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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On April 23 2014 06:05 Thalandros wrote: To be honest, you saw Cersei consent in the last ten seconds of that scene. Didn't look like rape to me. It looked like he was forcing her, but in the end it didn't look (and wasn't) rape. Also that scene with Tywin and Oberyn.. So freaking good. And I just get chills when I hear the ''Dracarys'' Soundtrack. God damn. If you seriously think that scene wasn't rape then you shouldn't be allowed to procreate with anyone irl. Was rape 100% and to say anything else is just pure ignorance. 10 No's and 1 half Yes, halfway through the rape, is still rape and should be deemed abhorrent. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:13 Darkhorse wrote: What's everyone's opinion on the acting for Littlefinger? He's overacting a lot, especially with his unnatural pronunciation, like he's in a Shakespearean play. I know the guy is a really good actor, and I know that the directors certainly don't tell any other actor to overact like that.. but for some reason Littlefinger sticks out with his over-the-top mysterious-guy-act. I really wonder if they're doing that intentionally or not, and if so, for what reason. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:18 Conti wrote: He's overacting a lot, especially with his unnatural pronunciation, like he's in a Shakespearean play. I know the guy is a really good actor, and I know that the directors certainly don't tell any other actor to overact like that.. but for some reason Littlefinger sticks out with his over-the-top mysterious-guy-act. I really wonder if they're doing that intentionally or not, and if so, for what reason. I'm pretty sure it's mostly just his character or how Martin written him to be. He's told to act a certain way and he's simply following along. I think he's doing fantastic, Sansa is the worst actor imo but then again it might just be the character. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:17 Zooper31 wrote: If you seriously think that scene wasn't rape then you shouldn't be allowed to procreate with anyone irl. Was rape 100% and to say anything else is just pure ignorance. 10 No's and 1 half Yes, halfway through the rape, is still rape. How about we fucking stop talking about this? We all obviously saw it in different ways, probably based on some of our own personal experiences as well as the surroundings of the scene itself and the story between the two. You can't just attack people because they have a different opinion than you. No one here is going to out and rape someone because they saw it in a series and thought it was ok. It's all about the intention behind it, which is very hard to read by someone not in that relationship. Thus we can only go by what the creators wanted OR what we see in the next episodes. Since we already know what the creators wanted, we also know that Cersei isn't going to run around and claim Jamie raped her anytime soon. And ffs, learn to discuss. I'm sick and tired of people using personal attacks as some kind of arguing technique. It just proves you don't know any other way to convince people. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:20 Zooper31 wrote: I'm pretty sure it's mostly just his character or how Martin written him to be. He's told to act a certain way and he's simply following along. I think he's doing fantastic, Sansa is the worst actor imo but then again it might just be the character. I have no idea. To me, Littlefinger just feels out of place, since pretty much every other character in the show acts and talks like a normal human being, and not like a stage actor in a play. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:17 Zooper31 wrote: If you seriously think that scene wasn't rape then you shouldn't be allowed to procreate with anyone irl. Was rape 100% and to say anything else is just pure ignorance. 10 No's and 1 half Yes, halfway through the rape, is still rape and should be deemed abhorrent. If the producers said it's not meant to be rape, it's clear evidence that they tried to put elements of consent through, but they didn't shine through brightly enough. 1:11-1:16 in the video. Removes any thoughts of potential rape in that video. There is no woman in a relationship that would feel like she is being raped by her lover is she kisses him back like that. End of argument. It's evident she wants it, she is just uncomfortable with the time and location, and maybe saddened by the degradation of her relationship with Jaime. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:22 Excludos wrote: How about we fucking stop talking about this? We all obviously saw it in different ways, probably based on some of our own personal experiences as well as the surroundings of the scene itself and the story between the two. You can't just attack people because they have a different opinion than you. No one here is going to out and rape someone because they saw it in a series and thought it was ok. It's all about the intention behind it, which is very hard to read by someone not in that relationship. Thus we can only go by what the creators wanted OR what we see in the next episodes. Since we already know what the creators wanted, we also know that Cersei isn't going to run around and claim Jamie raped her anytime soon. And ffs, learn to discuss. I'm sick and tired of people using personal attacks as some kind of arguing technique. It just proves you don't know any other way to convince people. There was no other way to see it, it was rape and that's the end of it. His reasoning was 100% flawed and he tried to make it seem like Cersei wanted it to happen when she clearly didn't. Same thing happened in the thread we had about "rape culture" or w/e. Acting like the victim wanted it or enjoyed it cannot be tolerated I'm sorry. I'm fine that it happened. I'm just not fine with people thinking it didn't happen. Regardless of what the director wanted to show or not. