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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On April 23 2012 19:42 Highways wrote: Don't like all this magic. Making it so unrealistic now. To be fair we know magic exists in this world - recall the first ten minutes of the first episode of season 1. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On April 23 2012 21:55 Excludos wrote: That would completely ruin the feel of the series. Most people in westeros doesn't believe in magic, and you are hearing their story. Having the woman give birth to a shadow fiend demon thingie is just as much "wtf?!" moment for Davos as it is for the viewers. This isn't a world where mages are placed on every corner to throw fireballs at each other. But it is a world where mystical things can happen. Ah okay, well I guess it did the job of taking me aback. Well I'll still keep watching, at least the 'sex scene' was more useful for the plot than usual this time. | ||
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xXFireandIceXx
Canada4296 Posts
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
I just hope this series ends (not just tv series) that Targaryen claims throne back and we get "happy ending". As it seems its going that path anyways (dragons anyone?). | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22095 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:14 Too_MuchZerg wrote: Well I got feeling that Season 1 and early season 2 that people living in seven kingdoms don't really believe magic anymore and they are doubting dragons ever existing too (at least some do, according to tv series). Now that they bring magic back they go away from season 1 which was all about claim of throne. Now that there are five kings its harder to see whats their point actually. One king wants something but another completely different thing. I just hope this series ends (not just tv series) that Targaryen claims throne back and we get "happy ending". As it seems its going that path anyways (dragons anyone?). While magic is indeed something old and forgotten and probably not even believed, people know dragons are infact very real. Im not entiretly sure its shown in the show or if it was in the book but during season 1 Arya finds the skulls of the old dragons in the cellars of Kingslanding. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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Olsson
Sweden931 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:19 Gorsameth wrote: While magic is indeed something old and forgotten and probably not even believed, people know dragons are infact very real. Im not entiretly sure its shown in the show or if it was in the book but during season 1 Arya finds the skulls of the old dragons in the cellars of Kingslanding. Magic (and dragons) being gone and comming back is kinda a theme of the series. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:32 Olsson wrote: Why didn't she just show them the fucking dragons so they could enter the entire scene didn't make sense what so ever. CGI costs money bro. But seriously, she doesn't want to enter a city in a low position. | ||
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Olsson
Sweden931 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:34 Zorkmid wrote: CGI costs money bro. But seriously, she doesn't want to enter a city in a low position. How does that change her position? The only reason they were left in from the start was because some of them (or the guy) believed that she had the dragon, so assuming that she had them it wouldn't change her position in anyway. Also seriously Melisandra queefing out a puff of smoke wtf. | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:38 Olsson wrote: How does that change her position? The only reason they were left in from the start was because some of them (or the guy) believed that she had the dragon, so assuming that she had them it wouldn't change her position in anyway. Also seriously Melisandra queefing out a puff of smoke wtf. If you start obeying commands from merchants, it's kind of hard to style yourself a Queen. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:38 Olsson wrote: How does that change her position? The only reason they were left in from the start was because some of them (or the guy) believed that she had the dragon, so assuming that she had them it wouldn't change her position in anyway. Also seriously Melisandra queefing out a puff of smoke wtf. My opinion of the desert scene was that she was very protective of her dragons and that showing them to people would make them greedy and either 1) kill them, or 2) force Dany to give the dragons away. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:19 Gorsameth wrote: While magic is indeed something old and forgotten and probably not even believed, people know dragons are infact very real. Im not entiretly sure its shown in the show or if it was in the book but during season 1 Arya finds the skulls of the old dragons in the cellars of Kingslanding. Yes but does common people still believe that dragons existed? Arya did find those but I don't think Red Keep is place where common people go to see skulls. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
 I know he cares about Caetlyn, but question is would he lie to get her or would he tell the truth to get her? hmm... | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:58 Too_MuchZerg wrote: Yes but does common people still believe that dragons existed? Arya did find those but I don't think Red Keep is place where common people go to see skulls. Yes it is common knowledge. Dragons was how the Targaryens came into power. Ruins burned by Drgaons can be seen by everyone. Imagine if in our world Elephants become extinct. We would still know in 100 years that they existed. On April 23 2012 23:00 eYeball wrote: Littlefinger is my favourite character but it's so hard to follow him sometimes, if its just a plan of his masterplan or if he's getting emotional. So hard to separate which one it is at some points I feel, except episode 3 when he got really mad at Tyrion I know he cares about Caetlyn, but question is would he lie to get her or would he tell the truth to get her? hmm... Well he straight out lied to her about Arya. If he really cared about her he would not do that I guess. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On April 23 2012 22:32 Olsson wrote: Why didn't she just show them the fucking dragons so they could enter the entire scene didn't make sense what so ever. Because her Dragons are tiny and weak (she doesn't even know what they eat). The rest of her companions are starved and barely standing after months trekking across a desert, and there's a bare handful of them at that. There's nothing stopping the council from just taking her Dragons from her if they realise they aren't a threat in the slightest. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On April 23 2012 23:02 Redox wrote: Yes it is common knowledge. Dragons was how the Targaryens came into power. Ruins burned by Drgaons can be seen by everyone. Imagine if in our world Elephants become extinct. We would still know in 100 years that they existed. Well people don't believe white walkers exist so I guess it depends how long time goes on. Even the Thirteen guys of Qarth asked to see dragons and didn't believe it (only one guy did) at all. Elephants are well different thing but let say they existed 1000 years ago and we have some only tales about it, would you believe it still? | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 23 2012 23:24 Too_MuchZerg wrote: Well people don't believe white walkers exist so I guess it depends how long time goes on. Even the Thirteen guys of Qarth asked to see dragons and didn't believe it (only one guy did) at all. Elephants are well different thing but let say they existed 1000 years ago and we have some only tales about it, would you believe it still? Yeah of course its all a question of elapsed time. Dragons are relatively recent. They have changed history not that long ago. And I guess their remains can stll be seen here and there. Like the eggs that were gifted to Dany. Noone doubted their authenticity, it was just believed they were dead. But they also seem to believe that magic existed in the past judging from what the measter said to Bran. Remember even in the middle ages peole somewhat believed in sorcery and stuff, even if it never existed. So it is not hard to imagine that in a medieval like world where magic really existed not that long ago or might still exist in far away places that people really believe in it. | ||
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