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On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless.
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On November 13 2012 10:12 whatevername wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless.
There's a difference between optimistic thinking and common sense. He doesn't even seem to think of the possibility of a backup. He works in a lab. That's just clearly ridiculous.
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On November 13 2012 10:35 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 10:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless. There's a difference between optimistic thinking and common sense. He doesn't even seem to think of the possibility of a backup. He works in a lab. That's just clearly ridiculous.
Case 1: Dexter does not delete the files. They are backed up. Result: The files remain.
Case 2: Dexter does not delete the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files remain.
Case 3: Dexter deletes the files. They are backed up. Result: Minor inconvenience.
Case 4: Dexter deletes the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files are gone.
Now, Dexter is sitting at the computer in front of the files. What should he do?!
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On November 13 2012 11:31 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 10:35 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 10:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless. There's a difference between optimistic thinking and common sense. He doesn't even seem to think of the possibility of a backup. He works in a lab. That's just clearly ridiculous. Case 1: Dexter does not delete the files. They are backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 2: Dexter does not delete the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 3: Dexter deletes the files. They are backed up. Result: Minor inconvenience. Case 4: Dexter deletes the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files are gone. Now, Dexter is sitting at the computer in front of the files. What should he do?!
ummm.....hmmmmm....umm...Can I phone a friend?
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On November 13 2012 11:43 Xinder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On November 13 2012 10:35 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 10:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless. There's a difference between optimistic thinking and common sense. He doesn't even seem to think of the possibility of a backup. He works in a lab. That's just clearly ridiculous. Case 1: Dexter does not delete the files. They are backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 2: Dexter does not delete the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 3: Dexter deletes the files. They are backed up. Result: Minor inconvenience. Case 4: Dexter deletes the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files are gone. Now, Dexter is sitting at the computer in front of the files. What should he do?! ummm.....hmmmmm....umm...Can I phone a friend?
No, but you can talk to the psychological manifestation of your dead father.
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On November 13 2012 11:31 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 10:35 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 10:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless. There's a difference between optimistic thinking and common sense. He doesn't even seem to think of the possibility of a backup. He works in a lab. That's just clearly ridiculous. Case 1: Dexter does not delete the files. They are backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 2: Dexter does not delete the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 3: Dexter deletes the files. They are backed up. Result: Minor inconvenience. Case 4: Dexter deletes the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files are gone. Now, Dexter is sitting at the computer in front of the files. What should he do?!
Don't do it fool! It'll be obvious someone has been snooping around and therefore extra security will be put in place to prevent future breaches. The best course of action is to install a Key Logger on to the computer and also download a shitload of kiddie porn in order to fuck Pearce up.
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On November 13 2012 11:44 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 11:43 Xinder wrote:On November 13 2012 11:31 elmizzt wrote:On November 13 2012 10:35 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 10:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless. There's a difference between optimistic thinking and common sense. He doesn't even seem to think of the possibility of a backup. He works in a lab. That's just clearly ridiculous. Case 1: Dexter does not delete the files. They are backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 2: Dexter does not delete the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 3: Dexter deletes the files. They are backed up. Result: Minor inconvenience. Case 4: Dexter deletes the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files are gone. Now, Dexter is sitting at the computer in front of the files. What should he do?! ummm.....hmmmmm....umm...Can I phone a friend? No, but you can talk to the psychological manifestation of your dead father.
Well since my father is currently still alive that would be pretty awkward.
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On November 13 2012 11:31 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2012 10:35 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 10:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 09:45 GolemMadness wrote:On November 13 2012 04:12 whatevername wrote:On November 13 2012 00:32 dcemuser wrote:On November 13 2012 00:15 Kurr wrote:On November 12 2012 18:56 GolemMadness wrote:
Dexter: where writers don't back up their life's work. I googled this but can't find anything. Is this related to real life or part of the episode? Part of the episode. Dexter some files from an author's computer, and the previous poster is commenting on the fact that scenario is unrealistic because any professional writer would have at least one backup. He neglects to mention that this problem solved itself later in the episode. Honestly, what he truly neglects to mention is that we have no bloody idea if there were backups or not. Deleting someones files on a book isnt unrealistic because we were never even hinted at whether that was all of them or not, merely all that dexter came into contact with. People take the limited information of dexters perspective to be an example of perfect information, which is mind numbing its so stupid. What's wrong with you? It doesn't even matter if there are backups are not. The fact that Dexter thinks "I'll delete these files and that'll destroy his book" is ridiculous. He's obviously an intelligent person who's very proficient with computers. Why would he think that? Whats wrong with you? We established a long time ago hes an impulsive psychopath. He cant have optimistic thinking? It's not stretching incredulity at all to think he wouldnt have a backup, it would merely be an example that this guys careless. Some people are careless. There's a difference between optimistic thinking and common sense. He doesn't even seem to think of the possibility of a backup. He works in a lab. That's just clearly ridiculous. Case 1: Dexter does not delete the files. They are backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 2: Dexter does not delete the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files remain. Case 3: Dexter deletes the files. They are backed up. Result: Minor inconvenience. Case 4: Dexter deletes the files. They are not backed up. Result: The files are gone. Now, Dexter is sitting at the computer in front of the files. What should he do?!
