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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
June 12 2012 17:19 GMT
#1921
On June 12 2012 21:36 Kyrillion wrote:
Show nested quote +

EDIT: WHOA! I just noticed. At 0:46 in the trailer, where Amon says "I will destroy you" (quote probably doesn't match the scene, but it is set to it) you see him sorta making the motion like clenching his fist, you can see his skin isn't pale, it's pretty dark. HMM


Er...it's a patch on his glove.


Oh lol >.< yeah you don't see finger nails.
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Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
June 13 2012 00:56 GMT
#1922
Episode 10 Preview #1:

HardCorey
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States709 Posts
June 13 2012 01:36 GMT
#1923
On June 13 2012 09:56 Sitinte wrote:
Episode 10 Preview #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGP_N5q_0k



End game Amon is definitely going to be overpowered. SO pysched.
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
June 13 2012 01:47 GMT
#1924
On June 13 2012 10:36 HardCorey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 09:56 Sitinte wrote:
Episode 10 Preview #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGP_N5q_0k



End game Amon is definitely going to be overpowered. SO pysched.

As if early game AvK wasn't imbalanced already.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
June 13 2012 02:53 GMT
#1925
On June 13 2012 10:47 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 10:36 HardCorey wrote:
On June 13 2012 09:56 Sitinte wrote:
Episode 10 Preview #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGP_N5q_0k



End game Amon is definitely going to be overpowered. SO pysched.

As if early game AvK wasn't imbalanced already.



So let me get this straight... from these two posts, AvK = ZvT.

Korra has three elements and a wide variety of strategies with these elements to harass Amon with and transition into midgame.
But with all the hax defense/dodging that Amon does (creep spread, early third, spine crawlers, 4+ queens), his late game is imba because it's infestor/brood lord. First, he holds you in place with some fancy move (Fungal), and then he uses two fingers to nullify your bending (fingers = broodlings, nom nom nom your army).

amirite?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 13 2012 03:20 GMT
#1926
On June 13 2012 11:53 Sitinte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 10:47 Emporio wrote:
On June 13 2012 10:36 HardCorey wrote:
On June 13 2012 09:56 Sitinte wrote:
Episode 10 Preview #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGP_N5q_0k



End game Amon is definitely going to be overpowered. SO pysched.

As if early game AvK wasn't imbalanced already.



So let me get this straight... from these two posts, AvK = ZvT.

Korra has three elements and a wide variety of strategies with these elements to harass Amon with and transition into midgame.
But with all the hax defense/dodging that Amon does (creep spread, early third, spine crawlers, 4+ queens), his late game is imba because it's infestor/brood lord. First, he holds you in place with some fancy move (Fungal), and then he uses two fingers to nullify your bending (fingers = broodlings, nom nom nom your army).

amirite?


It's not ZvT, it's AvK.

Amon has a weak early game with a lack of range, but he'll often do an early game rush. If Korra can push into the midgame and can obtain a positional advantage with close access to resources (water/earth) then she can press the advantage and potentially avoid the hero unit whilst sniping other important locations and units. If Amon can land a few key abilities then the game is over however, as a balanced counter to the hero unit abilities have not yet been implemented.

If Korra can get to super late game however, she'll win. I.e. I'm expecting Avatar Mode to kick in before her bending gets taken.
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AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
June 13 2012 04:40 GMT
#1927
On June 13 2012 12:20 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 11:53 Sitinte wrote:
On June 13 2012 10:47 Emporio wrote:
On June 13 2012 10:36 HardCorey wrote:
On June 13 2012 09:56 Sitinte wrote:
Episode 10 Preview #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGP_N5q_0k



End game Amon is definitely going to be overpowered. SO pysched.

As if early game AvK wasn't imbalanced already.



So let me get this straight... from these two posts, AvK = ZvT.

Korra has three elements and a wide variety of strategies with these elements to harass Amon with and transition into midgame.
But with all the hax defense/dodging that Amon does (creep spread, early third, spine crawlers, 4+ queens), his late game is imba because it's infestor/brood lord. First, he holds you in place with some fancy move (Fungal), and then he uses two fingers to nullify your bending (fingers = broodlings, nom nom nom your army).

amirite?


It's not ZvT, it's AvK.

