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I really liked this episode.
-When Tommen smiled at Marge haha >
-My fav part when Podrick cooked the rabbit with skin LOL
I liked when they attacked the mutineers in Craster's Keep, but I don't like how Jon planned it like just charge at them wildly. I mean they can kill at least 2-3 men stealthily? And Im pretty surprised that + Show Spoiler + Locke died there, I was hoping that his char would do more in the future
My questions in this ep since my audio is kinda bad and it sounds gibberish
- why is she mentioning those names ?
- can't understand fully the Tywin x Cersei convo about Iron bank. can someone summarize it
also no Tyrion 
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On May 05 2014 13:51 shin_toss wrote:I really liked this episode. -When Tommen smiled at Marge haha > -My fav part when Podrick cooked the rabbit with skin LOL I liked when they attacked the mutineers in Craster's Keep, but I don't like how Jon planned it like just charge at them wildly. I mean they can kill at least 2-3 men stealthily? And Im pretty surprised that + Show Spoiler + Locke died there, I was hoping that his char would do more in the future My questions in this ep since my audio is kinda bad and it sounds gibberish - why is she mentioning those names ? - can't understand fully the Tywin x Cersei convo about Iron bank. can someone summarize it also no Tyrion
I am assuming by why is she mentioning those names you mean ayra? They are the people she plans to kill.
The tywin/cersei is them talking about how they have to pay the debt back or there will be consequences. Nobody just doesn't pay the fee they owe the iron bank.
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It's not clear to me however, what those consequences might be.
It's not like the Iron Bank has a large army like the Iron Throne.
What are they gonna do if the debt isn't paid?
Poison the king?
I'm not sure what Tywin is afraid of.
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On May 05 2014 13:55 urboss wrote:
It's not clear to me however, what those consequences might be.
It's not like the Iron Bank has a large army like the Iron Throne.
What are they gonna do if the debt isn't paid?
Poison the king?
I'm not sure what Tywin is afraid of.
Enough money can get you anything.
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On May 05 2014 13:21 MooMooMugi wrote:
This week's episode was okay, nothing much happened except those mutineers getting what they deserved
Nothing much happened? You mean aside from Lysa revealing that practically everything that happened in this show starting from Jon Arryn's murder in the very first episode was orchestrated by Littlefinger? I don't know. Seems kind of big to me.
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On May 05 2014 13:55 urboss wrote:
It's not clear to me however, what those consequences might be.
It's not like the Iron Bank has a large army like the Iron Throne.
What are they gonna do if the debt isn't paid?
Poison the king?
I'm not sure what Tywin is afraid of.
Go watch the scene again. Tywin tells you EXACTLY what he's afraid of.
Wars are won with money. The Iron Bank IS money.
I'm sure you can figure this out.
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On May 05 2014 13:55 urboss wrote:
It's not clear to me however, what those consequences might be.
It's not like the Iron Bank has a large army like the Iron Throne.
What are they gonna do if the debt isn't paid?
Poison the king?
I'm not sure what Tywin is afraid of.
It's been referenced before in the show they get their money one way or another. Hell they have all the money so they can just supply another person who wants them dead "IE" Dany and when she conquers them they will get their money back.
Money is power in this universe. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Not too much happened this episode to spark a lot of discussion, no big shockers or surprises. Story moved along nicely, just disappointed Bran decided not to rejoin with Jon and instead head his own way. Glad Jon's direwolf is back alongside him though.
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Hodor breaking a guy's neck?
Barely any Dany?
Cool Jon Snow sword fight?
Sounds like another winner of an episode to me
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also i am falling more and more in love with pod with every episode
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2014 13:52 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 13:51 shin_toss wrote:I really liked this episode. -When Tommen smiled at Marge haha > -My fav part when Podrick cooked the rabbit with skin LOL I liked when they attacked the mutineers in Craster's Keep, but I don't like how Jon planned it like just charge at them wildly. I mean they can kill at least 2-3 men stealthily? And Im pretty surprised that + Show Spoiler + Locke died there, I was hoping that his char would do more in the future My questions in this ep since my audio is kinda bad and it sounds gibberish - why is she mentioning those names ? - can't understand fully the Tywin x Cersei convo about Iron bank. can someone summarize it also no Tyrion
I am assuming by why is she mentioning those names you mean ayra? They are the people she plans to kill.
The tywin/cersei is them talking about how they have to pay the debt back or there will be consequences. Nobody just doesn't pay the fee they owe the iron bank.
Yeah I meant Arya. But why is Beric Dondarrion on that list.
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On May 05 2014 14:11 shin_toss wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 05 2014 13:52 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 13:51 shin_toss wrote:I really liked this episode. -When Tommen smiled at Marge haha > -My fav part when Podrick cooked the rabbit with skin LOL I liked when they attacked the mutineers in Craster's Keep, but I don't like how Jon planned it like just charge at them wildly. I mean they can kill at least 2-3 men stealthily? And Im pretty surprised that + Show Spoiler + Locke died there, I was hoping that his char would do more in the future My questions in this ep since my audio is kinda bad and it sounds gibberish - why is she mentioning those names ? - can't understand fully the Tywin x Cersei convo about Iron bank. can someone summarize it also no Tyrion I am assuming by why is she mentioning those names you mean ayra? They are the people she plans to kill. The tywin/cersei is them talking about how they have to pay the debt back or there will be consequences. Nobody just doesn't pay the fee they owe the iron bank. Yeah I meant Arya. But why is Beric Dondarrion on that list.
Sold off Robert's bastard son to the Red Lady with no remorse, also failed to kill the Hound and uphold justice.
