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On April 25 2012 13:23 Adebisi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:44 p4NDemik wrote:On April 25 2012 11:11 XenOmega wrote:
Catelyn as horrible as Lori from Walking Dead? I admit that I have a hard time enduring both ^^ Not even close. Lori blows all other competition away for worst mother on television. Catelyn isn't even annoying at all. Skyler from Breaking Bad by far the worst.
Skyler has had some major fk ups but she ran the car wash pretty well. Definitely feel Cat > Sky > Lori.
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On April 25 2012 13:13 zodde wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2012 12:45 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:26 TheBanana wrote:
I'm a little disappointed at this season so far, maybe it's because season 1 was so good that my excpectations are too high.
It's like everything is moving so slowly and nothing is really happening. Status quo.
I'm hopeful we're going somewhere and will continue to watch closely to be be ready when things start happening again. ?? Have you heard of dramatic structure or plot - setting, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution - I learned about these things in elementary school. What book/movie/tv show that relies on plot have you seen that starts off with a bang and slows down throughout and ends with a mundane finale? And why do people complain/want to complain? You are creating your own errors "Joffrey is too evil, this can't be really happening" - you know nothing about Joffrey, the show is telling you whats what and you're trying to debate it like they're wrong. You don't go outside and say "God, you discolored the grass, it is supposed to be lighter, come on, grass can't be THIS dark." I will try my best to explain the episode. Joffrey was abusing Sansa, Tyrion noticed it and in order to show that Tyrion was NOT as evil as his nephew he attempted to not only HELP Sansa, but HELP his NEPHEW as well. To show that Tyrion did NOT hate his nephew (as his nephew may be beginning to believe) Tyrion thought he might buy his nephew a good time and now the show wants to show Joffrey is BEYOND help, Joffrey spits on Tyrion's gift and the show makes it quite plain that Joffrey is pushing Tyrion away AND showing that Joffrey is really quite fucked up. Try to see past the "Joffrey so BM, why does the show keep repeating that he's BM?" The show is trying to show Joffrey's relationship with his uncle falling to pieces as well as Tyrions heart for his family. Nice post, thanks for writing it down better than I could've. People are whining so much about unneccessary sex and cruelty. While I guess some scenes could have worked without whores and nudity, that is how they have chosen to show it. I don't think there is any sex scene so far that hasn't had something ,other than the sex itself, that needed to be shown. In short: The sex and excessive cruely aren't necessary for the scenes to work, but at the same time the content that's being presented in those very scenes are. As you pointed out, the scene where Joffrey tortured the whores is important to the character evolution of both Joff and Tyrion. You could argue they could've showed it in a "nicer" way for the viewers eyes, but I think it did an excellent job. Brilliant little piece of humor with the "grass is too dark" comment as well haha. On April 25 2012 13:03 Devise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:00 politik wrote:On April 25 2012 11:46 moopie wrote:On April 25 2012 09:03 beachbeachy wrote:On April 25 2012 08:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On April 25 2012 06:06 suxN wrote:
Whats with the dragons, seems like everyone wants dragons? Was the same thing with skyrim. Personally im liking this season just as much as season1, and to be honest im not missing the fights at all, actually i have reasons to believe i enjoy the series more because it lacks fights.
Then again i might be a bit special since i think lord of the rings episode 2 was really really boring movie, just because of the massive and long fightscenes. I have to agree with that there is no need to show fights. I guess people see things differently what they really want from this show. For me its Loyalty and/or Charisma. Seeing how Eddark Stark, Tyrion, Tywin and Sansa do/did. Characters I don't really like to follow right now are Robb Stark and Catalyn Stark. They seem change their position too easily which I don't like. Haha, every time I reach Catelyn in the books, I power read through it. I'd take Cat over Dany any day of the week. I like Dany's parts because she seems most likely to win in the end. (Or maybe Stannis) I hope Renly wins I like him Yeah Renly I think Renly has a bright future
what are you implying
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I'm starting to think that this Joffrey fellow is not a good guy!
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what! cat is fierce, savvy, strong, scary, loving. she's awesome!
