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Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
August 02 2013 22:27 GMT
#901
On August 03 2013 07:15 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 06:25 Maxie wrote:
Well, finally got to watch it. Was good, but not enough of the Jaegers that weren't Striker or Gypsy. Also, boring main character, didn't like him at all. Scientists were the best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Striker Eureka sexiest Jaeger

Gypsy Danger wasn't boring....


Fine, one of her pilots was boring.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
August 02 2013 22:33 GMT
#902
well, that movie was a fucking disaster (watched in imax)

i mean, the monsters were fucking generic, rip eardrums, yeah,...
the throws never bothered me anyway
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 02 2013 22:56 GMT
#903
On August 03 2013 02:44 Ferrose wrote:
Did anyone else keep seeing the scientist guy with the glasses as Day[9]?


More like JJ Abrams.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
August 02 2013 23:26 GMT
#904
some of it was really good, most of it okay or boring and could have been swapped for much better things, some of it was EMBARRASSINGLY bad


it had a similar feel to evangelion in that suddenly things could get fucked up and the jaeger is unexpectedly and abruptly smashed up and the pilots brutally killed

if the movie had gone a mature route (and cut some of the boring/generic shit) it might have been really good and impactful

basically

1) more jaeger/character development and interaction (less generic)
2) drop the "silly scientist" shit with their "suddenly i know all these extra important plot parts coz i read their mind"
3) extreme brutality leading to emotional impactfulness when jaeger pilots suddenly die
4) actually fuck it just watch evangelion, it is basically this movie but done perfectly, from the characters being 1000 times more interesting and impactful, to the "out of control jaeger" scene actually being suspensful and having someone burning their hands off, etc etc
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 02 2013 23:31 GMT
#905
On August 03 2013 08:26 FFGenerations wrote:
some of it was really good, most of it okay or boring and could have been swapped for much better things, some of it was EMBARRASSINGLY bad


it had a similar feel to evangelion in that suddenly things could get fucked up and the jaeger is unexpectedly and abruptly smashed up and the pilots brutally killed

if the movie had gone a mature route (and cut some of the boring/generic shit) it might have been really good and impactful

basically

1) more jaeger/character development and interaction (less generic)
2) drop the "silly scientist" shit with their "suddenly i know all these extra important plot parts coz i read their mind"
3) extreme brutality leading to emotional impactfulness when jaeger pilots suddenly die
4) actually fuck it just watch evangelion, it is basically this movie but done perfectly, from the characters being 1000 times more interesting and impactful, to the "out of control jaeger" scene actually being suspensful and having someone burning their hands off, etc etc

The movie is nothing like Evangelion, please stop spreading this trash.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 02 2013 23:41 GMT
#906
Great movie, awesome action, super robots

It was nothing like Evangelion, seriously
:3
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
August 03 2013 00:40 GMT
#907
On August 03 2013 07:15 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 06:25 Maxie wrote:
Well, finally got to watch it. Was good, but not enough of the Jaegers that weren't Striker or Gypsy. Also, boring main character, didn't like him at all. Scientists were the best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Striker Eureka sexiest Jaeger

Gypsy Danger wasn't boring....


+ Show Spoiler +

It had guns and a working ejection system.
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
August 03 2013 07:58 GMT
#908
On August 03 2013 08:26 FFGenerations wrote:
some of it was really good, most of it okay or boring and could have been swapped for much better things, some of it was EMBARRASSINGLY bad


it had a similar feel to evangelion in that suddenly things could get fucked up and the jaeger is unexpectedly and abruptly smashed up and the pilots brutally killed

if the movie had gone a mature route (and cut some of the boring/generic shit) it might have been really good and impactful

basically

1) more jaeger/character development and interaction (less generic)
2) drop the "silly scientist" shit with their "suddenly i know all these extra important plot parts coz i read their mind"
3) extreme brutality leading to emotional impactfulness when jaeger pilots suddenly die
4) actually fuck it just watch evangelion, it is basically this movie but done perfectly, from the characters being 1000 times more interesting and impactful, to the "out of control jaeger" scene actually being suspensful and having someone burning their hands off, etc etc


Yeah, I've watched everything there is to watch of Evangelion, the movies are entirely distinct. Fine, they might have some basic tech stuff which is similar but even that doesn't hold water if you look closely, the Evangelions weren't even mechas, they were armored creatures!

