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bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 21:12:40
November 26 2014 23:53 GMT
#1381
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idk why the image wont work, it is georges duby, the early growth of the european econony
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 27 2014 03:08 GMT
#1382
Anyone know if there is a good Rembrandt biography out there?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 27 2014 05:20 GMT
#1383
Anyone have recommendations on Bernard Williams?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 06:53:52
November 27 2014 06:49 GMT
#1384
In regards to what? He has written some pretty good stuff on a variety of topics in moral philosophy. His criticism of Utilitarianism through an indictment of its consequentialist nature is pretty good, as are his early writings on how identity in relation to the self and its body presents us with some interesting problems of reflection. The latter matches up really interestingly with Lacan's writings in which he "returns to Freud"; the two don't actually conflict as one might first think given the wildly different philosophical predilections of the two thinkers.

So, check out Problems of the Self, Descartes: The Project of Pure Inquiry, and Utilitarianism: For and Against imo.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 27 2014 10:29 GMT
#1385
What should I read from Derrida ?
I want to be in.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
November 27 2014 15:22 GMT
#1386
Start with Plato's Pharmacy IMO, it's a great introduction to the concept of "trace" and Derrida's general approach.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 03:20:28
November 28 2014 03:20 GMT
#1387
Can someone explain to me what's so great about Derrida? From a layman's perspective it looks like the guy just made up cool sounding words that are basically intellectual gibberish
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 05:41:57
November 28 2014 05:26 GMT
#1388
Much of what Derrida wrote is gibberish, and this falls rather nicely in line with the idea that a lot of postmodernist thought can be chalked up to the collective inability of mid-20th century thinkers to grapple with the concept of television. Nevertheless, I think that some of Derrida's writings are incredibly useful when it comes to expanding one's understanding of how text, context, and meaning interact or even exist as ideas.

For example, and this is why I recommend it so, "Plato's Pharmacy" does a good job (unusual for Derrida) of explaining his concept of "trace," which could be thought of as a postmodern take on what exactly "surrounds" a given piece of writing. In describing the conspicuous absence of the word "pharmakos" in Plato's writings like Phaedrus and comparing that with Plato's frequent use of words like "pharmakon" and "pharmakeus" in similar works, Derrida basically establishes that every intentional implementation of a word brings with it an indefinite cloud of meaningful absence, particularly in the case of words meant to signify concepts that are simply "too big" for one word. In other words, the meaning behind a given piece of writing, if such a thing actually exists, hinges on both the words on the page and the words that have played or do play a role in signifying the ideas that the words on the page are meant to represent (in addition to the host of other factors that go into building a "background" for a given text, though Derrida would probably scoff at the ordination of "front" and "back" lol).

Much of deconstruction revolves around a similar thread, that being the idea that an overt focus on a "thing" in and of itself misses out on much of what goes into the construction of the meaning of said "thing," such as the "shadows" of words intentionally not used or the phraseology of rhetoric tossed aside during the authorial process or used by a different writer. Unfortunately, that Derrida wrote in, according to the French-speakers I know, exceedingly obtuse French that translates into even more obscure English really dissuades people from actually giving his work a shot; to make matters worse, this was intentional by Derrida and its a theory of mine that Derrida's intentional obscurantism plays a direct role in the "performance" of his theory, which, of course, only makes his ideas even harder to access.

Though I've only scraped the surface (it feels disingenuous, in attempting to explain the worth of Derrida, to not mention the fact that most of Derrida's work can be chalked up to Derrida feeling that he was the only person on the planet who was in on Heidegger's "big joke"), I certainly do feel that Derrida's works contain some exceedingly valuable insight given that one develops a tolerance for utter bullshit
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-28 18:04:54
November 28 2014 18:02 GMT
#1389
Told myself I'd only read 25 pages of Seraphina last night and go to bed, next thing I know it's past 3:00 and I'm done with the book.

Which was great, actually. First half was slow, but once things started happening, the book's pacing picked up. The plot was very well worked out, I really loved some of the characters (Orma, esp.) and the relationships between them all (Seraphina's relationship with her dad and Orma; Orma's and Linn's relationship with Imlann, etc.). The writing style was extraordinarily crisp -- almost too crisp, imo; the story could've done with more weight in the words. My only other objection is the treatment of institutionalized religion in the story; the book took a very fantasy-esque approach to it, but it started gaining a tad more nuance near the end of the story, which was nice. All minor objections. Great book.

Not enjoying Gene Wolfe's short stories as much: very much "here are ideas, let me skip the story part of it though," which is very bleh. Sometimes he hits a good note, but most of them have been duds.

Now onto Iliad fanfiction (The Song of Achilles)!

Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
November 28 2014 21:02 GMT
#1390
On November 28 2014 14:26 farvacola wrote:
Much of what Derrida wrote is gibberish, and this falls rather nicely in line with the idea that a lot of postmodernist thought can be chalked up to the collective inability of mid-20th century thinkers to grapple with the concept of television.
I would like to hear more about this
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bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
November 28 2014 21:14 GMT
#1391
recently i've been assigned some late Derrida, it's weird because you can actually understand it, which of course ruins the entire effect
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 29 2014 00:38 GMT
#1392
Everyone Else Must Fail, Karen Southwick

A biography of Larry Ellison. A bit sensationalized and biased, but pretty thorough. Southwick doesn't really go through the history of Oracle chronologically instead going through a bunch of parallel storylines, so it ends up being a bit repetitive. Meh. (Book was chosen from a bunch of other ones for a class)

A Beautiful Mind, Sylvie Nasar
A biography of John Nash, the basis for the movie starring Russell Crowe. A reread. Pretty good book, very well-researched, and the author's wit really carries through. Beautifully written.
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bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 19:18:37
November 30 2014 19:17 GMT
#1393
some stuff for class this week

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also my first application is due today.. .ughhhhh... i am trying to finish up my statement of purpose but this shit is so draining... I hope I get in someplace otherwise I am gonna have to sell my body on the street next year or smth to pay for books...
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18834 Posts
November 30 2014 19:26 GMT
#1394
I believe in your purpose
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 30 2014 20:16 GMT
#1395
Love the Pavic book, do tell what you made of it afterwards
And gl !
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 20:38:50
November 30 2014 20:38 GMT
#1396
I read about half of it last night... it's a cool thing but it is a bit too metafiction-y for me these days, I would have loved it a lot more when I was 18 I think. A little too nonsensical. but it's definitely a super-cool book
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-30 21:02:31
November 30 2014 21:02 GMT
#1397
On November 27 2014 08:53 bookwyrm wrote:
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idk why the image wont work, it is georges duby, the early growth of the european econony


Do you play dwarf fortress? I was listening to a podcast with Toady and he said that he was reading this book for inspiration.
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
November 30 2014 21:08 GMT
#1398
Haha I never have but i've thought about it sometimes. It might be too hardcore/not GUI enough for me. glad to hear gamer podcasts pushing the economic history tho...
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
December 01 2014 18:54 GMT
#1399
"German Quickly" by Wilson

"French for Reading" by Sandberg

Now you too can effectively trick your department into thinking you can read and comprehend German and French academic articles!
bookwyrm
Profile Joined March 2014
United States722 Posts
December 01 2014 21:47 GMT
#1400
Fake it till you make it. The main lesson of grad school.
si hortum in bibliotheca habes, deerit nihil
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