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On April 25 2012 11:44 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:11 XenOmega wrote:
Catelyn as horrible as Lori from Walking Dead? I admit that I have a hard time enduring both ^^ Not even close. Lori blows all other competition away for worst mother on television. Catelyn isn't even annoying at all.
Lori on the god level of face punchingly bad characters. Nonsensical writing and decision making combined with one note acting (a state of permanent concern and irritation with squinty eyes for extra serious effect).
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On April 25 2012 14:08 PoopLord wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 13:13 zodde wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2012 12:45 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:26 TheBanana wrote:
I'm a little disappointed at this season so far, maybe it's because season 1 was so good that my excpectations are too high.
It's like everything is moving so slowly and nothing is really happening. Status quo.
I'm hopeful we're going somewhere and will continue to watch closely to be be ready when things start happening again. ?? Have you heard of dramatic structure or plot - setting, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution - I learned about these things in elementary school. What book/movie/tv show that relies on plot have you seen that starts off with a bang and slows down throughout and ends with a mundane finale? And why do people complain/want to complain? You are creating your own errors "Joffrey is too evil, this can't be really happening" - you know nothing about Joffrey, the show is telling you whats what and you're trying to debate it like they're wrong. You don't go outside and say "God, you discolored the grass, it is supposed to be lighter, come on, grass can't be THIS dark." I will try my best to explain the episode. Joffrey was abusing Sansa, Tyrion noticed it and in order to show that Tyrion was NOT as evil as his nephew he attempted to not only HELP Sansa, but HELP his NEPHEW as well. To show that Tyrion did NOT hate his nephew (as his nephew may be beginning to believe) Tyrion thought he might buy his nephew a good time and now the show wants to show Joffrey is BEYOND help, Joffrey spits on Tyrion's gift and the show makes it quite plain that Joffrey is pushing Tyrion away AND showing that Joffrey is really quite fucked up. Try to see past the "Joffrey so BM, why does the show keep repeating that he's BM?" The show is trying to show Joffrey's relationship with his uncle falling to pieces as well as Tyrions heart for his family. Nice post, thanks for writing it down better than I could've. People are whining so much about unneccessary sex and cruelty. While I guess some scenes could have worked without whores and nudity, that is how they have chosen to show it. I don't think there is any sex scene so far that hasn't had something ,other than the sex itself, that needed to be shown. In short: The sex and excessive cruely aren't necessary for the scenes to work, but at the same time the content that's being presented in those very scenes are. As you pointed out, the scene where Joffrey tortured the whores is important to the character evolution of both Joff and Tyrion. You could argue they could've showed it in a "nicer" way for the viewers eyes, but I think it did an excellent job. Brilliant little piece of humor with the "grass is too dark" comment as well haha. On April 25 2012 13:03 Devise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:00 politik wrote:On April 25 2012 11:46 moopie wrote:On April 25 2012 09:03 beachbeachy wrote:On April 25 2012 08:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On April 25 2012 06:06 suxN wrote:
Whats with the dragons, seems like everyone wants dragons? Was the same thing with skyrim. Personally im liking this season just as much as season1, and to be honest im not missing the fights at all, actually i have reasons to believe i enjoy the series more because it lacks fights.
Then again i might be a bit special since i think lord of the rings episode 2 was really really boring movie, just because of the massive and long fightscenes. I have to agree with that there is no need to show fights. I guess people see things differently what they really want from this show. For me its Loyalty and/or Charisma. Seeing how Eddark Stark, Tyrion, Tywin and Sansa do/did. Characters I don't really like to follow right now are Robb Stark and Catalyn Stark. They seem change their position too easily which I don't like. Haha, every time I reach Catelyn in the books, I power read through it. I'd take Cat over Dany any day of the week. I like Dany's parts because she seems most likely to win in the end. (Or maybe Stannis) I hope Renly wins I like him Yeah Renly I think Renly has a bright future what are you implying
Eh, nothing? Just hoping that he doesn't have to live in his brothers shadow anymore
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On April 25 2012 14:44 zodde wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:08 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 13:13 zodde wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2012 12:45 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:26 TheBanana wrote:
I'm a little disappointed at this season so far, maybe it's because season 1 was so good that my excpectations are too high.