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:22 Conti wrote: I have no idea. To me, Littlefinger just feels out of place, since pretty much every other character in the show acts and talks like a normal human being, and not like a stage actor in a play. I think that voice seems out of place in some circumstances but in others it just feels perfect. His interaction with Varys up to and including the Climb monologue was pretty epic. I think the actor is pretty good but I get you on the idea of his pronunciation a little bit. I still think he is doing a good job. Top tier of acting in the show is probably Charles Dance, Peter Dinklage, and Conleth Hill. I dunno there are tons of great actors in the show but I feel Tyrion, Tywin, and Varys are just played brilliantly. EDIT: Seriously guys cut it out with the rape talk. The scene was on a borderline. Some people think it was, some don't. I'm not gonna bother saying how I feel about it because the last people who have have had their opinions bashed by other people in this thread. I just wish the thread didn't have to be completely absorbed by that one scene. | ||
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CatfooD
United States203 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:07 Conti wrote: "She stopped struggling and he didn't visibly injure her, so she must have been okay with it." ...what the fucking fuck? I'm perfectly fine with arguments saying that the director didn't intend it to be rape, or that that's just how Jaime and Cersei make love, or that it may or may not have been rape and we don't know what Cersei really thinks about it afterwards or whatever.. But comments that try to argue that it wasn't rape based on the scene alone, without any further context.. comments that basically say "she didn't struggle enough so it wasn't rape!" or "she clearly liked it!".. those comments just creep me the fuck out. Why do you insist on interpreting a brutal, medieval fantasy TV show with modern definitions of rape? More importantly, in my opinion, why does anyone FUCKING GIVE A SHIT! My God, with all of the murders and whoring and dishonesty and slaughter and incest and political scheming and and and! .... WHY does this bother you so much? It was very obviously meant to be shocking and outrageous. They both haven't had any together in a long time, and this scene shows the sexually human aspect of their characters and their lust for one another. Cercei says "Jaime not here, please" because they have obvious risk of getting caught and could potentially unravel the legitimacy of their entire family's reign, not because she doesn't want to have sex like they have been doing for decades. They love each other, have children together, and want each other. Cercei was simply still mourning for Joffrey and thinking about Tyrion's supposed murder when Jaime got horny and went to seduce her in a very risky place, that's all. Ultimately though, this discussion isn't going to be settled since it is subjectively interpreted. Just take it easy and enjoy the fucking show. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:27 CatfooD wrote: Why do you insist on interpreting a brutal, medieval fantasy TV show with modern definitions of rape? More importantly, in my opinion, why does anyone FUCKING GIVE A SHIT! My God, with all of the murders and whoring and dishonesty and slaughter and incest and political scheming and and and! .... WHY does this bother you so much? It was very obviously meant to be shocking and outrageous. The scene didn't really bother me. What bothers me is people seeing that scene and saying "Eh, she didn't struggle enough, so she likes it! That's how it works, right?" But yeah, I really shouldn't be bothered that much by mindless comments like that. It's not like the internet isn't full of them already.  | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:33 Conti wrote: The scene didn't really bother me. What bothers me is people seeing that scene and saying "Eh, she didn't struggle enough, so she likes it! That's how it works, right?" But yeah, I really shouldn't be bothered that much by mindless comments like that. It's not like the internet isn't full of them already. In fact, you're actively providing them right now. I'd rather we started talking about the top 10 fighters again for the 50th time | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
If the world turned to Westeros, and we were in the same part of the plot as the show is in now, and you had to be one of the characters (gender doesn't matter), who would you be? (You have the same body as the character, but you take over their brain) You are not allowed to pick a character that has already been picked by a another poster! | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:46 FiWiFaKi wrote: NEW TOPIC! If the world turned to Westeros, and we were in the same part of the plot as the show is in now, and you had to be one of the characters (gender doesn't matter), who would you be? (You have the same body as the character, but you take over their brain) You are not allowed to pick a character that has already been picked by a poster before you! Ygritte because I love redheads and I might get me some Jon Snow later on. I'm a guy. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
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KadaverBB
Germany25658 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On April 23 2014 07:50 KadaverBB wrote: I think id be littlefinger, he seems to be pretty wealthy and is so far not "implicated" with any crimes. I could just settle down somewhere and live a happy life^^ He's not a very nice person though, all he cares about is power, and he has lots of responsibility too. If you decide to just take your money and let shit be, Tywin will probably go banling mode on you. I would've been Jon Snow, but not anymore since Zooper would be all over me. (sorry) So I'd be Sansa. + Show Spoiler + Maybe Game of Thrones roleplay is not a good idea S: | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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