Amon has a weak early game with a lack of range, but he'll often do an early game rush. If Korra can push into the midgame and can obtain a positional advantage with close access to resources (water/earth) then she can press the advantage and potentially avoid the hero unit whilst sniping other important locations and units. If Amon can land a few key abilities then the game is over however, as a balanced counter to the hero unit abilities have not yet been implemented.

If Korra can get to super late game however, she'll win. I.e. I'm expecting Avatar Mode to kick in before her bending gets taken.


However Amon like kerrigan will burrow into the ground and run away and making threatening remark. Leaving you to defend aganist endless waves of equalists. Good thing you have an avatar charging for when Amon comes back or when there are too many equalists to handle. Hopefully you killed their air spawns cuz trucks are much easier to handle. Just need to focus them before equalists come out!
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#1928
And it's over. Finished watching Sozin's Comet, finishing my rewatch of the series. Also finished the Avatar: The Lost Adventures comic. And parts 1 and 2 of The Promise.
And I've seen every episode of TLoK.

I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
June 13 2012 21:45 GMT
#1929
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 13 2012 22:55 GMT
#1930
On June 13 2012 09:56 Sitinte wrote:
Episode 10 Preview #1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGP_N5q_0k

It's a good thing avatars scale better than anyone into late game.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Xayvier
Profile Joined November 2010
United States387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-13 23:00:02
June 13 2012 22:59 GMT
#1931
On June 14 2012 06:45 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.


Zuko's alive too. Perhaps Zutara can still work, btw? :D
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 14 2012 02:03 GMT
#1932
On June 14 2012 06:45 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.

Yeah, every time I watch the very beggining of Korra (title sequence) I get a bit sad. This was especially true on the first episode where Tenzin sorta catches us up to speed. T_T
Then again I'm a pussy.

Question about the original series...
Toph is cited as the only one who uses her bending style (the Southern Mantis thing). Toph taught Aang, though. Shouldn't he use that style too? When I realized this I tried to specifically watch Aang's earthbending to see, but I think I only really saw one occasion where he did the 'Toph stance' outside of training (lowered stance, hands up with palms facing inwards thingy).

I dunno. Just seems weird.
Anyway everyone should read The Lost Adventures. You can get through the entire thing in like 30 minutes and a few of them are pretty good. Some of them are kinda dumb (the bee one o.O) but w/e.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 14 2012 02:14 GMT
#1933
On June 14 2012 11:03 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 06:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.

Yeah, every time I watch the very beggining of Korra (title sequence) I get a bit sad. This was especially true on the first episode where Tenzin sorta catches us up to speed. T_T
Then again I'm a pussy.

Question about the original series...
Toph is cited as the only one who uses her bending style (the Southern Mantis thing). Toph taught Aang, though. Shouldn't he use that style too? When I realized this I tried to specifically watch Aang's earthbending to see, but I think I only really saw one occasion where he did the 'Toph stance' outside of training (lowered stance, hands up with palms facing inwards thingy).

I dunno. Just seems weird.
Anyway everyone should read The Lost Adventures. You can get through the entire thing in like 30 minutes and a few of them are pretty good. Some of them are kinda dumb (the bee one o.O) but w/e.


I thought it was nice they sort of found their individual paths to bending, and perhaps it was such a struggle for Aang to continue to master earthbending that basic forms were good enough.
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
June 14 2012 02:37 GMT
#1934
that clip already told us what we know lmao
LiamTheZerg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States523 Posts
June 14 2012 03:06 GMT
#1935
On June 14 2012 06:45 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.


That makes 3 of us. Everytime i finish Yu Yu Hakusho rewatch i'm depressed as shit for a day or so
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 04:07:10
June 14 2012 04:06 GMT
#1936
On June 14 2012 11:14 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 11:03 Crazyeyes wrote:
On June 14 2012 06:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.

Yeah, every time I watch the very beggining of Korra (title sequence) I get a bit sad. This was especially true on the first episode where Tenzin sorta catches us up to speed. T_T
Then again I'm a pussy.

Question about the original series...
Toph is cited as the only one who uses her bending style (the Southern Mantis thing). Toph taught Aang, though. Shouldn't he use that style too? When I realized this I tried to specifically watch Aang's earthbending to see, but I think I only really saw one occasion where he did the 'Toph stance' outside of training (lowered stance, hands up with palms facing inwards thingy).

