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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 00:51 GMT
#21
The series is heavily influenced by Spielberg and the movies of the 80s like Stand By Me and ET. The predictability of the plot is a give in during these sorts of films, they are genre. The series has remarkable depth if you appreciate the production, stream lined plot and the films ability to explain alot with very little. And the series does take some twists during the course of eight episodes.

But, no, its no Breaking Bad. Because that isn't what the creators wanted to make. And the target audience isn't just 12-18 year olds. Its everyone from 12-18 and 30 plus years old. It might not do well in the cynical, elitist twenty somethings demographic.
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ObeseHydra
Profile Joined March 2013
Brazil196 Posts
July 19 2016 02:36 GMT
#22
It's no Breaking Bad, but no other series had me so hooked since I heard "Baby Blue" at the end of it... =)

Hyped for season 2!
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 03:44:35
July 19 2016 03:43 GMT
#23
On July 19 2016 05:06 Hider wrote:
Well I feel like a 9.2 rating if the target group is a 12-18 year olds would be appropriate. Alot of teenagers probably don't have the same need for depth and is likely to be more excited by the thriller and the easy to follow story. But I just don't see anything in the show that indicated that adults should be the target group.


This show is most definitely not targeted at 12-18 year olds but rather the 30+ who watched tv and movies in the 80's and 90's who get the vibe they are going for.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 07:10:14
July 19 2016 06:42 GMT
#24
Definitely targeted at adults. Not everything is about narrative depth, this show has an excellent score, some surprisingly good child actors and it's predictable mainly because of its reliance on nostalgia. It seems you really prefer 'deep', unpredictable narratives and think everyone should watch and enjoy things the same way as you do. The skipping of scenes is just silly, if you're gonna do that just drop the show, you lose any immersion or feelings towards the characters. Any criticism once you start skipping is flawed as you're not watching the whole product, just leapfrogging from scene to scene adding up sterile plot points, of course it sucks then.
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crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
July 19 2016 09:22 GMT
#25
Thought this show would suck by reading the description "kids and a mother looking for her son". Movies and shows are so much more then not being predictable. It's by feeling it, making it alive like your living the show. This show had that, it was very well made, and I am the targeted audience as well being 30+

I would say the IMDB rating was spot on. But then again, I didn't care for Sopranos
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 13:22:53
July 19 2016 12:57 GMT
#26
It seems you really prefer 'deep', unpredictable narratives


Yes
and think everyone should watch and enjoy the same thing as you do


I mentioned mulitple times that this was my opinion. I guess your just the type of person who wants it to be illegal for people to have a different opinion.

The skipping of scenes is just silly


From my perspective its silly to waste time watching scenes that you think are boring. Not sure why you would claim other people should be forced to spend time something they don't enjoy. Or perhaps you just think everyone should be enjoying this type of show and not be allowed to have a different opinion?

I guess you probably just have a real double standard there.

This show is most definitely not targeted at 12-18 year olds but rather the 30+ who watched tv and movies in the 80's and 90's who get the vibe they are going for.


Well I also never cared about nostalagia and thought 90s shows were boring, so that's probably it. Like the reason I say it reminds of a kids show is that it had a lot of similarities to alot of the stuff I watched in the 90s and was modestly entertained by back then. But today I am just looking for something else.

The series has remarkable depth if you appreciate the production, stream lined plot and the films ability to explain alot with very littl


That's not really depth, but I don't deny that the show does do things well. It's just not what I am looking for in a show.

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 13:22 GMT
#27
Then maybe tone down the elitism claiming the show was made for teenagers who need simple plots. It's a bad look.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 13:44:26
July 19 2016 13:32 GMT
#28
On July 19 2016 22:22 Plansix wrote:
Then maybe tone down the elitism claiming the show was made for teenagers who need simple plots.


Let's take a look at the defintition of an elistist:

Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals who form an elite—a select group of people with a certain ancestry, intrinsic quality or worth, high intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes—are those whose influence or authority is greater than that of others; whose ...


I speculated over the target group on a discussion forum based on the fact that the characters and plot were simplistic w/ a similar story being used many times before. From my experience that typically attracts a yonger audience.

However, I never claimed that my opinion was more valuable than others. All I implied was that I wasn't the target group and usually I have been the target group for most of the 9+ rated IMDB shows, hence why I felt deceived.

So in the future please stick to focussing on the ball instead of the man. If you think I am wrong with my target group assesment (which I admittely was), then correct me.

It's a bad look.


What's a bad look? That I was wrong in my target group assesment or that I had a different opinion than yours and I am not allowed to have a different opinion? Everyone who has a different opinion than yours needs to be labelled an elitist?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 13:54:04
July 19 2016 13:53 GMT
#29
Just telling you the tone of comment comes off as you thinking you are too good for the series. If you don't like criticism if the way you communicate, don't post things on the internet. Especially when you freely admit to skipping around and not watching it as intended. Considering complexity can be found in the nuance scene, choice in music, lighting, unspoken exchanges between actors. Since you have hamstrung your ability to assess the series by skipping around, you missed out on a lot of the touches that make the series is great.

