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On April 22 2014 13:07 CatfooD wrote:
Voices are very important for interpreting the show correctly. His tone makes him appear all the more mysterious and scheming, despite it not coming off perfect. Imagine if he sounded like Mr. Rogers (won't you be my neighbor) and had the same lines/scenes in the show. Similarly with Batman; although Christian Bale made it sound comical at times, if he used his normal voice and normal personality I guarantee you that it wouldn't have been convincing at all without the contrast and elemental aspect of "Batman."
This reminds me of Darth Farmer.
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On April 22 2014 16:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 15:00 CatfooD wrote:On April 22 2014 12:19 Aveng3r wrote:
Just popping in to say I really thought this was a bit of a slow episode, I thought it was funny when the hound ended up punching the dude in the face and stealing his silver
and man that wildling ambush was brutal You pointed out your enjoyment for the wildling ambush in particular, which is fine of course, but I happen to think that THAT was the more boring and pointless scenes of the episode as it basically just reminded us that a big handful of wildlings are still south of the wall since Jon's escape. What dude?! "I'm going to eat your dead mama, and I'm going to eat your dead papa" that was fucking awesome. As for the point. I mean yeah not much happened but it served to illustrate the contrast between the two factions. You have bloodthirsty badass wildlings vs a withering squad of young boys, old men, and maybe a few decent soldiers with no aid in sight from King's Landing. They're turning up the heat!
I found it pretty boring too. Barely paid attention, i was surprised when someone mentioned it being brutal, because i barely paid enough attention lol.
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I can't believe how much you guys complain about "boring" episodes. Do you really just want an hour of pure violence/combat/witty conversations?
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I tought that the Arya/Hound scene was pretty much wasted time in this episode. It did basically nothing except showing us again what we allready know about them.
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I thought the Wildling raid scene was very good. I liked how badass Ygritte came across. It showed for once her real wildling side, and not just the cheeky lover side.
And it was also an important scene because it showed why the Nightswatch wants to hold the wildlings back. And it showed what the wildlings that came over the wall try to do, which is lure out the Nightswatch to kill them.
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I thought that Stannis had decided to send troops to the wall to defend against the White Walkers.
He had made it clear that the real threat lies to the North.
Now he's changed his mind again completely?
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On April 22 2014 19:29 urboss wrote:
I thought that Stannis had decided to send troops to the wall to defend against the White Walkers.
He had made it clear that the real threat lies to the North.
Now he's changed his mind again completely?
If he is going to send troops to the wall he needs troops who are loyal to him to send there.
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On April 22 2014 04:56 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 04:45 Biff The Understudy wrote:On April 21 2014 20:42 Redox wrote:
Was not rape in the incest scene. Well, my advice: don't do it unless you want to spend half a decade in prison. Of course it was a rape; someone says no, you force her to do it by using strength and that's not a rape; what planet are you from? Wow really? You advice me to not rape someone so I dont land in prison? Because we are discussing a TV show here? Wtf man.
Well, you just said it was no rape, now you say I advise you not to rape someone. You should make up your mind.
I advise you not to do what you believe is not rape, and that is, in fact, a rape.
I tried to understand your reasoning as why what would be a rape wouldn't be a rape somewhere else, and it makes no sense to me whatsoever. A rape is forced sex, in that scene, Jamie forces Cercei to have sex, using his superior strength and despite her saying she doesn't want to and trying to oppose him.
Now the fact it would be more acceptable in a misogynistic medieval setting than now is pretty obvious. Doesn't make it more or less a rape, though.
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On April 22 2014 19:26 Redox wrote:
I thought the Wildling raid scene was very good. I liked how badass Ygritte came across. It showed for once her real wildling side, and not just the cheeky lover side.
And it was also an important scene because it showed why the Nightswatch wants to hold the wildlings back. And it showed what the wildlings that came over the wall try to do, which is lure out the Nightswatch to kill them.
Yeah that was badass: massacring coldly unarmed peaceful farmers. Cool stuff.
It's funny every time I read you I'm deeply disturbed. No personal vendetta, but you seem to have a weird moral compass.
This scene showed Ygritte as a farmer and innocent people murderer: if anything, it showed how dark, ruthless and brutal the character really is, and how little likable wildlings are in general; and also put their whole "freedom" bullshit in perspective. Oh and those cannibals guys are amongst the most terrifying villain in the show so far.
On April 22 2014 17:25 Itachii wrote:
Worst GoT episode so far.
You think so? I really liked it. What was so bad about it?
Compared with last season when we had Greyjoy getting tortured over and over and over again, I think even the Sam episode was not so bad.
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On April 22 2014 19:04 Pibacc wrote:
I can't believe how much you guys complain about "boring" episodes. Do you really just want an hour of pure violence/combat/witty conversations?
I was only talking about the wildling scene, i quite enjoyed the ep.
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On April 22 2014 20:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 19:26 Redox wrote:
I thought the Wildling raid scene was very good. I liked how badass Ygritte came across. It showed for once her real wildling side, and not just the cheeky lover side.