It's like everything is moving so slowly and nothing is really happening. Status quo.
I'm hopeful we're going somewhere and will continue to watch closely to be be ready when things start happening again. ?? Have you heard of dramatic structure or plot - setting, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution - I learned about these things in elementary school. What book/movie/tv show that relies on plot have you seen that starts off with a bang and slows down throughout and ends with a mundane finale? And why do people complain/want to complain? You are creating your own errors "Joffrey is too evil, this can't be really happening" - you know nothing about Joffrey, the show is telling you whats what and you're trying to debate it like they're wrong. You don't go outside and say "God, you discolored the grass, it is supposed to be lighter, come on, grass can't be THIS dark." I will try my best to explain the episode. Joffrey was abusing Sansa, Tyrion noticed it and in order to show that Tyrion was NOT as evil as his nephew he attempted to not only HELP Sansa, but HELP his NEPHEW as well. To show that Tyrion did NOT hate his nephew (as his nephew may be beginning to believe) Tyrion thought he might buy his nephew a good time and now the show wants to show Joffrey is BEYOND help, Joffrey spits on Tyrion's gift and the show makes it quite plain that Joffrey is pushing Tyrion away AND showing that Joffrey is really quite fucked up. Try to see past the "Joffrey so BM, why does the show keep repeating that he's BM?" The show is trying to show Joffrey's relationship with his uncle falling to pieces as well as Tyrions heart for his family. Nice post, thanks for writing it down better than I could've. People are whining so much about unneccessary sex and cruelty. While I guess some scenes could have worked without whores and nudity, that is how they have chosen to show it. I don't think there is any sex scene so far that hasn't had something ,other than the sex itself, that needed to be shown. In short: The sex and excessive cruely aren't necessary for the scenes to work, but at the same time the content that's being presented in those very scenes are. As you pointed out, the scene where Joffrey tortured the whores is important to the character evolution of both Joff and Tyrion. You could argue they could've showed it in a "nicer" way for the viewers eyes, but I think it did an excellent job. Brilliant little piece of humor with the "grass is too dark" comment as well haha. On April 25 2012 13:03 Devise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:00 politik wrote:On April 25 2012 11:46 moopie wrote:On April 25 2012 09:03 beachbeachy wrote:On April 25 2012 08:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On April 25 2012 06:06 suxN wrote:
Whats with the dragons, seems like everyone wants dragons? Was the same thing with skyrim. Personally im liking this season just as much as season1, and to be honest im not missing the fights at all, actually i have reasons to believe i enjoy the series more because it lacks fights.
Then again i might be a bit special since i think lord of the rings episode 2 was really really boring movie, just because of the massive and long fightscenes. I have to agree with that there is no need to show fights. I guess people see things differently what they really want from this show. For me its Loyalty and/or Charisma. Seeing how Eddark Stark, Tyrion, Tywin and Sansa do/did. Characters I don't really like to follow right now are Robb Stark and Catalyn Stark. They seem change their position too easily which I don't like. Haha, every time I reach Catelyn in the books, I power read through it. I'd take Cat over Dany any day of the week. I like Dany's parts because she seems most likely to win in the end. (Or maybe Stannis) I hope Renly wins I like him Yeah Renly I think Renly has a bright future what are you implying Eh, nothing? Just hoping that he doesn't have to live in his brothers shadow anymore
hahahahahaha
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After episode 1 I thought this season would move too quickly to enjoy (there are so many disjointed stories now! I can see why the books are so fat!) but I am getting used to the pacing and I really like the direction things are headed — what with the terrible Queen being put in her place by Tyrion and Robb owning Lannister armies.
Thoughts on last episode:
- Joffrey isn't human
- The eldest living Borathian brother (I'm so terrible with all of their names) is probably in way over his head with this witch-woman. Whatever she just gave birth to (!!! I'm so curious) will surely destroy Renly, but will it also destroy its father before he can tak the throne?
- Renly's wife is getting a lot of screen time this season, but I have no idea who she is. Did we meet her during s1? Anyway, I'm a fan. What a practical woman.