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Damn, Sansa cannot catch a break. First her father gets killed, then all this affair with Joffrey and now she's imprisoned by this mad bitch. Poor girl.
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On May 05 2014 14:07 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 13:55 urboss wrote:
It's not clear to me however, what those consequences might be.
It's not like the Iron Bank has a large army like the Iron Throne.
What are they gonna do if the debt isn't paid?
Poison the king?
I'm not sure what Tywin is afraid of. It's been referenced before in the show they get their money one way or another. Hell they have all the money so they can just supply another person who wants them dead "IE" Dany and when she conquers them they will get their money back. Money is power in this universe. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Not too much happened this episode to spark a lot of discussion, no big shockers or surprises. Story moved along nicely, just disappointed Bran decided not to rejoin with Jon and instead head his own way. Glad Jon's direwolf is back alongside him though.
Money might be power in Game of Thrones, I'm not sure if this is a realistic representation of medieval states of affairs though. It's hard to believe that rulers in history would have allowed banks to become that powerful in the first place.
Don't get me wrong, the Medici did have political influence, but not as depicted in the series, to the degree that the whole kingdom is depending on them.
Edit: OK, it seems king Edward IV of England was actually indebted to the Medici after the Wars of Roses. Since he couldn't pay back the debt, it eventually led to the decline of the Medici. The kingdom was unaffected by this however. King Edward IV seems to be the historic pendant of king Robert.
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On May 05 2014 14:30 urboss wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 14:07 Zooper31 wrote:On May 05 2014 13:55 urboss wrote:
It's not clear to me however, what those consequences might be.
It's not like the Iron Bank has a large army like the Iron Throne.
What are they gonna do if the debt isn't paid?
Poison the king?
I'm not sure what Tywin is afraid of. It's been referenced before in the show they get their money one way or another. Hell they have all the money so they can just supply another person who wants them dead "IE" Dany and when she conquers them they will get their money back. Money is power in this universe. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Not too much happened this episode to spark a lot of discussion, no big shockers or surprises. Story moved along nicely, just disappointed Bran decided not to rejoin with Jon and instead head his own way. Glad Jon's direwolf is back alongside him though. Money might be power in Game of Thrones, I'm not sure if this is a realistic representation of medieval states of affairs though. It's hard to believe that rulers in history would have allowed banks to become that powerful in the first place. Don't get me wrong, the Medici did have political influence, but not as depicted in the series, to the degree that the whole kingdom is depending on them. Edit: OK, it seems king Edward IV of England was actually indebted to the Medici after the Wars of Roses. Since he couldn't pay back the debt, it eventually led to the decline of the Medici. The kingdom was unaffected by this however. King Edward IV seems to be the historic pendant of king Robert.
This isn't a realistic representation of medieval states... They fucking have magic and dragons and real life Gods.
It's a fantasy show, I think you forgot that.
Money is power in this universe
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Sure, but they do always make a clear distinction between what is real and what's fantasy.
If you ask historians, they will point out that the show very accurately depicts medieval life.
And I think that this is also one of the strengths of Game of Thrones.
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Did Tywin say all the Lannister gold mines ran dry a while ago or did I misunderstood that?
That's quite shocking news if that's the case.
Still, Lysa killing her husband herself was the biggest surprise of this episode for me
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On May 05 2014 15:15 Zandar wrote:
Did Tywin say all the Lannister gold mines ran dry a while ago or did I misunderstood that?
That's quite shocking news if that's the case.
Still, Lysa killing her husband herself was the biggest surprise of this episode for me
Yeah, he said it dried up three years ago (I believe).
Whether that means the Lannisters have no money at all, or just won't have money in the future, remains to be seen.
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On May 05 2014 15:15 Zandar wrote:
Still, Lysa killing her husband herself was the biggest surprise of this episode for me
She was also the one who wrote the letter to Cat/Ned about the Lannisters killing Jon Arryn waaay back when in S1. I think we can deduce that she is TOTALLY cray-cray.
Also, Pod so kawaii~
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On May 05 2014 13:55 urboss wrote:
It's not clear to me however, what those consequences might be.
It's not like the Iron Bank has a large army like the Iron Throne.
What are they gonna do if the debt isn't paid?
Poison the king?
I'm not sure what Tywin is afraid of.
Don't forget that in episode 3 Ser Davos had an idea to write to the Iron Bank of Bravos acting as Stannis Baratheon. Stannis had mentioned earlier that they don't have any money and need money to fight for his cause obviously. The scene with Davos cut when Shireen began writing the letter to the Iron Bank of Bravos for him. Important to think about in my opinion, considering Tywin confirmed that the last gold mine in Casterly Rock dried up 3 years ago and they owe "tremendous amounts" back to the throne already. Two and two might mean four.
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Do we have any understanding of the situation in Harrenhal? Wasn't Littlefinger declared Lord of Harrenhal? But he hasn't even visited it yet? Why would anyone support him if people don't really know who he is... Who controls it right now?
Petyr looked really scary since he rules the Riverlands, has lots of influence over The Vale, has the heir to the throne of Winterfell as far as most people know.... That makes him not far away from being Lorg of 3 of the 7 great Kingdoms in westeros.
As for the episode, I thought the fight at Craster's was rather short, feel like the ending was too rushed. I was really sad that Bran and Jon didn't meet, but understandable. Besides that, nothing really surprising. There is so many characters right now, and it makes the story move so slowly, which is rather annoying. Ah well, hoping we will see some climactic event in the next episode or two as it has been quite slow for the last three episodes now.
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