I dunno. Just seems weird.
Anyway everyone should read The Lost Adventures. You can get through the entire thing in like 30 minutes and a few of them are pretty good. Some of them are kinda dumb (the bee one o.O) but w/e.


I thought it was nice they sort of found their individual paths to bending, and perhaps it was such a struggle for Aang to continue to master earthbending that basic forms were good enough.

lol, but he never learned 'basic forms' like everyone else. He only learned from Toph. Even her basic forms looked different.
And he's the goddamn Avatar -- of course he mastered earthbending.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 14 2012 06:43 GMT
#1937
On June 14 2012 13:06 Crazyeyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 11:14 bittman wrote:
On June 14 2012 11:03 Crazyeyes wrote:
On June 14 2012 06:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.

Yeah, every time I watch the very beggining of Korra (title sequence) I get a bit sad. This was especially true on the first episode where Tenzin sorta catches us up to speed. T_T
Then again I'm a pussy.

Question about the original series...
Toph is cited as the only one who uses her bending style (the Southern Mantis thing). Toph taught Aang, though. Shouldn't he use that style too? When I realized this I tried to specifically watch Aang's earthbending to see, but I think I only really saw one occasion where he did the 'Toph stance' outside of training (lowered stance, hands up with palms facing inwards thingy).

I dunno. Just seems weird.
Anyway everyone should read The Lost Adventures. You can get through the entire thing in like 30 minutes and a few of them are pretty good. Some of them are kinda dumb (the bee one o.O) but w/e.


I thought it was nice they sort of found their individual paths to bending, and perhaps it was such a struggle for Aang to continue to master earthbending that basic forms were good enough.

lol, but he never learned 'basic forms' like everyone else. He only learned from Toph. Even her basic forms looked different.
And he's the goddamn Avatar -- of course he mastered earthbending.


Well Korra has 'mastered' earthbending yet does not metalbend. There's levels of mastery in all bending forms, I mean Avatar State basically nullifies that somewhat, but requirements for lightning are more than just being able to bend fire well, it's a mental thing that I don't think someone like Korra would have.

Toph's form is also highly indicative of her situation, but I get where you're coming from in that its expected that Aang would bend in the same way as Toph does, yet he does not. Toph's bending style is also minimal in movement, whilst Aang was a busy body moving around everywhere. Narrative wise it doesn't make as much sense I guess, though production wise I get it. One guy does 4 bending styles, got to keep them unique and separate.
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Belgo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 08:10:29
June 14 2012 08:06 GMT
#1938
On June 14 2012 15:43 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 13:06 Crazyeyes wrote:
On June 14 2012 11:14 bittman wrote:
On June 14 2012 11:03 Crazyeyes wrote:
On June 14 2012 06:45 SeaSwift wrote:
On June 13 2012 19:05 Crazyeyes wrote:
I hate it when things end. I feel like I lost a group of imaginary friends. =[


I had the same feeling. For some reason it is even more sad knowing that only Katara is still alive. It would have been less sad if they all just started afresh.

Yeah, every time I watch the very beggining of Korra (title sequence) I get a bit sad. This was especially true on the first episode where Tenzin sorta catches us up to speed. T_T
Then again I'm a pussy.

Question about the original series...
Toph is cited as the only one who uses her bending style (the Southern Mantis thing). Toph taught Aang, though. Shouldn't he use that style too? When I realized this I tried to specifically watch Aang's earthbending to see, but I think I only really saw one occasion where he did the 'Toph stance' outside of training (lowered stance, hands up with palms facing inwards thingy).

I dunno. Just seems weird.
Anyway everyone should read The Lost Adventures. You can get through the entire thing in like 30 minutes and a few of them are pretty good. Some of them are kinda dumb (the bee one o.O) but w/e.


I thought it was nice they sort of found their individual paths to bending, and perhaps it was such a struggle for Aang to continue to master earthbending that basic forms were good enough.

lol, but he never learned 'basic forms' like everyone else. He only learned from Toph. Even her basic forms looked different.
And he's the goddamn Avatar -- of course he mastered earthbending.


Well Korra has 'mastered' earthbending yet does not metalbend. There's levels of mastery in all bending forms, I mean Avatar State basically nullifies that somewhat, but requirements for lightning are more than just being able to bend fire well, it's a mental thing that I don't think someone like Korra would have.

