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On October 20 2016 01:25 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 21:25 karazax wrote:On October 19 2016 03:41 IgnE wrote:
this whole "weapons privileges" though seems like nonsense. it does nothing to explain why hosts with weapon privileges are unable to kill humans. like how does the gun know its pointing at a human and that it should only shoot like a weak BB or whatever it is? and if weapons can't harm humans anyway what's the point of "weapon privileges"? It's a fail safe so that they only have to worry about X amount of hosts even possibly having a malfunction and doing something that could harm humans. Dolores was able to break the fail safe. Here is an explanation of why real guns wouldn't fire at real people in the original movie: When Peter (a first-timer) asks John (a veteran parkgoer) how he can be sure the "people" he kills aren't really alive, John tells his friend to try shooting him to see what happens. Peter points his gun at John, and tries to pull the trigger. Nothing happens. "The gun has a sensing device," John says. "It won't fire at anything with a high body temperature. Only something cold like a machine." "Hmm. They've thought of everything," Peter replies. the "cold robots" hypothesis doesn't make sense either though. why would anyone have sex with a cold robot?
Yeah that was the way it worked in the original movie, but they could have sensors that only arm the gun when they detect they are aimed at a host. Of course you still have to wonder about stray bullets, or bullets that might go clean thru a host and hit a guest. or ricochet, ect. So I tend to agree that the best theory so far is that always fire the pellets and the hosts are just designed to take wounds from those pellets as if they were real bullets.
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I think there will be quite a bit of unexplained almost-magical technology in there. I wouldn't worry about something as small as the selective bullet thing. If you wonder about that, you might as well wonder about how the androids are powered, for example :D.
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On October 18 2016 09:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
First episodes he admires them because humanity has reached it's limit/peak then he goes off and cut one to show they aren't real but he designs them to bleed and so forth.
I think showing admiration when someone who understands your thinking already is in the room is appropriate. Showing the admiration to a newbie who doesn't 100% believe that they are nothing but machines might be a dangerous thing, though.
edit: Anyway, I love the show, the music, the crazy world building in store and already showed. Geez, I wish I could have been part of the crew just to know how everything was done. Lovely.
Also that younger version of Anthony Hopkins was crazy good. Hats off to the craftsmen who made that scene come to life.
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Pretty damn awesome so far, with much more interesting character development than your average show
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On October 20 2016 03:34 ZenithM wrote:
I think there will be quite a bit of unexplained almost-magical technology in there. I wouldn't worry about something as small as the selective bullet thing. If you wonder about that, you might as well wonder about how the androids are powered, for example :D.
Yeah, it is very weird and inconsistent with guns. But being HBO and having crates of fake blood that will go unused in Game of Thrones, I'm sure Westworld will make it appropriately horrible when the androids stab and axe people to death.
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Sweden33719 Posts
Waiting for new episodes of this one is going to really suck.... This is truly great. Wish it was a Netflix style release so I could just binge it.
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On October 20 2016 05:55 OtherWorld wrote:
Pretty damn awesome so far, with much more interesting character development than your average show
I think in general the characters are the low point of the series so far. Mystery, themes and the production value are the strengths.
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I definitely disagree; the damsel and the cowboy are superbly acted. Their coming to self-consciousness is given a very subtle but convincing touch by both of the performers (And that's not even touching on Ed Harris nor Anthony Hopkins; I think the dude from Boardwalk Empire is the weakest).
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It's not the acting i have a problem with. It's moreso that no character is really interesting as a character so far with maybe 1-2 exceptions.
It's more the mystery and theme of self-consciousness, memory, etc which are done well.
Obviously it's still pretty early to say that after three episodes though. Lot of character development could still happen.
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I dunno, I find that all the main human characters have a lot of ambiguity to them (except the gross storyline guy, though I'm not sure if he qualifies as "main"), which is pretty exciting. As for the hosts, they're not very exciting for now, but that's normal.
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On October 21 2016 02:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
It's not the acting i have a problem with. It's moreso that no character is really interesting as a character so far with maybe 1-2 exceptions.
It's more the mystery and theme of self-consciousness, memory, etc which are done well.
Obviously it's still pretty early to say that after three episodes though. Lot of character development could still happen.
I am with you in this one, they better begin to allow some character development soon because this chapter for me was like a tiny step forward from the second one, something big has to happen if they want to replace GoT with this show. It is good but not a game changer.
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episode 2 and 3 barely pushed the story forward at all. Just random inconsequential events and some new characters introduced.
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On October 22 2016 02:46 sertas wrote:
episode 2 and 3 barely pushed the story forward at all. Just random inconsequential events and some new characters introduced.
They are building the world and distinguishing which problems are normal and which are not. The weird thing is the androids don't have characters that need developing so much as individual stories and loops that need to be explained because it is different from human habits.
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Loved this episode, man in black and Ford's story lines in particular.
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As the show follows the MiB and Ford, it's fascinating to see how big Westworld is and that obscure stories are playing out every day in this world without the vast majority of guests.
The company behind the park is incredibly stupid for making changes on the fly, especially with writers seeming to undermine Ford and the editorial process. Since they're playing it out among the hosts, I feel like there would be a virtual parallel world host interactions would be predicted and simulated, rather than updating the androids while guests are actually in the park.
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Sweden33719 Posts
MiB storyline is kinda boring to me... the maze I'm guessing is just some kind of more advanced Turing test, which is cool but I find his storyline too mystical.
The rest is great tho and his storyline might still be fun in the end (it started off great, though I thought it was just setting us up for him getting killed brutally later).
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On October 21 2016 02:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2016 05:55 OtherWorld wrote:
Pretty damn awesome so far, with much more interesting character development than your average show
I think in general the characters are the low point of the series so far. Mystery, themes and the production value are the strengths.
Pretty much my thought as well. I feel like I don't really care about the characters. But the overall story arc is still kinda interesting.
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I think the Maze is a place where the guests are not restricted from being killed. It seems to be one of MiB's problem with the park, no challenge because there is no threat of death.
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Just throwing this idea out here: Bernard could be a host. People have been speculating that he carries on Arnold's will and that his son dying is just a backstory like the one given to Teddy and others. Ford also talks to him sometimes saying "... won't you, Bernard?" which is used as a command phrase on the hosts.
If Bernard is a host, it readily explains why Ford knows so much about the employees, like Theresa sleeping with him. I kinda hope they have more in store for him instead of just being a rehashed revelation from the first episode á la Teddy.
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