• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:48
CET 08:48
KST 16:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League68Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Do we even care about balance? Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! [Recap] 0-6 Defeat for Mong's Team BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11208 users

Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Page 30

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 196 Next
We made a thread specifically for Episode 8 now, let us head over to that one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/entertainment/521373-star-wars-episode-viii-the-last-jedi
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 02 2012 07:16 GMT
#581
On November 02 2012 16:05 Dosey wrote:
People may not like Disney, but I don't think they can possibly screw up Star Wars worse than Lucas already has. The man is a white version of Tite Kubo.

Only thing I'd be worried about is the video games (like someone stated pages before), but then again... Force Unleashed was god awful and reminiscent of a poorly made Disney game anyway... so whatever.


I'm kinda hoping that now a new jedi academy game will be released. Seriously if they could make a new jedi knight jedi academy/outcast game with todays graphics/physics/etc oh man would it be epic ^_^
When I think of something else, something will go here
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 02 2012 07:18 GMT
#582
On November 02 2012 16:16 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 16:05 Dosey wrote:
People may not like Disney, but I don't think they can possibly screw up Star Wars worse than Lucas already has. The man is a white version of Tite Kubo.

Only thing I'd be worried about is the video games (like someone stated pages before), but then again... Force Unleashed was god awful and reminiscent of a poorly made Disney game anyway... so whatever.


I'm kinda hoping that now a new jedi academy game will be released. Seriously if they could make a new jedi knight jedi academy/outcast game with todays graphics/physics/etc oh man would it be epic ^_^


Another KOTOR game, even one based on an entirely new time period, would SOOOOO be worth this series being run into the ground with another 3 episodes. Just sayin'.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 13:20:59
November 02 2012 13:20 GMT
#583
*whoops, old content*
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 03 2012 01:02 GMT
#584
That review by harry p was soooo hilarious to watch lol omg. Does he normally have random pizza roll and kidnapping plots in his review vids? lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 04:35:43
November 03 2012 04:25 GMT
#585
I remember when I was a kid, someone told me there were 9 episodes, and I have been adamant about that, since then without knowing.

Not sure, if I care anymore. I was so amazed when my father came home and told me about episode 4, and it blew my mind, when I was exposed to it. It just seems like a tired and wornout theme now. The only thing that appeals to me is the mediclorians.

If they decide to do this, I hope it will be from the Dark side pov, and with some 3 dimensional characters, and not trying to appeal to a younger audience, like episode 1-3 and 6. With Disney involved I can only be doubtful, that I can be compelled to watch it.

The whole thing could have been so great, with clashes of interests. They have just dropped the ball, imho, and it seems so corny now.

I can hope I live long enough for a remake of all episodes, that appeals to a more grown-up audience.
LiangHao
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
November 03 2012 04:31 GMT
#586
Hey guys, just realized, we can see Han Solo in the next Kingdom Hearts game now!
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 04:33:02
November 03 2012 04:31 GMT
#587
Well it can only get better after the 3 last movies. As long as George Locas stays away i'm hopeful.
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17863 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 04:46:30
November 03 2012 04:44 GMT
#588
On November 02 2012 14:34 D_K_night wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 10:11 Telcontar wrote:
Whatever they decide to do, I would like to see more of a blur between the light and the dark side. As it is, it's just too black and white. Either you're a good jedi, or you're an evil sith. I would like to see someone walk the line without really falling into either groups. It probably won't happen, but I can dream.

Tron Legacy had the most generic sci-fi plot imaginable. A bad guy that wants to rid of all imperfection and secretly builds an army to invade the world? Oh come on! It's a shame that they wasted such an interesting setting, outstanding special effects & soundtrack, with such a lame story.


It's not going to happen. It's a very important distinction, probably the biggest distinction in the series...you're either good, or you're evil. There is nothing in-between about this. *MAYBE* Han Solo could in-between, but guess what - he helps out the good guys. Lando might be in-between also, but once again - once he was betrayed, he becomes a "good guy".