If this was an academic discussion and someone tried to critique a book they had not complete read, they would be shut down instantly.
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
July 19 2016 14:19 GMT
#30
The way you talk comes off a bit arrogant Hider. It's funny how many people only care about plot/characters in movies/series when there's so much more going on in there. For me a good score that pairs well with the scenes it goes with can make me watch something by itself.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 19 2016 15:18 GMT
#31
For those who have gotten through episode 3, can we talk about the cat scene and the amazing head tilt into awesome that takes place. Because whole fuck I cheer out loud when that shit happened.

And I am really disappointed in the internet for not having gifs of that shit on lop until the end of time.
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crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 15:54:38
July 19 2016 15:54 GMT
#32
On July 19 2016 21:57 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
It seems you really prefer 'deep', unpredictable narratives


Show nested quote +
The series has remarkable depth if you appreciate the production, stream lined plot and the films ability to explain alot with very littl


That's not really depth, but I don't deny that the show does do things well. It's just not what I am looking for in a show.



That's not really depth? Depth is subjective, in my opinion, and if the show comes "alive" for you, that's depth right there. Complex plot and dialogues is not depth on it's own.
Too bad you didn't "get" the show, as in got-sucked-into-it
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
July 19 2016 22:48 GMT
#33
Loved the series and looking forward to season 2.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 20 2016 00:11 GMT
#34
Ok i watched the rest and i have to say that overall i really enjoyed it even though i was not 100% happy how the plot developed at the end.
The general ending was great though

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and the last D&D scene was meta as fuck :D
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
July 20 2016 13:28 GMT
#35
Is it going to be like True Detectives and have a completely different cast/story for season 2?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 20 2016 16:32 GMT
#36
On July 20 2016 22:28 Scarecrow wrote:
Is it going to be like True Detectives and have a completely different cast/story for season 2?

That does not seem to be the case, but the directors have not really discussed much beyond “it would be fun to do another season. We have ideas and left some things unclear for that reason.” I bet they would keep some of the cast.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
July 20 2016 16:51 GMT
#37
On July 19 2016 05:06 Hider wrote:
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I cant even comprehend how you could in any way evaluate something when you skip 80% of it.


You see the start of a scene. Then you guess what happens afterwards. When you turn out to be correct almost everytime and most of the scenes are boring and stereotypical anyway, then you start skipping towards the end of every scene.

People actually do this...?
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9625 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 12:24:16
July 21 2016 12:22 GMT
#38
I'm only through episode 6 today but it feels kind of average to me. like good, I'm going to finish it, but I feel like I don't quite get the hype. I really had to push through eps 2-4.

killer soundtrack tho.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 13:43:12
July 21 2016 13:41 GMT
#39
i'll be starting this soon, thanks for posting about it!

On July 21 2016 01:51 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 05:06 Hider wrote:
I cant even comprehend how you could in any way evaluate something when you skip 80% of it.


You see the start of a scene. Then you guess what happens afterwards. When you turn out to be correct almost everytime and most of the scenes are boring and stereotypical anyway, then you start skipping towards the end of every scene.

People actually do this...?


i know some people who do this, and my mom does this also. a lot of people just want something running in the backround. white-noise, etc. i'll do this with streams that are chill.

people do this with esports teams and sports. like they'll tune in predicting that the chinese will lose and stick around just to see it happen, posting in the LR about how right they are in the meanwhile or using the result to further their argumentative agenda.

there were times where i felt it was a waste of time if i wasn't multitasking and listening to music or a podcast, watching something, and doing some calculations or something else in the meanwhile, all while playing a game in windowed mode. so much was taken out of each activity that it enabled me to stay attentive (or rather, less bored) while doing necessary ingame grinding or getting through subscriptions/sorting through things.
it also meant that i had to go back and re-experience a lot of the finer things, often entirely missing the better parts due to ignorance or what have you.

my mom does the same with her ipad, phone and television dramas. she'll be doing stuff and watching at the same time, but not really watching. she is also a dirty scene skipper. the reason this stuck out to me is because i asked her why she was doing this or if she was really watching. all she had to say was that she knew what was happening. to be fair, soap-operas do tend to have less art to them.

however, the difference is that my mom and myself are doing this to multitask or to have something extra running at the same time, not specifically because we don't see the need to focus entirely on the one thing, which is watching the show.

i've recently just gotten back into tv-series and i feel the most compelling things are the ways in which production uses scenes to foreshadow and storytell, and facial expressions worn by the many actors (most usually the leads). if it's all in good taste, it's very gripping.

thanks again for the recommendation.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
July 22 2016 00:45 GMT
#40
I'm liking this show quite a bit. 1 episode left to watch, very sad it's already coming to an end. It's certainly somewhat flawed but the good outweighs the bad pretty dramatically, they certainly get the atmosphere on point and IMO the acting is really really good.
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