- The youngest Stark girl just happening to come into the service of Big Daddy Lannister is just a little too "small world" for me — but hey, this is fantasy. I just wonder how long she can possibly hang around him before someone recognizes her. On the show, it's always seemed that important figures in these bazillion houses recognize each other right away!
- Daenerys has too much pride and needs to be taken down a few more notches, apparently
- Why didn't Robb ask for some identifying information from that cute medic? Can he claim no spoils of war?
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we'll see. if cat turns over jaime for sansa, she'll be up there with lori and skyler, but atm she's not that far gone.
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On April 25 2012 14:46 Goatlust88 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:44 zodde wrote:On April 25 2012 14:08 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 13:13 zodde wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2012 12:45 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:26 TheBanana wrote:
I'm a little disappointed at this season so far, maybe it's because season 1 was so good that my excpectations are too high.
It's like everything is moving so slowly and nothing is really happening. Status quo.
I'm hopeful we're going somewhere and will continue to watch closely to be be ready when things start happening again. ?? Have you heard of dramatic structure or plot - setting, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution - I learned about these things in elementary school. What book/movie/tv show that relies on plot have you seen that starts off with a bang and slows down throughout and ends with a mundane finale? And why do people complain/want to complain? You are creating your own errors "Joffrey is too evil, this can't be really happening" - you know nothing about Joffrey, the show is telling you whats what and you're trying to debate it like they're wrong. You don't go outside and say "God, you discolored the grass, it is supposed to be lighter, come on, grass can't be THIS dark." I will try my best to explain the episode. Joffrey was abusing Sansa, Tyrion noticed it and in order to show that Tyrion was NOT as evil as his nephew he attempted to not only HELP Sansa, but HELP his NEPHEW as well. To show that Tyrion did NOT hate his nephew (as his nephew may be beginning to believe) Tyrion thought he might buy his nephew a good time and now the show wants to show Joffrey is BEYOND help, Joffrey spits on Tyrion's gift and the show makes it quite plain that Joffrey is pushing Tyrion away AND showing that Joffrey is really quite fucked up. Try to see past the "Joffrey so BM, why does the show keep repeating that he's BM?" The show is trying to show Joffrey's relationship with his uncle falling to pieces as well as Tyrions heart for his family. Nice post, thanks for writing it down better than I could've. People are whining so much about unneccessary sex and cruelty. While I guess some scenes could have worked without whores and nudity, that is how they have chosen to show it. I don't think there is any sex scene so far that hasn't had something ,other than the sex itself, that needed to be shown. In short: The sex and excessive cruely aren't necessary for the scenes to work, but at the same time the content that's being presented in those very scenes are. As you pointed out, the scene where Joffrey tortured the whores is important to the character evolution of both Joff and Tyrion. You could argue they could've showed it in a "nicer" way for the viewers eyes, but I think it did an excellent job. Brilliant little piece of humor with the "grass is too dark" comment as well haha. On April 25 2012 13:03 Devise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:00 politik wrote:On April 25 2012 11:46 moopie wrote:On April 25 2012 09:03 beachbeachy wrote:On April 25 2012 08:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On April 25 2012 06:06 suxN wrote:
Whats with the dragons, seems like everyone wants dragons? Was the same thing with skyrim. Personally im liking this season just as much as season1, and to be honest im not missing the fights at all, actually i have reasons to believe i enjoy the series more because it lacks fights.
Then again i might be a bit special since i think lord of the rings episode 2 was really really boring movie, just because of the massive and long fightscenes. I have to agree with that there is no need to show fights. I guess people see things differently what they really want from this show. For me its Loyalty and/or Charisma. Seeing how Eddark Stark, Tyrion, Tywin and Sansa do/did. Characters I don't really like to follow right now are Robb Stark and Catalyn Stark. They seem change their position too easily which I don't like. Haha, every time I reach Catelyn in the books, I power read through it. I'd take Cat over Dany any day of the week. I like Dany's parts because she seems most likely to win in the end. (Or maybe Stannis) I hope Renly wins I like him Yeah Renly I think Renly has a bright future what are you implying Eh, nothing? Just hoping that he doesn't have to live in his brothers shadow anymore hahahahahaha
guys, stop making light of Renly
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On April 25 2012 14:51 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:46 Goatlust88 wrote:On April 25 2012 14:44 zodde wrote:On April 25 2012 14:08 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 13:13 zodde wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2012 12:45 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:26 TheBanana wrote:
I'm a little disappointed at this season so far, maybe it's because season 1 was so good that my excpectations are too high.