It also happens to be a very crucial thing that makes it easy for a wide audience to understand, and easy for parents to explain to their kids. The good guy...human, good-looking, blue light saber...the bad guy - red light saber, ugly, etc.

Star Wars isn't about trying to make sense of right or wrong. It's about making choices which drastically swing you towards one side or the other...but the dark side always beckons.



Really? And what about Luke going over to the Dark Side, only to return to the Light later on. Or darker characters from the SW universe, like Cade Skywalker or my very favorite Quinlan Vos (making a movie about his side of the story, which spanned from before Phantom Menace to after the Revenge of the Sith would be awesome). Not everything in SW universe is completely black or white, there are many shades of grey in there too.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Sassback
Profile Joined September 2012
United States718 Posts
November 03 2012 05:12 GMT
#589
I just don't see how this is gonna be a good movie.
Every night I pray for TL to give me my SAD Boys flair, and every morning I wake up disappointed.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
November 03 2012 05:31 GMT
#590
On November 03 2012 13:44 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 14:34 D_K_night wrote:
On November 02 2012 10:11 Telcontar wrote:
Whatever they decide to do, I would like to see more of a blur between the light and the dark side. As it is, it's just too black and white. Either you're a good jedi, or you're an evil sith. I would like to see someone walk the line without really falling into either groups. It probably won't happen, but I can dream.

Tron Legacy had the most generic sci-fi plot imaginable. A bad guy that wants to rid of all imperfection and secretly builds an army to invade the world? Oh come on! It's a shame that they wasted such an interesting setting, outstanding special effects & soundtrack, with such a lame story.


It's not going to happen. It's a very important distinction, probably the biggest distinction in the series...you're either good, or you're evil. There is nothing in-between about this. *MAYBE* Han Solo could in-between, but guess what - he helps out the good guys. Lando might be in-between also, but once again - once he was betrayed, he becomes a "good guy".

It also happens to be a very crucial thing that makes it easy for a wide audience to understand, and easy for parents to explain to their kids. The good guy...human, good-looking, blue light saber...the bad guy - red light saber, ugly, etc.

Star Wars isn't about trying to make sense of right or wrong. It's about making choices which drastically swing you towards one side or the other...but the dark side always beckons.



Really? And what about Luke going over to the Dark Side, only to return to the Light later on. Or darker characters from the SW universe, like Cade Skywalker or my very favorite Quinlan Vos (making a movie about his side of the story, which spanned from before Phantom Menace to after the Revenge of the Sith would be awesome). Not everything in SW universe is completely black or white, there are many shades of grey in there too.


Ugh, please I hope they stay the hell away from Legacy. There are very few things I would take from it. To me though I (agree with Manit0u) the polarization of Star Wars is not a strength. Kreia is one of the most compelling characters of any video game, I can't imagine how amazing she'd be in a movie (not that they'd make a movie with her.) That is to say, complex rather than one-dimensional characters are more interesting. Even Darth Vader wasn't black and white.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 03 2012 05:43 GMT
#591
On November 02 2012 16:18 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 16:16 blade55555 wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:05 Dosey wrote:
People may not like Disney, but I don't think they can possibly screw up Star Wars worse than Lucas already has. The man is a white version of Tite Kubo.

Only thing I'd be worried about is the video games (like someone stated pages before), but then again... Force Unleashed was god awful and reminiscent of a poorly made Disney game anyway... so whatever.


I'm kinda hoping that now a new jedi academy game will be released. Seriously if they could make a new jedi knight jedi academy/outcast game with todays graphics/physics/etc oh man would it be epic ^_^


Another KOTOR game, even one based on an entirely new time period, would SOOOOO be worth this series being run into the ground with another 3 episodes. Just sayin'.

or a freaking jedi academy-style game!! so many possibilities, star wars universe so cool!!
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 06:00:11
November 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#592
On November 03 2012 14:43 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 16:18 Fruscainte wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:16 blade55555 wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:05 Dosey wrote:
People may not like Disney, but I don't think they can possibly screw up Star Wars worse than Lucas already has. The man is a white version of Tite Kubo.

Only thing I'd be worried about is the video games (like someone stated pages before), but then again... Force Unleashed was god awful and reminiscent of a poorly made Disney game anyway... so whatever.