And it was also an important scene because it showed why the Nightswatch wants to hold the wildlings back. And it showed what the wildlings that came over the wall try to do, which is lure out the Nightswatch to kill them. Yeah that was badass: massacring coldly unarmed peaceful farmers. Cool stuff. It's funny every time I read you I'm deeply disturbed. No personal vendetta, but you seem to have a weird moral compass. This scene showed Ygritte as a farmer and innocent people murderer: if anything, it showed how dark, ruthless and brutal the character really is, and how little likable wildlings are in general; and also put their whole "freedom" bullshit in perspective. Oh and those cannibals guys are amongst the most terrifying villain in the show so far.
You really should stop trying to interpret so much into so little. I did not condone her actions whatsoever. In fact my opinion regarding her actions does not differ from yours in the slightest. I just liked that they showed this and thought it was very important, in contrast to what soem others said.
I just dont feel like I have to insert "btw I very much condemn the actions of this character" to not be "judged" immoral.
Although I have in fact made quite a few posts pointing out the immorality of characters like Tywin or Jaimie when others were defending them on this and other forums. If you are really that interested in my morals PM me and I will point you to them.
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Poll: Episode 3 was...All right (36) 69% Perfect (12) 23% Substandard (2) 4% Lousy (2) 4% 52 total votes Your vote: Episode 3 was... (Vote): Perfect
(Vote): All right
(Vote): Substandard
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The episode is suffering because the one before it was so mindblowingly good this one looks substandard by comparison, when in fact it was a perfectly legitimate episode just not one that had jaw-dropping plot bombs in it.
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I didn't like it. Too many contradictions.
Stannis hires pirates and uses black magic, but spits on sellswords.
Jaime saves Brienne from being raped, then rapes Cersei himself.
The Hound strongly rejects the idea of thievery, and then robs an old man who gave him hospitality.
It's one thing to have twists and to make characters change and do unexpected things, but those 180's were too big in my eyes. Could have worked if they had eased into it a little more, and made the transition more subtle.
Most of the episode irritated me, with Dany's smugness topping it off.
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What people can't be hypocrites? As much as i'd like to be, i'm never 100% consistent all of the time. Also Stannis gets called out by Davos for it.
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The Tywin/Tommen scene was fucking amazing, the best scene of the season by far.
Jaime has always been a weird character to me. In season 1 and 2 he is a pure egoist who lets no one and nothing stand between him and his own safety and pleasure. In season 3 he makes a very unmotivated 180 and becomes a good guy for a while, and now he is raping people.
Danny was great as always <3.
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No, people can be hypocrites and even liars. It's even the standard in GoT, but there is such a thing as going against the character. Stannis seems to make use of whatever means he has to achieve his goals, and I didn't think he would be above hiring sellswords.
The Hound has never stolen (I think?), and he even reinforced that during the first episode, then boom. The Jaime thing is more understandable, we don't have any strong evidence that he's really against rape, aside from the Brienne thing. He's been quarreling with almost everyone since his arrival, and almost everybody mocks him, so he's gotta be frustrated. Not to mention Cersei hasn't given him any since he got back.
Another thing that annoyed me was Aidan Gillen's acting (Petyr Baelish). His voice is the biggest reason, yeah. In season 1, he was just fine. He sounded "normal", yet he had a hint of pettiness and mockery, which was perfect. By season 2, it changed a bit but was acceptable, and at the beginning of season 3 he was basically channeling Batman. Maybe he has some sort of issue with his throat? It's been too inconsistent for no apparent reason, I'd say.
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Can we please stop calling it 'rape'?
Both the director and the book author have announced by now that it wasn't meant to be rape.
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Spaylz I think you are the first guy I saw that thought the Hound stealing stuff was out of character for him. You are talking about a guy here that bascially went rogue after he fled from Kings Landing and that kidnapped a girl to ransom her. He is talking all the time about his lack of money. He has said stuff like "killing is the sweetest thing there is". So maybe not killing the guy and only stealing is out of character. :D
Ok the last sentence was hyperbole but he surely never presented himself as a paragon of virtue.
Totally agree on Littlefingers voice, but that was already a problem in s3. Changing it now again would be strange as well.
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On April 23 2014 02:01 Spaylz wrote:
The Jaime thing is more understandable, we don't have any strong evidence that he's really against rape, aside from the Brienne thing. He's been quarreling with almost everyone since his arrival, and almost everybody mocks him, so he's gotta be frustrated. Not to mention Cersei hasn't given him any since he got back.
Jaime raped her because he felt powerless. She has him by the balls, and even after raping her, she still does. His father despises him, and everyone else outright hates him.
On April 23 2014 02:10 urboss wrote:
Can we please stop calling it 'rape'?
Both the director and the book author have announced by now that it wasn't meant to be rape.
It was clearly rape in the scene. Unambiguously. Don't know about outside the series, but the material on screen is clear. Han shot first.
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