this can't happen" stuff
You get the same experience if you read the books first (and either way one is going to spoil the other). I even prefer reading first because there's a bigger build up to each wtf moment (20 pages vs ~8 min scene).
You also get to exercise your imagination picturing new characters instead of just imagining the actors from the show and reading their lines in their voice. You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show.
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I must say that the only character so far in Season 2 that I do not like is Asha. They seem to have really messed up that character. Asha's so bad ass and lively in the books, this one looks and acts like a Debby Downer.
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On April 28 2012 08:28 Chrispy wrote:
I must say that the only character so far in Season 2 that I do not like is Asha. They seem to have really messed up that character. Asha's so bad ass and lively in the books, this one looks and acts like a Debby Downer.
Aye, I pictured Asha as pretty awesome tbh. I found the interaction between her and Theon rather entertaining at times in the book, but in the show it's just blargh.
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On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:
You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show.
Hah. Examples?
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On April 28 2012 09:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:
You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show. Hah. Examples?
For me.....Catelyn.
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On April 28 2012 09:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:
You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show. Hah. Examples?
Damphair = Dam-fair
Volantis = Voltanis
These were the worst because it took me 2 books before I realized I was saying them wrong.
But I think we can agree Tyrell = Tie-rell not Tirul
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On April 28 2012 10:17 scudst0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 09:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:
You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show. Hah. Examples? Damphair = Dam-fair Volantis = Voltanis These were the worst because it took me 2 books before I realized I was saying them wrong. But I think we can agree Tyrell = Tie-rell not Tirul
Too much Artanis may have led you to Voltanis
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On April 28 2012 04:20 GoSuChicken wrote:
should i read the books, before watching the series?
I watched the first season then went out and picked up all the books and read them so now I'm like light years ahead of the show which is somewhat annoying but also awesome b/c I am filled with so much anticipation about how they are going to do things on the show. I can also explain a lot of stuff to my older brother who sometimes gets a lil lost in the huge cast of characters.
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On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 05:02 0x64 wrote:
Don't read the book first would be my suggestion.
I was terrified of every seen during the first season. It's a very different thing if you spoil yourself with the book. Yes, you will still enjoy the show, but no big surprise like first's seasons "wtf this can't happen" stuff You also get to exercise your imagination picturing new characters instead of just imagining the actors from the show and reading their lines in their voice. You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show.
A good point in favor of reading the book first. You're allowed to build your own mental image of the characters - which I later believe gives me the rights to bitch and moan when someone else's interpretation doesn't align with my own  . The wtf moments are just as wtf in the book. It's really personal preference on how you want to enjoy it.
TV : Succint. Able to present a lot of information onscreen at once. Requires little time.
Book: Depth. Able to delve into subtleties that TV can't. Requires more time.
Pardons for suffering through my analogy just a moment; TV is like being spoon fed while the book requires you to chew before swallowing. In the end, it's still the same tale(hopefully). Another point was made that watching the show first could turn you off from reading the books. I think this applies especially towards non avid readers.
Personally, I prefer the book first. There's a certain satisfaction that comes when puzzling something out for myself from the subtle clues that the author left behind. Then to compare my own ideas and interpretations with someone else. And then to finally see a fully realized world is icing on the cake. "Tywin is just like I imagined!"
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On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:
You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show.
I actually got Xaro Xhoan Daxos right. o.O
+ Show Spoiler [Robert's Rebellion speculation,…] +Read a post on r/gameofthrones the other day talking about how Rhaegar Targaryen may not have been the bad guy in Robert's Rebellion. The poster mentioned the possibility that Lyana Stark didn't love Robert Baratheon, but instead she fell in love with Rhaegar Targaryen and ran away to King's Landing with him. Everyone joined the rebellion as an opportunity to dethrone the Mad King, but Robert did it for a woman that possibly didn't love him back. Much of this is never explicitly stated, but there's some possible evidence, like Robert being the only character to have anything negative to say about Rhaegar IIRC.
The depth of the lore of ASOIAF amazes me.
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On April 28 2012 08:28 Chrispy wrote:
I must say that the only character so far in Season 2 that I do not like is Asha. They seem to have really messed up that character. Asha's so bad ass and lively in the books, this one looks and acts like a Debby Downer.
I'm glad they changed her name in the show because of this...she's a completely different character than I thought she'd be but I think that has more to do with her role in the show so far. Asha = sexy and gritty...Yara = ugly and bland.
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On April 28 2012 11:06 LoLAdriankat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:
You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show. I actually got Xaro Xhoan Daxos right. o.O + Show Spoiler [Robert's Rebellion speculation,…] +Read a post on r/gameofthrones the other day talking about how Rhaegar Targaryen may not have been the bad guy in Robert's Rebellion. The poster mentioned the possibility that Lyana Stark didn't love Robert Baratheon, but instead she fell in love with Rhaegar Targaryen and ran away to King's Landing with him. Everyone joined the rebellion as an opportunity to dethrone the Mad King, but Robert did it for a woman that possibly didn't love him back. Much of this is never explicitly stated, but there's some possible evidence, like Robert being the only character to have anything negative to say about Rhaegar IIRC.
