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Falling
Canada11378 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:10 urboss wrote: Can we please stop calling it 'rape'? Both the director and the book author have announced by now that it wasn't meant to be rape. A work can fail to match the intentions of the author when there is a failure or an error in execution. Execution of an idea may contradict the intention. | ||
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brian
United States9633 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:10 urboss wrote: Can we please stop calling it 'rape'? Both the director and the book author have announced by now that it wasn't meant to be rape. haha I haven't seen the scene yet, but your reasoning is hilarious. the guys said it wasn't rape. that settles that. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8205 Posts
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inimenesc
Estonia374 Posts
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Vesimias
Finland135 Posts
If the director says it wasn't meant to be rape, I think we can all just say it was portrayed poorly.  | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:32 Excludos wrote: Kind of tired of this discussion. When the girl kisses and fucks you back, it can't be qualified as rape! In some relationships, the girl says no while still really wanting it...Just don't try it on that new girl you just picked up at the bar... I just rewartched the scene. Where the flying fuck did she kiss and fuck him back? | ||
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Excludos
Norway8205 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:41 Conti wrote: I just rewartched the scene. Where the flying fuck did she kiss and fuck him back? I'm not going to go frame by frame with you. Its VERY evident she wants it, and shes seen reaching back to kiss him several times. | ||
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
Both the director and the book author have announced by now that it wasn't meant to be rape. I call foul here - the person saying that clearly has read the books, even multiples times ! Thus his opinion should be disregarded and if he'd ever post here, he'd be banned from this thread ! :o) | ||
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:44 Excludos wrote: I'm not going to go frame by frame with you. Its VERY evident she wants it, and shes seen reaching back to kiss him several times. I'm serious. I see one kiss in total after she tells him off and not multiple kisses as you imply, so your statement is incorrect based on that alone. That one kiss she does not fight off. Absolutely everything else she does, though, is trying to fight him off, right until the scene ends. Not to mention everything she says. So, yeah. Clearly not rape. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:55 Conti wrote: I'm serious. I see one kiss in total after she tells him off and not multiple kisses as you imply, so your statement is incorrect based on that alone. That one kiss she does not fight off. Absolutely everything else she does, though, is trying to fight him off, right until the scene ends. Not to mention everything she says. So, yeah. Clearly not rape. I completely agree with you here. And it really doesn't matter what the regisseur says about that scene, if it doesn't portray what he intended to do he failed, simple as that | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9739 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: You guys are aware this is a tv show right? Its still kinda worrying that some people don't know what constitutes rape. That could land them in serious trouble in real life. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:59 Jockmcplop wrote: Its still kinda worrying that some people don't know what constitutes rape. That could land them in serious trouble in real life. Yeah because only knowing the law will stop you from mistreating a girl. | ||
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RedFury
Italy85 Posts
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sacade
166 Posts
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
However, since most people construe it as rape, this can have negative consequences on the character development of Jaime. So yes, in a way the director didn't manage to express what he intended to. Also, most viewers seem to base their moral system on today's standards when watching a medieval setting. That said, even today there is a lot of ambiguity as to what is rape and what not. Just take a look into the courts. And to the one claiming I've read the books, he's right, I've just started with the first book of the series. The interviews with director and book author can be found all over the place in the news. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On April 23 2014 02:37 inimenesc wrote: Am I the only one who isnt botherd by Littlefingers voice? I find it awesome and mysterious. I actually really like his voice and I think the actor is doing a fine job. I could be in the minority I dunno. Can we stop having a discussion on rape though? :/ | ||
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b0ub0u
Canada445 Posts
I have been with girls that wanted it exactly like that. It's pretty common. Edit : Minus the "being next to your son`s dead body". LOL | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 23 2014 04:05 b0ub0u wrote: This is clearly not rape. I have been with girls that wanted it exactly like that. It's pretty common. Edit : Minus the "being next to your son`s dead body". LOL That's missing the point by a few miles. We don't know if Cersei likes it that way. That other women might like it just like that (or not) is entirely irrelevant for Cersei. | ||
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