And I'm glad Pacific Rim did not go down the usual anime theme of "teenage angst and awkward sexual encounters everywhere" leading into mind-fucking people into thinking they are horrible perverted creatures (with allusions to some happy happy philosophy such as "we are all one" or some other nonsense that was rooted out of real philosophy in the middle ages).
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 03 2013 17:25 GMT
#909
On August 03 2013 06:25 Maxie wrote:
Well, finally got to watch it. Was good, but not enough of the Jaegers that weren't Striker or Gypsy. Also, boring main character, didn't like him at all. Scientists were the best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Striker Eureka sexiest Jaeger


Agreed. Honestly, anyone who came into this movie for story or a solid plot are stupid. You come into this like you came into 2012 or Avatar: "Let's enjoy us some goddamn giant robots fighting giant monsters."
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
August 03 2013 17:34 GMT
#910
On August 03 2013 08:31 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 08:26 FFGenerations wrote:
some of it was really good, most of it okay or boring and could have been swapped for much better things, some of it was EMBARRASSINGLY bad


it had a similar feel to evangelion in that suddenly things could get fucked up and the jaeger is unexpectedly and abruptly smashed up and the pilots brutally killed

if the movie had gone a mature route (and cut some of the boring/generic shit) it might have been really good and impactful

basically

1) more jaeger/character development and interaction (less generic)
2) drop the "silly scientist" shit with their "suddenly i know all these extra important plot parts coz i read their mind"
3) extreme brutality leading to emotional impactfulness when jaeger pilots suddenly die
4) actually fuck it just watch evangelion, it is basically this movie but done perfectly, from the characters being 1000 times more interesting and impactful, to the "out of control jaeger" scene actually being suspensful and having someone burning their hands off, etc etc

The movie is nothing like Evangelion, please stop spreading this trash.

/agree, this movie was more of an homage to series like Power Rangers and Ultraman. The idea of someone seeing this movie hoping for a "mature" plot is laughable.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
August 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#911
eLbOw RockEt enGAGED
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 03 2013 18:09 GMT
#912
I figured you guys might enjoy this.

[image loading]
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
August 03 2013 18:23 GMT
#913
1) This movie is a love letter to anyone whose childhood was spent watching mecha. It is amazing.
2) It's not trying to be Eva... but it's a great tribute to it. I mean this movie is basically squeezing an entire genre into just over two hours. It doesn't have time to set up something with significant gravitas AND also hit all the right notes of the genre.
3) Glados asking whether anyone wants to try again
4) I actually thought that the mega cheesy and obvious cockpit dialogue that basically explains the most obvious things is taking a page right out of the genre's roots. I mean in anime, people say like really really obvious things in the heat of the moment. Stuff like "hang in there!" "together we can do it!"
5) It is unforatunely the WORST movie to watch while wanting to pee. it's ALWAY RAINING. THERE"S WATER EVERYWHERE!!! ARGH.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 18:39:13
August 03 2013 18:39 GMT
#914
On August 04 2013 03:23 levelping wrote:
1) This movie is a love letter to anyone whose childhood was spent watching mecha. It is amazing.
2) It's not trying to be Eva... but it's a great tribute to it. I mean this movie is basically squeezing an entire genre into just over two hours. It doesn't have time to set up something with significant gravitas AND also hit all the right notes of the genre.
3) Glados asking whether anyone wants to try again
4) I actually thought that the mega cheesy and obvious cockpit dialogue that basically explains the most obvious things is taking a page right out of the genre's roots. I mean in anime, people say like really really obvious things in the heat of the moment. Stuff like "hang in there!" "together we can do it!"
5) It is unforatunely the WORST movie to watch while wanting to pee. it's ALWAY RAINING. THERE"S WATER EVERYWHERE!!! ARGH.