It's like everything is moving so slowly and nothing is really happening. Status quo.
I'm hopeful we're going somewhere and will continue to watch closely to be be ready when things start happening again. ?? Have you heard of dramatic structure or plot - setting, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution - I learned about these things in elementary school. What book/movie/tv show that relies on plot have you seen that starts off with a bang and slows down throughout and ends with a mundane finale? And why do people complain/want to complain? You are creating your own errors "Joffrey is too evil, this can't be really happening" - you know nothing about Joffrey, the show is telling you whats what and you're trying to debate it like they're wrong. You don't go outside and say "God, you discolored the grass, it is supposed to be lighter, come on, grass can't be THIS dark." I will try my best to explain the episode. Joffrey was abusing Sansa, Tyrion noticed it and in order to show that Tyrion was NOT as evil as his nephew he attempted to not only HELP Sansa, but HELP his NEPHEW as well. To show that Tyrion did NOT hate his nephew (as his nephew may be beginning to believe) Tyrion thought he might buy his nephew a good time and now the show wants to show Joffrey is BEYOND help, Joffrey spits on Tyrion's gift and the show makes it quite plain that Joffrey is pushing Tyrion away AND showing that Joffrey is really quite fucked up. Try to see past the "Joffrey so BM, why does the show keep repeating that he's BM?" The show is trying to show Joffrey's relationship with his uncle falling to pieces as well as Tyrions heart for his family. Nice post, thanks for writing it down better than I could've. People are whining so much about unneccessary sex and cruelty. While I guess some scenes could have worked without whores and nudity, that is how they have chosen to show it. I don't think there is any sex scene so far that hasn't had something ,other than the sex itself, that needed to be shown. In short: The sex and excessive cruely aren't necessary for the scenes to work, but at the same time the content that's being presented in those very scenes are. As you pointed out, the scene where Joffrey tortured the whores is important to the character evolution of both Joff and Tyrion. You could argue they could've showed it in a "nicer" way for the viewers eyes, but I think it did an excellent job. Brilliant little piece of humor with the "grass is too dark" comment as well haha. On April 25 2012 13:03 Devise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:00 politik wrote:On April 25 2012 11:46 moopie wrote:On April 25 2012 09:03 beachbeachy wrote:On April 25 2012 08:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On April 25 2012 06:06 suxN wrote:
Whats with the dragons, seems like everyone wants dragons? Was the same thing with skyrim. Personally im liking this season just as much as season1, and to be honest im not missing the fights at all, actually i have reasons to believe i enjoy the series more because it lacks fights.
Then again i might be a bit special since i think lord of the rings episode 2 was really really boring movie, just because of the massive and long fightscenes. I have to agree with that there is no need to show fights. I guess people see things differently what they really want from this show. For me its Loyalty and/or Charisma. Seeing how Eddark Stark, Tyrion, Tywin and Sansa do/did. Characters I don't really like to follow right now are Robb Stark and Catalyn Stark. They seem change their position too easily which I don't like. Haha, every time I reach Catelyn in the books, I power read through it. I'd take Cat over Dany any day of the week. I like Dany's parts because she seems most likely to win in the end. (Or maybe Stannis) I hope Renly wins I like him Yeah Renly I think Renly has a bright future what are you implying Eh, nothing? Just hoping that he doesn't have to live in his brothers shadow anymore hahahahahaha guys, stop making light of Renly
He does have a pretty sweet set of armor though the antler crown is a little much.
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On April 25 2012 14:48 JWD wrote:- Renly's wife is getting a lot of screen time this season, but I have no idea who she is. Did we meet her during s1? Anyway, I'm a fan. What a practical woman.
- Why didn't Robb ask for some identifying information from that cute medic? Can he claim no spoils of war?