I'm kinda hoping that now a new jedi academy game will be released. Seriously if they could make a new jedi knight jedi academy/outcast game with todays graphics/physics/etc oh man would it be epic ^_^


Another KOTOR game, even one based on an entirely new time period, would SOOOOO be worth this series being run into the ground with another 3 episodes. Just sayin'.

or a freaking jedi academy-style game!! so many possibilities, star wars universe so cool!!


The post you quoted had me saying that .

Dunno I am excited at hopefully a battlefront 3 and jedi academy game for PC. I just pray both are on the PC and not just consoles if they are ever made again.
When I think of something else, something will go here
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 03 2012 06:03 GMT
#593
On November 03 2012 15:00 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 14:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:18 Fruscainte wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:16 blade55555 wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:05 Dosey wrote:
People may not like Disney, but I don't think they can possibly screw up Star Wars worse than Lucas already has. The man is a white version of Tite Kubo.

Only thing I'd be worried about is the video games (like someone stated pages before), but then again... Force Unleashed was god awful and reminiscent of a poorly made Disney game anyway... so whatever.


I'm kinda hoping that now a new jedi academy game will be released. Seriously if they could make a new jedi knight jedi academy/outcast game with todays graphics/physics/etc oh man would it be epic ^_^


Another KOTOR game, even one based on an entirely new time period, would SOOOOO be worth this series being run into the ground with another 3 episodes. Just sayin'.

or a freaking jedi academy-style game!! so many possibilities, star wars universe so cool!!


The post you quoted had me saying that .

Dunno I am excited at hopefully a battlefront 3 and jedi academy game for PC. I just pray both are on the PC and not just consoles if they are ever made again.

fuck consoles!! pc gaming master race!! seriously though I agree, the new games that are made for console and then ported to PC just feel so much worse and dumbed down compared to the old games which were made for PC, jedi academy included.. I'm pretty sure there's more money to be made in consoles, unfortunately :/
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
November 03 2012 06:19 GMT
#594
I'm glad Disney bought up Star Wars. Now I can brag to future generations that I lived in a time where Star Wars was actually good, and not some cash cow franchise owned by Disney.
Oh, get a job? Just get a job? Why don't I strap on my job helmet, squeeze down into a job cannon, and fire off into job land, where jobs grow on jobbies!
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 06:31:36
November 03 2012 06:25 GMT
#595
On November 03 2012 15:03 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 15:00 blade55555 wrote:
On November 03 2012 14:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:18 Fruscainte wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:16 blade55555 wrote:
On November 02 2012 16:05 Dosey wrote:
People may not like Disney, but I don't think they can possibly screw up Star Wars worse than Lucas already has. The man is a white version of Tite Kubo.

Only thing I'd be worried about is the video games (like someone stated pages before), but then again... Force Unleashed was god awful and reminiscent of a poorly made Disney game anyway... so whatever.


I'm kinda hoping that now a new jedi academy game will be released. Seriously if they could make a new jedi knight jedi academy/outcast game with todays graphics/physics/etc oh man would it be epic ^_^


Another KOTOR game, even one based on an entirely new time period, would SOOOOO be worth this series being run into the ground with another 3 episodes. Just sayin'.

or a freaking jedi academy-style game!! so many possibilities, star wars universe so cool!!


The post you quoted had me saying that .

Dunno I am excited at hopefully a battlefront 3 and jedi academy game for PC. I just pray both are on the PC and not just consoles if they are ever made again.

fuck consoles!! pc gaming master race!! seriously though I agree, the new games that are made for console and then ported to PC just feel so much worse and dumbed down compared to the old games which were made for PC, jedi academy included.. I'm pretty sure there's more money to be made in consoles, unfortunately :/
Think you have to distinguished between two different topics, and yet, somewhat similar. Don't think the "dumbing" down is about consoles per se, but more that the developers that spend millions upon millions on games, want it to be more accessible to a broader range of gamers, that do not have the time to nerd around with multiple facets. PC games "suffer" in this regard as well. Then there is the other side, where consoles come in, and that is the streamlining of design. Since both appeal to the casual gamers, leads to some mix of saying "dumbing" down, and this has affected game design on PC, since most games today is designed with consoles in mind, and then ported, and often ending with a poor port, that doesn't built on the strengths of the PC.

