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sharkie
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The approach to the battle is very simplistic, despite it being the most important event in the series. So far its: "Here is our giant army, we will hold them as much as we can and we will die anyways." The Lanisters didn't come ? Whatever - "We still will hold them as much as we can and we will die anyways". What role do the dragons play ? How are they going to address Viserion ? Also why are they expecting the Night king to come for Bran before everyone else is dead ? As long as I remember he is not in a hurry, so he can take his time. If he is smart he will wait his army to do the work and then do whatever he wants. Even better he will wait them to starve in the snow for 2 weeks and then just walk all over them. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 22 2019 11:42 TheTenthDoc wrote: Did anyone else find that + Show Spoiler + Ghost scene super weird? Nobody in the scene referred to him or mentioned his presence. Was he just edited in in post after they realized "oh crap we forgot him" or a scene with him got cut? Other than that really taking me out of it, the episode was mostly fine, though there was a bit too much foreshadowing (or misdirection) when it comes to + Show Spoiler + the crypts. I mean, seriously, an army of the dead is attacking with the power to raise more dead and you put your women and children in an area surrounded by the dead? Spooky scary skellingtons indeed. Don't worry, they got that little girl and Tyrion to protect them  | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 22 2019 18:50 Pr0wler wrote: Two episodes and we don't know their strategy for the fight. Aside from Bran sitting in the garden enjoying the view while waiting someone to come. The approach to the battle is very simplistic, despite it being the most important even in the series. So far its: "Here is our giant army, we will hold them as much as we can and we will die anyways." The Lanisters didn't come ? Whatever - "We still will hold them as much as we can and we will die anyways". What role do the dragons play ? How are they going to address Viserion ? Also why are they expecting the Night king to come for Bran before everyone else is dead ? As long as I remember he is not in a hurry, so he can take his time. If he is smart he will wait his army to do the work and then do whatever he wants. Even better he will wait them to starve in the snow for 2 weeks and then just walk all over them. The whole plan around keeping Dragons back and fighting the army without them was hilarious. Obvious trick to cut down on costs of making CGI Dragons that do something. But this show stopped making sense even before they ran out of books to | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
Luckily I have some episodes of Love, Death & Robots left, which was quite amazing so far. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
Would it kill Jon to tell Arya melisandre brought him back? Arya knows her too and could reply with how she sees her. And maybe even tell that to Gendry later on too. And then on the good dialogs, every time its about to get spicy they get interrupted by someone else, breaking the tension...so infuriating. Still good episode overall though. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On April 22 2019 14:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Death list for ep 3 if I had to guess: Greyworm (I'd bet money on this one) Jorah Gendry Davos Theon Beric Brienne is on the borderline. She was finally knighted after all... I think Aria is also dead, too sure of herself, or at least either her or Lianna, but I think that at least 1 stark has to die and it won't be Sansa, Bran could also die since I assume they are losing next week. Also that 3rd night watch guy is also dead. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On April 22 2019 20:35 Yhamm wrote: so, Jon's saying "my real name is Aegon Targaryen", but why would Rhaegar name his 3rd child Aegon which was already the name of his 2nd child? :x do Rhaenys & Aegon (his fist) exist in the show? It’s general consensus that they opted for a recognizably targ name for average joe viewers to understand. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 22 2019 20:35 Yhamm wrote: so, Jon's saying "my real name is Aegon Targaryen", but why would Rhaegar name his 3rd child Aegon which was already the name of his 2nd child? :x do Rhaenys & Aegon (his fist) exist in the show? I am not sure if the children are ever given a name in the show, but Oberyn mentions them at least. About the episode, it was fine, imo better than the first episode at least. I still think they aren't really capable of writing any absolutely great dialogue scene anymore which sticks with you, but there were some decent ones in there (like when brienne gets knighted). There would be the potential for other good ones but they always make sure these get interrupted, either to save it for later or because they don't really know how to execute it (sansa and dany, dany and jon). Arya's sexscene i could have lived without, didn't believe this sexual tension for one second. Fine episode in a vacuum, a little disappointing one considering we are in the final season. Next week will be a big battle episode, which will probably be epic, but their battle strategy is kinda suspect, we'll see how it plays out though^^ | ||
zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On April 20 2019 02:57 TheFish7 wrote: Yea there's no way it can be ignored. The Targaryens have been marrying brother to sister and cousin to cousin since forever. Dany's own parents were siblings. That is all foreshadowing what's happening now. I think it's not a coincidence that they have ended up in some accidental incest. Almost like it's a part of the prophecy, or maybe the gods playing a joke on them. Two episodes in and still no mention. It's all about the damn throne. Dany's reaction: But this means .. you are before me in line for the throne!! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 22 2019 13:40 crms wrote: I think that's what they're setting up at this point. After elaborating what the night king wants, how bran is 'human history' personified and why the night king seeks him out. They will sacrifice their history to secure their future. My bet is that it doesn’t kill the night king, but someone makes him weak or able to be killed. Or he takes Bran’s power of foresight, which is somehow tainted by Bran to leading the Night King down a path that lets humanity destroy him. On April 22 2019 19:28 -Archangel- wrote: The whole plan around keeping Dragons back and fighting the army without them was hilarious. Obvious trick to cut down on costs of making CGI Dragons that do something. But this show stopped making sense even before they ran out of books to I would hold back my 2 dragons to fight the enemy's one dragon. Especially when the enemy has magic ice spears that that turn dragons until undead dragons by way of murder. Also: I bet the crypts are really safe. Totally safe. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
Again nothing of consequence happens. We see a bunch more shot/reverse-shot 1on1 meetups all of which should have been handled in the previous episode. The meeting in the war room could have been several characters discussing about what their strategy should be, surely all these characters from incredibly different walks of life would disagree at least a little on how they should handle the likely final battle of their lives? Nope, bran comes up with some plan and thats what theyre going to do. No conflict, no discussion, nothing. They didnt even mention the ice dragon... why does no one seem to be worried about that? Also was it just me or did this episode have really strange sound mixing? In the span of a few lines in the same scene characters went from sounding normal to sounding like theyre in a large hall with echo, to sounding like theyre right new to a microphone. Bizarre honestly. Another thing: this episode was really blatantly using the setup for helms deep in Lotr as inspiration. Some might call it an homage, but it felt more like creative bankruptcy. Like they had no idea how to do a setup for such a hopeless battle so they just had to copy an actually good film. The shrill contrast with the quality of lotr made this episode fall flat on its face even more. Tolkien and george lucas knew better than to include quipy one-liners and a 'funny' wildling who tells some story about sucking on a giants tit before spilling milk all over himself in the scenes leading up to helms deep. The tone is so all over the place I have a hard time feeling any tension for the fight with the white walkers. Dont even get me started on arya the 'badass', all her scenes are a continuous stream of cringe. Yes im upset | ||
KwarK
United States44289 Posts
On April 22 2019 21:44 zatic wrote: Two episodes in and still no mention. It's all about the damn throne. Dany's reaction: But this means .. you are before me in line for the throne!! And not even for the right reason. She goes "you're the last male Targaryen" when really the issue is that it passes to Rhaegar and then to his legitimate kids before reverting up to Rhaegar's siblings if it reaches a dead end. That shit frustrates me, he's not ahead of her because he's a boy, he's ahead of her because Rhaegar was. The writers apparently don't have a working understanding of succession. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On April 22 2019 23:39 solidbebe wrote: The writing is so flat and the direction is so wooden. 