1) No, she wasn't featured in season 1 at all. Margaery is Loras' (The Knight of Flowers) sister both of whom's family is rather wealthy (House Tyrell is Warden of Dorne in the South) and have played a major role in giving Renly the political and military means to make a strong bid for the throne.
2) He's building up the courage? I dk. But after that encounter it seems like they're surely to meet again soon.
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On April 25 2012 14:48 JWD wrote:After episode 1 I thought this season would move too quickly to enjoy (there are so many disjointed stories now! I can see why the books are so fat!) but I am getting used to the pacing and I really like the direction things are headed — what with the terrible Queen being put in her place by Tyrion and Robb owning Lannister armies. Thoughts on last episode: - Joffrey isn't human
- The eldest Borathian (I'm so terrible with all of their names) is probably in way over his head with this witch-woman. Whatever she just gave birth to (!!! I'm so curious) will surely destroy Renly, but will it also destroy its father before he can tak the throne?
- Renly's wife is getting a lot of screen time this season, but I have no idea who she is. Did we meet her during s1? Anyway, I'm a fan. What a practical woman.
- The youngest Stark just happening to come into the service of Big Daddy Lannister is just a little too "small world" for me — but hey, this is fantasy. I just wonder how long she can possibly hang around him before someone recognizes her. On the show, it's always seemed that important figures in these bazillion houses recognize each other right away!
- Daenerys has too much pride and needs to be taken down a few more notches, apparently
- Why didn't Robb ask for some identifying information from that cute medic? Can he claim no spoils of war?
Dunno about Renlys wife, can't remember if she was in S1 (think I need to rewatch it).
Totally agree on the Arya/Tywin thing, it's just soooo unlikely that she'd end up in Tywins service :O And yeah, someone should recognize her. Then on the other side, she's just a young girl, she probably haven't met many people that far away from her home. And on top of that, while they know that the youngest Stark girl is on the run, no one is going to look after her so close to the Lannisters. They probably think that Arya is hiding somewhere as far as possible from them, while she's busy pouring wine for Big Daddy Lannister (nice nickname btw, I'll steal it).
I'm deeply in love with Dany, so I can't agree with you here. She should feed her dragons and burn the whole world to the ground. WAR Daenerys!
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On April 25 2012 14:57 p4NDemik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:48 JWD wrote:- Renly's wife is getting a lot of screen time this season, but I have no idea who she is. Did we meet her during s1? Anyway, I'm a fan. What a practical woman.
- Why didn't Robb ask for some identifying information from that cute medic? Can he claim no spoils of war?
1) No, she wasn't featured in season 1 at all. Margaery is Loras' (The Knight of Flowers) sister both of whom's family is rather wealthy (House Tyrell is Warden of Dorne in the South) and have played a major role in giving Renly the political and military means to make a strong bid for the throne. 2) He's building up the courage? I dk. But after that encounter it seems like they're surely to meet again soon.
House Tyrell rules over the Reach, not Dorne.
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United States13896 Posts
Ah. I knew I'd fuck that up. Who's the warden of dorne again? Feels like that's an area that's gone mostly unrepresented.
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On April 25 2012 14:51 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:46 Goatlust88 wrote:On April 25 2012 14:44 zodde wrote:On April 25 2012 14:08 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 13:13 zodde wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 25 2012 12:45 Sprungjeezy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:26 TheBanana wrote:
I'm a little disappointed at this season so far, maybe it's because season 1 was so good that my excpectations are too high.
It's like everything is moving so slowly and nothing is really happening. Status quo.