Some streamlining is good, as there were some tedious things that gets filed away, but most makes it come off as too simplistic, since it has to build on the strengths of the consoles.

Maybe someday, games made for hardcore gamers will be made too, if more gamers become hardcore, and want more meat to dig into.

There is much correlation between the gaming world and movies/filmmaking, just further behind.

We have to be aware though, that we do not become dumbed down, ourselves, while we whine for more complexity, and then when we get it, we realize we do not really want it anymore.
LiangHao
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 03 2012 06:28 GMT
#596
My point is that things get streamlined too much. I like having a challenge and working around frustrating stuff. None of the big titles provide a challenge in me anymore, only a nice walk through the park.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17863 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 06:39:59
November 03 2012 06:36 GMT
#597
On November 03 2012 15:28 OutlaW- wrote:
My point is that things get streamlined too much. I like having a challenge and working around frustrating stuff. None of the big titles provide a challenge in me anymore, only a nice walk through the park.


Well, WipeOut series are pretty big. They are streamlined as much as possible and still remain one of the hardest and most competitive games ever. You need to actually practice for hundreds of hours before you'll be able to tackle this game at higher difficulty settings.

Or take a look at Virtua Fighter series. It's a fighting game with the least controls (3 buttons + directions), yet it's one of the most complex and featuring the largest number of possible moves out of any fighting game.

Flawed design will be flawed regardless of the number of features you put in there or how much you dumb it down. Streamlining isn't necessarily bad, it's the implementation of it that matters.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 06:40:21
November 03 2012 06:37 GMT
#598
I perfectly understand your point. Bear in mind that I too am a hardcore gamer, and have been for 30 years, and have never owned a console.

Some streamlining is good, too much is not. Just like too much dumbing down, is not, as it makes it like junkfood for the mind, and makes us lazy, and in gaming sense stupid, and simplistic. We can only expect that eventually, even the casual gamers sometimes, wants more on their plate, but I am doubtful that what the both of us love, will come again - even if the target is PC only, or even HC gamers like you and I. Time will tell, just like when it comes to cinema.
LiangHao
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-03 06:38:33
November 03 2012 06:37 GMT
#599
I understand. But there is a certain magic that flawed design brought to some of the old games that I've been struggling very hard to find in newer titles.

On November 03 2012 15:37 Dracolich70 wrote:
I perfectly understand your point. Bear in mind that I too am a hardcore gamer, and have been for 30 years, and have never owned a console.

Some streamlining is good, too much is not. Just like too much dumbing down, is not, as it makes it like junkfood for the mind, and makes us lazy, and in gaming sense stupid, and simplistic. We can only expect that eventually, even the casual gamers sometimes, wants more on their plate, but I am doubtful that what the both of us love, will come again.

Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17863 Posts
November 03 2012 06:44 GMT
#600
On November 03 2012 15:37 OutlaW- wrote:
I understand. But there is a certain magic that flawed design brought to some of the old games that I've been struggling very hard to find in newer titles.


Older games usually suffered from the reverse of what current games have. They had great design but flawed implementation, mostly due to technical restrictions at the time I believe, but still. They offered you a great story, writing, challenges etc. but usually also came with way more features you actually needed and that was necessary. With some streamlining they would be absolutely perfect. Newer games often have some pretty nice and simplistic UI but nothing to back it up really, poor story, dumb characters, 0 challenge or completely counter-intuitive one etc.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 196 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
08:00
Korean StarCraft League #92
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1871
Mong 215
Killer 139
Larva 66
ZergMaN 32
yabsab 9
Force[name] 1
Counter-Strike
allub141
Other Games
summit1g12891
Livibee145
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL2140
Other Games
gamesdonequick941
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2252
League of Legends
• Rush1398
• Stunt432
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
4h 12m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 3h
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.