It is a tribute to the mecha and kaiju genre of anime and film, as a whole. But it is not a 'tribute' to Evangelion, specifically. Guillermo del Toro has commented that he has not even watched Evangelion, and that influences he did draw for the movie include anime like Tetsujin 28 and Patlabor.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
August 03 2013 18:47 GMT
#915
On August 04 2013 03:39 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 03:23 levelping wrote:
1) This movie is a love letter to anyone whose childhood was spent watching mecha. It is amazing.
2) It's not trying to be Eva... but it's a great tribute to it. I mean this movie is basically squeezing an entire genre into just over two hours. It doesn't have time to set up something with significant gravitas AND also hit all the right notes of the genre.
3) Glados asking whether anyone wants to try again
4) I actually thought that the mega cheesy and obvious cockpit dialogue that basically explains the most obvious things is taking a page right out of the genre's roots. I mean in anime, people say like really really obvious things in the heat of the moment. Stuff like "hang in there!" "together we can do it!"
5) It is unforatunely the WORST movie to watch while wanting to pee. it's ALWAY RAINING. THERE"S WATER EVERYWHERE!!! ARGH.

It is a tribute to the mecha and kaiju genre of anime and film, as a whole. But it is not a 'tribute' to Evangelion, specifically. Guillermo del Toro has commented that he has not even watched Evangelion, and that influences he did draw for the movie include anime like Tetsujin 28 and Patlabor.


While del Toro might not have watched Eva i'm sure most people in production would have. I think there were some visual shots that were very evocative of Eva. I'm thinking in particular near the end where a jaeger is silhouetted against an alien sun. That shot seemed right out of Eva (to me).

but yeah I see it as a tribute to the genre as a whole, and not eva in particular.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 03 2013 19:07 GMT
#916
On August 03 2013 08:41 Forumite wrote:
Great movie, awesome action, super robots

It was nothing like Evangelion, seriously


Yeah, Guillermo del Toro was shooting for an homage, but still a unique entry into the mecha/kaiju genres. Evangelion does share the genre, but it's closer to Godzilla, Mazinger Z, or Big O. The very first kaiju looks like this guy from Panzer Dragoon.

It's true that it could have went the mature route. But the director was shooting for the stuff he watched as a kid. In the end, it's hard to make giant robots brawling with giant monsters a serious thing. There's always questions like "why don't you just nuke them?" "Why not put more guns on those things?"

Evangelion got away with a lot because they introduced the AT field that can only be neutralized by another AT field and to do this the evas had to be in close range and then there's the "twist" with how they manage to generate it. Then they do multiple times drop nuke like bombs on the things to little effect. You have to come up with all these rules to make it seem plausible.

Overall, I think everyone agrees it could have had a better story and characters.
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iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 03 2013 20:22 GMT
#917
On August 04 2013 04:07 Ownos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 08:41 Forumite wrote:
Great movie, awesome action, super robots

It was nothing like Evangelion, seriously

"Why not put more guns on those things?"

This part was actually fairly reasonable, the idea behind the jaegers being that you beat the Kaiju to death with blunt trauma, rather than blow them up (collateral damage) or cut them up (contamination due to blood poisoning) and then clean up manually.
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
talktativetim
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada49 Posts
August 03 2013 20:37 GMT
#918
great movie, great story, nothing wrong with this movie, i watch movies all the time so i would know. loved it!

+ Show Spoiler +
favourite quote goes here!
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 03 2013 21:41 GMT
#919
On August 04 2013 03:09 iKill wrote:
I figured you guys might enjoy this.

[image loading]


And for any Striker Eureka fans out there


+ Show Spoiler +
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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 21:48:41
August 03 2013 21:46 GMT
#920
On August 04 2013 02:25 iKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 06:25 Maxie wrote:
Well, finally got to watch it. Was good, but not enough of the Jaegers that weren't Striker or Gypsy. Also, boring main character, didn't like him at all. Scientists were the best.

+ Show Spoiler +
Striker Eureka sexiest Jaeger


Agreed. Honestly, anyone who came into this movie for story or a solid plot are stupid. You come into this like you came into 2012 or Avatar: "Let's enjoy us some goddamn giant robots fighting giant monsters."

I love how the arguments of the people following this line of reasoning can be copy/pasted to defend any Transformers movie. Did I walk into the theater expecting a Kubrick movie? No. Does it mean the plot, characters and acting had to be terrible? No.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
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