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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
On June 16 2012 08:24 Duravi wrote: The thing that LOK is missing is compared to TLA, at least for me, is something along the lines of what the Zuko/Iroh story line was. A "bad" character who struggles with their choices. I am sympathetic to Amon's cause, but not really the character himself, he hasnt had anywhere close to the amount of character development that Zuko did in TLA, even in just season one. Overall I wish they had more episodes to work with, if you are going to tell a character driven story like TLA was, I think you need at least 2-3 15+ episode seasons (for a 20 something minute show). This is true, that aspect is not really there yet, but give it some time as you stated. There is a lot of potential like with Tarrlok and Tahno. Not to mention, maybe even Amon, we will have to see. It is a bit unfair though to compare the two shows on a storyline/character level until LoK has had time to reveal itself as TLA did. I really can't wait to see where they go with everything though. There is still a ton of potential there thematically. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On June 16 2012 00:36 BlackPaladin wrote: In literature it's just a fancy term of saying a character has little depth. Ironically, there are tons of stories like that. Heck, you could argue emperor palpatine is one-dimensional, but that didn't stop star wars from being so popular. Sometimes such characters work well when worked into the rest of the story. You don't need everyone to have some cliche reason as to why they do things. ;o Emperor Palpatine is a great character to bring up in reference to the original series. Star Wars and TLA have the same basic narrative structure of a Monomyth, in which the Hero has to succeed, against all odds, against an unknown and ultra powerful force. It's a story based entirely on the growth of the hero and the mystery of the true villain. It even had a villain face turn, although Zuko's turn was much earlier compared to Vader's. The unseen evil force is a very prevalent and important story concept and there's nothing wrong with it -- that's why you bring in other villains with more depth of character to keep the story going and to have the protagonist overcome in the form of Azula and Zuko. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On June 16 2012 08:53 WolfintheSheep wrote: Thing about Amon is, he's not supposed to be a sympathetic character. He's supposed to be the extremist face of a sympathetic cause. This is fine, but then where is the sympathetic anti-bender character? | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On June 16 2012 09:15 Duravi wrote: This is fine, but then where is the sympathetic anti-bender character? The Sato family will probably revolve around this role in the future. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On June 16 2012 09:15 Duravi wrote: This is fine, but then where is the sympathetic anti-bender character? That's the thing; there's nothing sympathetic about "anti-bending". And a character that spends every episode ranting about how non-benders have it tough isn't very sympathetic either. You don't need an Amon that's good. You need characters like Sokka, Suki and Asami who passively display the merits of non-benders. EDIT: That is to say, LoK has created a sympathetic feeling for non-benders without having a character jam it down your throat. Every time you look at the council meetings, there's always an underlying point that non-benders are completely unrepresented. You can see that the entire police force is comprised of benders. Even many of the minor-labour jobs rely on benders to do the bulk of the work. And none of those points had to be stated outright or brought to your attention on every occasion. Just like its predecessor, LoK creates a lot of its story through world building. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On June 16 2012 09:25 WolfintheSheep wrote: That's the thing; there's nothing sympathetic about "anti-bending". And a character that spends every episode ranting about how non-benders have it tough isn't very sympathetic either. You don't need an Amon that's good. You need characters like Sokka, Suki and Asami who passively display the merits of non-benders. I disagree, it doesn't have to be an anti-bender, but an antagonist that the viewer can sympathize with would definitely help flesh out the story. What you are suggesting is just more protagonists, and we already have plenty of those. Black and white can work in a two hour film, but in a tv series I prefer some gray. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On June 16 2012 09:31 Duravi wrote: I disagree, it doesn't have to be an anti-bender, but an antagonist that the viewer can sympathize with would definitely help flesh out the story. What you are suggesting is just more protagonists, and we already have plenty of those. Black and white can work in a two hour film, but in a tv series I prefer some gray. Edited my previous post, but just to sum up that point: LoK creates the sympathetic side purely by displaying the world. No one agrees with the stuff Amon says or does, but everyone can see, without being told, that there are legitimate concerns about non-bender equality. | ||
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On June 16 2012 09:35 WolfintheSheep wrote: Edited my previous post, but just to sum up that point: LoK creates the sympathetic side purely by displaying the world. No one agrees with the stuff Amon says or does, but everyone can see, without being told, that there are legitimate concerns about non-bender equality. I definitely agree with what you are saying, the idea is there. My problem is more that our attachment to the plight of the non-benders would be stronger if we could identify to one of them in the anti-bender movement, and their reasons for joining. mako's girlfriend could have served this purpose, but she chose to instead stick with the avatar gang. I found that kind of disappointing in light of how poignant the episode "The Crossroads of Destiny" was in TLA, having a conflicted character make the "wrong" choice can be a huge boon to the story. | ||
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0kz
Italy1118 Posts
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Darkened
Bulgaria105 Posts
On June 16 2012 19:34 0kz wrote: when is the new episode coming out? Today, about four hours and fifteen minutes from this post. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
edit: NVM | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
What do u guys think, the moment he gave was 10:27 watch on from that final ep of book 2 earth | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On June 16 2012 20:11 Shock710 wrote: My friend just sent me a txt, when he was watching through avatar again book2 (earth) in the final ep, when the Dailee capture the earth generals, with chains/metal and the way the chains/grapple on to them is very werid....like some times they curve in the air and he asked me if it was metal bending, i wasnt too sure cause of the Toph "first metal bender" thing, if the dailee could do that then toph wasnt really the first. What do u guys think, the moment he gave was 10:27 watch on from that final ep of book 2 earth Pretty sure it's implied that the chains are partially made of earth. + Show Spoiler [SPECULATION FOR TODAY'S EP] + For anyone that's seen the 1min preview, I think Air Temple Island will be under attack with Lin losing her bending. I also think that Korra will somehow be able to restore people's bending in the finale, once she finally gets in touch with her spiritual side. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Handicap
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