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On April 23 2014 06:13 Conti wrote:

You did? Where?

On April 23 2014 06:20 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Man, I'm really surprised this episode is getting this much hate from people.

I think the Cersei and Jaime scene was very powerful, maybe minor tweaks in their acting, but I think there isn't much to change. I think it represented the personalities of their actors very well.

And people keep hating on the Dany scenes... I can totally understand you don't like Dany, she obviously isn't the most rational person, as it has been shows again and again. So I don't know why people are complaining about it when she makes irrational decisions. She's the boss, she can do as she pleases. She has other redeeming qualities that allow her to stay in control.

I see where the people are coming from in complaining about her plot being too repetitive, but they need to develop Dany as a character, and not to mention all her companions, as I'm sure many of them are going to be significant in the plot later. Imagine she goes take King Landing with her army, but Tywin would kill Daario... If Daario was just some guy she met, had one scene in the bathtub with her, and then went to not be developed as a character, his death would have no significant impact.

The motives for characters need to be developed. It seems like people just don't like Dany because of her character, and if that's the case, good! Root against her. What exactly do you want the writers/book to do to develop these characters? Each coup of the city is different, and it's easy to not see that when being so negative. Everything that happens builds well on Dany's character, as well as her companions. She should become a significant factor with the rest of the characters somewhat soon I think.

Edit: Also, if that Jamie and Cersei scene was rape in your eyes, then I guess I "rape" my girlfriend on a weekly basis, opps. Couples have different sexual interests, and people just disliked these because it's rough by societies standard. And geez, they are or were in love with each other god dammit, it's totally normal, they even seem the kind to be a little wild when it comes to stuff like that. I think many couples will be in the kitchen, they need to put their kid to sleep, who is just playing upstairs, and the woman is making dinner, the man will come behind her, start kissing her, the wife will say not now, push him away, but still kiss him back, and then say "not now not now", and it happens anyway.

In relationships, sex doesn't have to be 100% consensual. If my girlfriend is sleeping and I get on top of her, start kissing her neck, and then slowly have sex with her, she's not going to get mad. Just like how I wouldn't get mad if I woke up to a blowjob, even when I never gave consent to it. Even when I say no, she will do things to me, etc. With your partner if you don't want something, you need to be really stern, otherwise it shows you don't mind. And that's what Cersei did, she didn't fight back very hard, plus when you're horny, you might do something more "intense" than you normally would. Like when you masturbate, and then you finish, and you're almost disguised by what you were watching? Anyone?

Anyway, point is, it's different between some girl you take home for the first time, or a woman you fuck from behind like a Gorilla (when they pushed off Bron). If that really comes off as rape to you, I think you are extremely closed off different sexual fantasies and desires. Again, Cersei and Jamie make rough love, it's how they do it. Obviously stuff like doing it next to your dead son's body is a bit over the top, for most people, but it's definitely not out of the realm of imagination for these characters.