The depth of the lore of ASOIAF amazes me.
That actually makes a lot of sense. Interesting
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Hey guys, I just started watching this today and am up to episode four. Unfortunately I haven't been able to really get into it. Is it worth me continuing on or is it unlikely that I'm going to start enjoying it if I haven't already so far?
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On April 27 2012 12:26 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 12:08 Cel.erity wrote:
I find it interesting that everybody loves Margaery and hates Cersei, because I think they're very similar characters, at different stages of their lives. I actually like Cersei as a character. She's ambitious and practical, and nearly every scene with her in the new season, I can feel for her how she's losing control and slipping into what seems like it will be a very catastrophic breakdown.
Sure she's not incredibly bright like her brother or father, and she's kind of a bitch, but that's only because of how she grew up. She's been a victim of circumstance, betrothed to a man who (while perhaps a good king) was a terrible husband, while she is in love with someone else. Now her son is turning into a monster before her eyes, and it's devastating her emotionally. She's never really had control over anything in her life; she grasps at any loose ends she can get, which is why the character seems desperate and oftentimes unreasonable.
Margaery I don't know as much about of course, having only seen the TV show, but it seems to me like her life could easily go down the same path as Cersei's, and we've seen nothing to suggest that she's any less of a bitch when pressed, or any less crazy. Again, it all comes down to the circumstances they've been dealt. I like Cersei quite a lot. She actually has tooth for a tooth/survival of the fittest attitude, which is pretty normal for a lot of people in certain circumstances. I dont see how she is evil. She is selfish, yes, but she has other persons she cares/cared about. She lived through enough to say, that if you dont get it done yourself, nobody will do it for you. The scene with Robert where they discuss things about kingdom in Season 1, is one of my favorites, and definitely one of the most powerful ones.
Firstly, Cersei doesnt give a flying crap that Joffrey is turning into a monster before her eyes, in her opinion he most certainly is looking to be a true lannister.
The reason she seems "desperate and oftentimes unreasonable" is because well, she is fumbling her way to power and basically being shown whats her true place (making babies and shuting the hell up about politics) for once and she has always been unreasonable.
The reason she has always been unreasonable is that shes actually paranoid and thinks everyone is out to screw her (and consequently the lannisters/crown/her son, etc...) therefore she will never make a deal that seems to have pleased anyone but her, her paranoia prevents her from believing any sort of compromise can be made to benefit her that doesnt involve the other party being in a severe disadvantage
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On April 28 2012 12:44 Sean Bean wrote:
Hey guys, I just started watching this today and am up to episode four. Unfortunately I haven't been able to really get into it. Is it worth me continuing on or is it unlikely that I'm going to start enjoying it if I haven't already so far?
Imo, watch a few more episodes. Shit starts to get real pretty fast.
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On April 28 2012 12:32 Elegance wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 11:06 LoLAdriankat wrote:On April 28 2012 08:23 scudst0rm wrote:
You also get the fun of mispronouncing a whole bunch of names until you hear them in the show. I actually got Xaro Xhoan Daxos right. o.O + Show Spoiler [Robert's Rebellion speculation, no una…] +Read a post on r/gameofthrones the other day talking about how Rhaegar Targaryen may not have been the bad guy in Robert's Rebellion. The poster mentioned the possibility that Lyana Stark didn't love Robert Baratheon, but instead she fell in love with Rhaegar Targaryen and ran away to King's Landing with him. Everyone joined the rebellion as an opportunity to dethrone the Mad King, but Robert did it for a woman that possibly didn't love him back. Much of this is never explicitly stated, but there's some possible evidence, like Robert being the only character to have anything negative to say about Rhaegar IIRC.
The depth of the lore of ASOIAF amazes me. That actually makes a lot of sense. Interesting
Mod Edit: spoiler spoiler spoiler
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On April 28 2012 12:44 Sean Bean wrote:
Hey guys, I just started watching this today and am up to episode four. Unfortunately I haven't been able to really get into it. Is it worth me continuing on or is it unlikely that I'm going to start enjoying it if I haven't already so far?
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If you didn't like it by the end of the first episode, you have wasted 4 hours of your time.
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On April 28 2012 14:05 woody60707 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 12:44 Sean Bean wrote:
Hey guys, I just started watching this today and am up to episode four. Unfortunately I haven't been able to really get into it. Is it worth me continuing on or is it unlikely that I'm going to start enjoying it if I haven't already so far?
User was banned for this post. If you didn't like it by the end of the first episode, you have wasted 4 hours of your time.
...Did no one realize his user name is (or was) Sean Bean?
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Jesus Christ, I laugh my ass off at that Al Gore comparision, pure genius  .
Winter is coming!
Oh, wait, or did G.R.R Martin actually fortell the future when he started to write?
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