90% of characters in scenes now are just blank serious face. With the exceptions being brienne's smile after being knighted and jamie who is practically the only only left who feels like an actual human being. The rest of the cast are just line delivery machines. Not really blaming the actors for it though. Any time some actual tension shows up the scene ends: sansa confronting dany about the north had the potential to become a very interesting scene which finally brings their silent conflict above the table. Of course it ends right as sansa confronts dany. Too difficult to write I guess. Second time with dany and jon, the actual GRAND REVEAL of jons heritage thats been hanging in the air for several seasons. Yet nothing happens. As soon as dany mentions him being and line for the throne before her and they could actually have some meaningful dialogue, the horn blows. Saved by the be- uuuh whitewalkers. Again nothing of consequence happens. We see a bunch more shot/reverse-shot 1on1 meetups all of which should have been handled in the previous episode. The meeting in the war room could have been several characters discussing about what their strategy should be, surely all these characters from incredibly different walks of life would disagree at least a little on how they should handle the likely final battle of their lives? Nope, bran comes up with some plan and thats what theyre going to do. No conflict, no discussion, nothing. They didnt even mention the ice dragon... why does no one seem to be worried about that? Also was it just me or did this episode have really strange sound mixing? In the span of a few lines in the same scene characters went from sounding normal to sounding like theyre in a large hall with echo, to sounding like theyre right new to a microphone. Bizarre honestly. Another thing: this episode was really blatantly using the setup for helms deep in Lotr as inspiration. Some might call it an homage, but it felt more like creative bankruptcy. Like they had no idea how to do a setup for such a hopeless battle so they just had to copy an actually good film. The shrill contrast with the quality of lotr made this episode fall flat on its face even more. Tolkien and george lucas knew better than to include quipy one-liners and a 'funny' wildling who tells some story about sucking on a giants tit before spilling milk all over himself in the scenes leading up to helms deep. The tone is so all over the place I have a hard time feeling any tension for the fight with the white walkers. Dont even get me started on arya the 'badass', all her scenes are a continuous stream of cringe. Yes im upset Couldn't agree more. I have trouble puting into words how much has gone with the series since the writers ran out of GRRM's material, but it's blatantly obvious that these mediocre tv show writers are completely out of their league. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 22 2019 23:39 solidbebe wrote: The writing is so flat and the direction is so wooden. 90% of characters in scenes now are just blank serious face. With the exceptions being brienne's smile after being knighted and jamie who is practically the only only left who feels like an actual human being. The rest of the cast are just line delivery machines. Not really blaming the actors for it though. Any time some actual tension shows up the scene ends: sansa confronting dany about the north had the potential to become a very interesting scene which finally brings their silent conflict above the table. Of course it ends right as sansa confronts dany. Too difficult to write I guess. Second time with dany and jon, the actual GRAND REVEAL of jons heritage thats been hanging in the air for several seasons. Yet nothing happens. As soon as dany mentions him being and line for the throne before her and they could actually have some meaningful dialogue, the horn blows. Saved by the be- uuuh whitewalkers. Again nothing of consequence happens. We see a bunch more shot/reverse-shot 1on1 meetups all of which should have been handled in the previous episode. The meeting in the war room could have been several characters discussing about what their strategy should be, surely all these characters from incredibly different walks of life would disagree at least a little on how they should handle the likely final battle of their lives? Nope, bran comes up with some plan and thats what theyre going to do. No conflict, no discussion, nothing. They didnt even mention the ice dragon... why does no one seem to be worried about that? Also was it just me or did this episode have really strange sound mixing? In the span of a few lines in the same scene characters went from sounding normal to sounding like theyre in a large hall with echo, to sounding like theyre right new to a microphone. Bizarre honestly. Another thing: this episode was really blatantly using the setup for helms deep in Lotr as inspiration. Some might call it an homage, but it felt more like creative bankruptcy. Like they had no idea how to do a setup for such a hopeless battle so they just had to copy an actually good film. The shrill contrast with the quality of lotr made this episode fall flat on its face even more. Tolkien and george lucas knew better than to include quipy one-liners and a 'funny' wildling who tells some story about sucking on a giants tit before spilling milk all over himself in the scenes leading up to helms deep. The tone is so all over the place I have a hard time feeling any tension for the fight with the white walkers. Dont even get me started on arya the 'badass', all her scenes are a continuous stream of cringe. Yes im upset Did you delete the character of Gimli and his contest of orc murder with long fancy pants of the perfect hair? There are jokes in both the book and the movie. And there are a lot of jokes in all of George Lucas’s “hopeless battles” too. | ||
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sharkie
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