Toph's form is also highly indicative of her situation, but I get where you're coming from in that its expected that Aang would bend in the same way as Toph does, yet he does not. Toph's bending style is also minimal in movement, whilst Aang was a busy body moving around everywhere. Narrative wise it doesn't make as much sense I guess, though production wise I get it. One guy does 4 bending styles, got to keep them unique and separate.



Well, Toph's form does actually make perfect sense. Normal earthbending is based on Hung Gar, a style in which one does move, albeit in a very earthbender like way, which is not the most agile but still an earthbender still has the ability to move while fighting. Now, since toph is blind, the idea of breaking your connect to the ground and losing your root, which is practically the most important aspect of any martial art; even the internal ones that water and airbending are based on, is probably the worst thing one could do. Her style is Southern Praying Mantis (and a slight touch of Chu Gar) does exactly that, keeps her rooted and able to see. (Remember she didn't have real formal lessons, so it was all badgermoles showering her what's what)

So, when toph had to teach aang, she taught him the normal form of earthbending since in the avatar world her style was that of necessity. The main ideals and concepts between Hung Gar and Mantis are very similar, as both are from southern china and both being hard external styles.

And the reason's Korra can't metal bend isn't that she is not spiritual enough, being that metalbending is from earthbending; an art which she uses more so than her own tribes. But I'd say it has to do with the fact that she can barley airbend probably takes precedent over the secondary styles.
12 gateways being thrown down, which is standard transition after the two observatory opening
Bombs Aregreat
Profile Joined June 2012
5 Posts
June 14 2012 20:58 GMT
#1939
I've stopped enjoying LOK now. Basically the enemies have become far too one-dimensional. Sure, Amon's motives are arguably still mysterious. But the bad guys are becoming too cliche. It's your run of the mill good versus evil plot again where in order to make the bad guys evil enough their intelligence is lowered to the point where they decide it's going to be a good idea to round up a large group of people and lock them away - Nazi Germany, hurr durr. At least in TLA you could feel that it was more of a historical story when cultures were still developing, and you can kind of understand a Lord wanting to conquer other nations and rule over them as colonies, but in LOK society is supposed to be progressive yet there are a significant number of people (in power) who basically share Anders Breivik's worldview and think eliminating the part of society they disagree with is the solution to society's problems. In fact, it all begins right in episode one where Korra is arrested for destruction of property and Bei Fong doesn't care that she was only trying to protect the storeowners from the gangs. Fuck woman, what do you think your mother would say about your strict way of applying the law? I was willing to overlook it in the earlier episodes but then these incidents just became all too common for me to be able to enjoy the series anymore.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 14 2012 21:19 GMT
#1940
On June 15 2012 05:58 Bombs Aregreat wrote:
I've stopped enjoying LOK now. Basically the enemies have become far too one-dimensional. Sure, Amon's motives are arguably still mysterious. But the bad guys are becoming too cliche. It's your run of the mill good versus evil plot again where in order to make the bad guys evil enough their intelligence is lowered to the point where they decide it's going to be a good idea to round up a large group of people and lock them away - Nazi Germany, hurr durr. At least in TLA you could feel that it was more of a historical story when cultures were still developing, and you can kind of understand a Lord wanting to conquer other nations and rule over them as colonies, but in LOK society is supposed to be progressive yet there are a significant number of people (in power) who basically share Anders Breivik's worldview and think eliminating the part of society they disagree with is the solution to society's problems. In fact, it all begins right in episode one where Korra is arrested for destruction of property and Bei Fong doesn't care that she was only trying to protect the storeowners from the gangs. Fuck woman, what do you think your mother would say about your strict way of applying the law? I was willing to overlook it in the earlier episodes but then these incidents just became all too common for me to be able to enjoy the series anymore.


I fail to see how any of the TLA villains are not one dimensional. In fact, TLA makes a whole nation of people seem evil until like 10 episodes from the end of the series. If anything I would say the main conflict in TLA is much more one dimensional than the conflict of LOK. At least in LOK there is some truth to what Amon preaches, whereas in TLA the fire lord is literally just an evil emperor who wants to take over the world. Its also extremely unfair to compare 3 seasons worth of plot development to 10 episodes. Rewatch the first 10 episodes of TLA and you will see that everything is very cliche.
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