I never said he should or shouldn't delete the files. I said that it's ridiculous for him to think "If I delete these files it'll ruin his whole book!"
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Actually he said it might ruin his book. IIRC the wording was "it might set him back, possibly it could ruin his book all together". It was entirely conditional. But of course as a butt hurt fan you interpret it as some absolute statement of total confidence by dexter just so you can bitch.
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Technically, all of those files can still be easily recovered. When you delete a file you remove the entry for that item from the disk directory. The data still remains on the disk until the space is over written.
If we want to be really anal, we could postulate that as a member of the forensics department Dexter would be aware of that possibility.
Edit: There is no real point to this. I usually cringe at anything tech related during movies and tv as the writers seldom get the details correct. It was just used to show Dexter is looking out for Hannah. Debra has access to Pearce's notebook / tapes / paper evidence anyways so we should treat it as a gesture of appreciation.
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On November 13 2012 15:35 whatevername wrote:
Actually he said it might ruin his book. IIRC the wording was "it might set him back, possibly it could ruin his book all together". It was entirely conditional. But of course as a butt hurt fan you interpret it as some absolute statement of total confidence by dexter just so you can bitch.
Not to mention the whole point in bringing up the possibility of deleting the files was for Hannah's benefit at which point Dexter tries to reason with himself about why he came in the first place, etc.
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On November 12 2012 23:26 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
if there is one lesson to ever be learned from the Dexter series it is to not date Debra Morgan. Debra is going to die next season. She's had so much fucked up shit happen to her, there's no way for the writers to make any good ending for her anymore.
But first she kills Laguerta when she finds out Dexter is the BHB.
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On November 13 2012 15:35 whatevername wrote:
Actually he said it might ruin his book. IIRC the wording was "it might set him back, possibly it could ruin his book all together". It was entirely conditional. But of course as a butt hurt fan you interpret it as some absolute statement of total confidence by dexter just so you can bitch.
Actually, I just made a comment initially. YOU were the one who started taking it ultra seriously and bitching about it. Maybe you need to calm down and stop insulting people because they interpret things on a show differently than you?
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I have to say, I find Michael C. Hall's sex-scenes in Dexter much more enjoyable than in Six Feet Under.
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Surely, SURELY he should wear a mask or something when breaking into people's homes on such a regular basis. Nanny cams aren't THAT rare after all, and when dealing with serial killers and what-not should surely be a decent precaution.
I do love his shirts though.
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i enjoy watching dexter since season 1
BUT: its super annoying that there die so many people who are personally involved with deb or dexter or the miami metro. its ridicoulous. i think that the only person who had something going with deb, and still alive is quinn. but guess what, he has a huge problem at hand with the russian guys. so he will die sooner or later.
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On November 13 2012 17:27 Elegy wrote:
Surely, SURELY he should wear a mask or something when breaking into people's homes on such a regular basis. Nanny cams aren't THAT rare after all, and when dealing with serial killers and what-not should surely be a decent precaution.
I do love his shirts though.
In order to deal with this and all the "Backup (y)olo"-posts.
Dexter is doing this for over 10 years. It is really not that uncommon to just walk up to a house without everyone noticing. I don't know how often I just climbed over the fence when I was younger in order to get to a friends house, instead of walking around the whole block (Best friends and the parents even recommended it). No one ever asked me what I am doing, or stopped me and I did this nearly every time and was seen countless times. People are not that paranoid in real life or just don't care, except maybe for direct neighbors. Plus he is lock picking the doors, so it looks like he is using a key. Would you scream at random people who are using a key to get into a house?
