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On April 23 2014 08:21 Keniji wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 08:17 Darkhorse wrote:
Pretty sure people would be clamoring for Tyrion if he wasn't in a cell atm :D what why. he is a dwarf in medieval times and his family hates him. All he got is his wits and brain. And if you take over his brain. well. you are a (rich) dwarf that is hated by his family. good times.
Well here's the thing. If you want to be a Lannister, you have a few options. Jaime, the one handed man who was disowned by his father (unofficially of course), Cersei who has a pretty shit life who no one likes, and Tywin who is a complete badass but is also pretty old. I'd take Tyrion over the other three if he weren't on trial for murder.
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On April 23 2014 08:25 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 08:20 KadaverBB wrote:
His entire family hates him, there really arent any advantages in being tyrion except for being rich. I wouldn't say his entire family hates him. Him and Jamie seem to be close. I don't know how joffrey's brother views him, but I am pretty sure most of the familiy hates him though cause their jerks!
The two other Lannister children seemed to like Tyrion at Winterfell in season one but that was a different time (and a different actor that looked about 10 years younger lmao). Dunno what Tommen actually thinks of Tyrion now.
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can i be one of the dragons?
id like to be able to fly when that continent is being overrun by a million zombies.
And the other continent is full of slaves, castrated people and people who are about to be killed by their slaves, so not so good choices.
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whos that magic assassin dude again (forgot his name, i would like to be that guy) or maybe arya shes pretty cool and slowing becoming badass lol, or one of the pretty ladies and just ogle myself in the mirror all day long
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Shireen Baratheon is just so adorable in this episode. That scene with Davos was really sweet.
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On April 23 2014 07:53 SC2Toastie wrote:
Tywin, the BAMF is totally me.
dude hes like 90 years old
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On April 23 2014 12:11 Assault_1 wrote:dude hes like 90 years old
58.
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On April 23 2014 10:59 Shock710 wrote:
whos that magic assassin dude again (forgot his name, i would like to be that guy) or maybe arya shes pretty cool and slowing becoming badass lol, or one of the pretty ladies and just ogle myself in the mirror all day long
Jaqen H'ghar. He's already taken. :o
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On April 23 2014 07:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
NEW TOPIC!
If the world turned to Westeros, and we were in the same part of the plot as the show is in now, and you had to be one of the characters (gender doesn't matter), who would you be? (You have the same body as the character, but you take over their brain) You are not allowed to pick a character that has already been picked by a another poster!
Bronn for sure because Jamie is too mainstream and Hound and Obeyron was already taken.. I'm really interested in his trial also, Such a good fighter plus a talker/worm he has everytning to survive in Westeros.
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On April 23 2014 12:11 Assault_1 wrote:dude hes like 90 years old
A Lannister does not concern himself with the opinion of sheep!
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dibbs on Theon!
haha, suckers!
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I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least.
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Dips on Danny ... Because she asks the important questions like WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS ?? (I guess offscreen because CGI is expensive.)
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On April 23 2014 13:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
dibbs on Theon!
haha, suckers!
There is no Theon. There is only Reek.
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On April 23 2014 14:07 ixi.genocide wrote:
I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least.
If you mean Gendry, that's one of his bastards and there's no guarantee that he's even the eldest of them, Robert got around. But illegitimate sons have no claim, no name, no place in line. The line of Baratheon is Stannis, then his daughter, then presumably his cousins on his father's side.
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On April 23 2014 07:46 FiWiFaKi wrote:
NEW TOPIC!
If the world turned to Westeros, and we were in the same part of the plot as the show is in now, and you had to be one of the characters (gender doesn't matter), who would you be? (You have the same body as the character, but you take over their brain) You are not allowed to pick a character that has already been picked by a another poster!
Roose Bolton
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On April 23 2014 14:10 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 14:07 ixi.genocide wrote:
I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least. If you mean Gendry, that's one of his bastards and there's no guarantee that he's even the eldest of them, Robert got around. But illegitimate sons have no claim, no name, no place in line. The line of Baratheon is Stannis, then his daughter, then presumably his cousins on his father's side.
Who has better claim to the throne KwarK, Danaerys or Stannis? Did Robert's conquest override Aerys' line of succession since I believe it is considered a "legitimate" way to claim the throne, although rebelling against one's king is not?
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On April 23 2014 08:28 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 08:21 Keniji wrote:On April 23 2014 08:17 Darkhorse wrote:
Pretty sure people would be clamoring for Tyrion if he wasn't in a cell atm :D what why. he is a dwarf in medieval times and his family hates him. All he got is his wits and brain. And if you take over his brain. well. you are a (rich) dwarf that is hated by his family. good times. Well here's the thing. If you want to be a Lannister, you have a few options. Jaime, the one handed man who was disowned by his father (unofficially of course), Cersei who has a pretty shit life who no one likes, and Tywin who is a complete badass but is also pretty old. I'd take Tyrion over the other three if he weren't on trial for murder.
Tywin, EZ. Tywin "I-run-this-place" Lannister.
Who cares about life expectancy, rather rule the word for a day than suffer in it for 50 years.
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On April 23 2014 15:23 CatfooD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 14:10 KwarK wrote:On April 23 2014 14:07 ixi.genocide wrote:
I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least. If you mean Gendry, that's one of his bastards and there's no guarantee that he's even the eldest of them, Robert got around. But illegitimate sons have no claim, no name, no place in line. The line of Baratheon is Stannis, then his daughter, then presumably his cousins on his father's side. Who has better claim to the throne KwarK, Danaerys or Stannis? Did Robert's conquest override Aerys' line of succession since I believe it is considered a "legitimate" way to claim the throne, although rebelling against one's king is not?
Whichever can take it, hold it and convince anyone to follow them. Having the right blood is a big part of the convincing and Gendry's blood is as wrong as any.
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On April 23 2014 15:23 CatfooD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 14:10 KwarK wrote:On April 23 2014 14:07 ixi.genocide wrote:
I think I would be Robert Baratheons legitimate son. Not sure where he is at atm, but he has potential claim to all of westeros, and to the baratheon kingdom at the least. If you mean Gendry, that's one of his bastards and there's no guarantee that he's even the eldest of them, Robert got around. But illegitimate sons have no claim, no name, no place in line. The line of Baratheon is Stannis, then his daughter, then presumably his cousins on his father's side. Who has better claim to the throne KwarK, Danaerys or Stannis? Did Robert's conquest override Aerys' line of succession since I believe it is considered a "legitimate" way to claim the throne, although rebelling against one's king is not?
difference between a rebel and a new king is merely the outcome of the rebellion. If fails, the rebel was a wannabe userper, if it succeeds and the other lords accept it, it's a new legit dynasty. Right by might. Aegon conquared, Robert rebelled. Both were threats as far as the actual rulers of the kingdom(s) were concerned, both succseeded, both became kings. Robert failed to annihilate all the Targs, or make them swear fealty, so there's that. Targ's can still consider themsleves the legitimate rulers of Westeros, all the big families (starks, arynns, lannisters, tyrells etc) swore to House Baratheon, and accepted Robert as the new king.
So Stannis's claim is stronger as far as "legality" goes, but Danny's claim is legit as well, since her dynasty never denaounced their claim, and it has living heirs (even though all its vasals abandoned it officially).
European history has a tone of similar situations, with multiple "legit" rulers or leaders. We had 3 popes simultanously at one point.
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