I'm hopeful we're going somewhere and will continue to watch closely to be be ready when things start happening again. ?? Have you heard of dramatic structure or plot - setting, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution - I learned about these things in elementary school. What book/movie/tv show that relies on plot have you seen that starts off with a bang and slows down throughout and ends with a mundane finale? And why do people complain/want to complain? You are creating your own errors "Joffrey is too evil, this can't be really happening" - you know nothing about Joffrey, the show is telling you whats what and you're trying to debate it like they're wrong. You don't go outside and say "God, you discolored the grass, it is supposed to be lighter, come on, grass can't be THIS dark." I will try my best to explain the episode. Joffrey was abusing Sansa, Tyrion noticed it and in order to show that Tyrion was NOT as evil as his nephew he attempted to not only HELP Sansa, but HELP his NEPHEW as well. To show that Tyrion did NOT hate his nephew (as his nephew may be beginning to believe) Tyrion thought he might buy his nephew a good time and now the show wants to show Joffrey is BEYOND help, Joffrey spits on Tyrion's gift and the show makes it quite plain that Joffrey is pushing Tyrion away AND showing that Joffrey is really quite fucked up. Try to see past the "Joffrey so BM, why does the show keep repeating that he's BM?" The show is trying to show Joffrey's relationship with his uncle falling to pieces as well as Tyrions heart for his family. Nice post, thanks for writing it down better than I could've. People are whining so much about unneccessary sex and cruelty. While I guess some scenes could have worked without whores and nudity, that is how they have chosen to show it. I don't think there is any sex scene so far that hasn't had something ,other than the sex itself, that needed to be shown. In short: The sex and excessive cruely aren't necessary for the scenes to work, but at the same time the content that's being presented in those very scenes are. As you pointed out, the scene where Joffrey tortured the whores is important to the character evolution of both Joff and Tyrion. You could argue they could've showed it in a "nicer" way for the viewers eyes, but I think it did an excellent job. Brilliant little piece of humor with the "grass is too dark" comment as well haha. On April 25 2012 13:03 Devise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:00 politik wrote:On April 25 2012 11:46 moopie wrote:On April 25 2012 09:03 beachbeachy wrote:On April 25 2012 08:01 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On April 25 2012 06:06 suxN wrote:
Whats with the dragons, seems like everyone wants dragons? Was the same thing with skyrim. Personally im liking this season just as much as season1, and to be honest im not missing the fights at all, actually i have reasons to believe i enjoy the series more because it lacks fights.
Then again i might be a bit special since i think lord of the rings episode 2 was really really boring movie, just because of the massive and long fightscenes. I have to agree with that there is no need to show fights. I guess people see things differently what they really want from this show. For me its Loyalty and/or Charisma. Seeing how Eddark Stark, Tyrion, Tywin and Sansa do/did. Characters I don't really like to follow right now are Robb Stark and Catalyn Stark. They seem change their position too easily which I don't like. Haha, every time I reach Catelyn in the books, I power read through it. I'd take Cat over Dany any day of the week. I like Dany's parts because she seems most likely to win in the end. (Or maybe Stannis) I hope Renly wins I like him Yeah Renly I think Renly has a bright future what are you implying Eh, nothing? Just hoping that he doesn't have to live in his brothers shadow anymore hahahahahaha guys, stop making light of Renly
Yeah! He'll fuck that shadowy monster hard!
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On April 25 2012 14:57 zodde wrote:
I'm deeply in love with Dany, so I can't agree with you here. She should feed her dragons and burn the whole world to the ground. WAR Daenerys!
oh, I'm in love alright! But despite everything she's been through, she still seems more pouty little girl than Queen. I mean, where's the cunning? I think a real leader would never have risked all of her crew dying in a desert because someone showed a hint of doubt about her dragons. The rant about destroying that city first smacked of a child's tantrum. She's kinda helpless.
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On April 25 2012 15:01 p4NDemik wrote:
Ah. I knew I'd fuck that up. Who's the warden of dorne again? Feels like that's an area that's gone mostly unrepresented.
The Martells rule over Dorne (Tyrion told Pycelle he was going to send princess Myrcella to Dorne to form an alliance with the Martells). House Martell It is mostly unrepresented until later in the story.
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On April 25 2012 14:57 p4NDemik wrote:
2) He's building up the courage? I dk. But after that encounter it seems like they're surely to meet again soon.
No way man. I think Robb was a bit taken aback by her boldness, but he was swagging all over that battlefield. Guy is on a huge roll and strolling over the dead bodies of his enemies in full armor like a fucking badass of all badasses, and he doesn't have the confidence to make a move on a peasant woman? I don't buy it.
Definitely agree that there is unfinished business there, though. I'm sure they'll run into each other again somehow...
But shouldn't Robb be marrying strategically? She was more slampiece material.
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