Backup:
I really love realistic movies. There are maybe 2 psycho movies I really love, even though it is my favorite genre, because nearly every horror/psycho/thriller destroys itself with unrealism/ghosts/paranormal stuff etc. In order to be able to watch and enjoy some of them (and most science fiction work I never cared about in my early life because of said reasons, but now really enjoy) is to just accept the world that is presented and assume that we just see 1 part of a X-part story. Maybe he had back-up files, but what would you want to see? Dexter randomly sceemin through the house searching for discs, usb-sticks and hds looking through all of them, checking every detail and then still worrying himself about possible back ups in houses of friends etc? Thats pretty boring, but yeah ... realistic. But if you take that approach you will very soon fall into a trap with dexter. So just enjoy the presented world and assume he did all that, but we don't see it in order to spare us 1-2 boring minutes and fanserve us with more isaac and hannah.
I hope I was able to explain myself as objectively as possible - I have no intent to do harm.
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I really enjoy the way Isaac is shown to us. Currently he is one of my favorite characters of the whole show. I really liked the rapist-boss (what was he called? in season 5 with his psychotic ticks) and the scene where he had this motivational speech "You just need to TAKE IT!" while Dexter was browsing through his rape victims and the crowd cheering - goose pumps. And now we've got an even better villain. I actually rooted for the geek guy because it was the first time we saw a normal guy BECOME the villain but then they just wrote him off like that - which was disappointing to say the least. On another note: The whole deb-dex love plot was pretty great! In season 2 I started to really hate Rita and everytime she got screentime I wished that she would be replaced. On the other hand from the first moment on he said that he loved Deb and in season 1 he said IF he would ever be able to love - then Deb. So... not blood related - why not!? It would've been perfect. I really hope it will be a massive plot between Deb-dex-hannah later on with Deb wanting Dex to kill Hannah, Hannah wanting Dex to abandon Deb and killing her herself and Deb finding out, being jealous and wanting to kill hannah herself etc.
Sidenote: If he felt love for the first time (last episode "might be the start of what they call love") how on earth did he manage to stay with rita? I mean in season 3 Dexter spent more time on his knees than her (ba-dum-tzz) apologizing for every little thing he did, or might have done. What!? No wonder he wanted Layla in season 2 - Rita was just like Skyler in Breaking Bad. Fan fact: Dexter was together with 3 killers so far (Layla, Lumen, Hannah).
Oh and where is my quinn vs Dex plot? Didn't he suspect him in season 5/6-ish? Had surveillance cameras on him and that one creppy ex-police officer? I mean he didn't got the information but he knew that something was fishy and backed off because of Deb. Well know he doesn't need to worry about her anymore so... ?
All in all really looking forward to it!
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The quinn plot is just one of the many plots which have been developed through a season, only to be ignored or retconned the following season.
1)Batista and La Guerta
2) Batista and random detective from Narcotics
3) Quinn as dirty cop (guess they've brought that back now though)
4) Quinn suspecting Dexter
5) Video game nerd as a proper villain
6) Lumen riding off into the sunset
There are probably more but I forget them all.
Between this and the increasingly annoying product placement I sort of wish we could have skipped a few seasons. The writing deteriorated between 2-7 and no character progression occurred. We went from a storyline to the random adventures of dexter. The series was carried by good acting on the part of Michael C. Hall and good writing for his character (obviously Trinity and big moments like Rita's death helped).
Honestly, when I show this program to my grandchildren I'm going to lie to them and tell them that there is no seasons 3,5 and 6. Sort of like star wars.
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On November 13 2012 21:43 ...what wrote:
The quinn plot is just one of the many plots which have been developed through a season, only to be ignored or retconned the following season.
1)Batista and La Guerta
2) Batista and random detective from Narcotics
3) Quinn as dirty cop (guess they've brought that back now though)
4) Quinn suspecting Dexter
5) Video game nerd as a proper villain
6) Lumen riding off into the sunset
There are probably more but I forget them all.
Between this and the increasingly annoying product placement I sort of wish we could have skipped a few seasons. The writing deteriorated between 2-7 and no character progression occurred. We went from a storyline to the random adventures of dexter. The series was carried by good acting on the part of Michael C. Hall and good writing for his character (obviously Trinity and big moments like Rita's death helped).
Honestly, when I show this program to my grandchildren I'm going to lie to them and tell them that there is no seasons 3,5 and 6. Sort of like star wars.
There was some of Quinn suspecting Dexter last episode. He questions Jamie, she says that she heard Sal raising his voice but nobody else, then when he questions Dexter, he says that he was the one shouting, and Quinn gives him a suspicious sort of look.
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