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On June 11 2012 12:08 XXhkXX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 12:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On June 11 2012 11:53 MajuGarzett wrote:
Has it ever been shown how cultures other than the airbenders searched for the avatar? If they always just went around investigating claims I don't see how they could have kept it a secret until the avatar was 16. Unless it was only the airbenders who kept it a secret. Well I think maybe they don't teach them the other elements or something, so he wouldn't find out? They all have relics which previous avatars played with. They know when an avatar is born in each kingdom so it isnt terribly hard. They prolly had massive searches. This is a reference to how they find the incarnations of the Dalai Lama in real life btw in Buddhism. Anyways while the avatar may not be told that they're the avatar at 16 their actual training where they master the elements and more importantly their spiritual side could take place after 16. That doesnt mean that they dont know their the avatar in all circumstances, just that its not "official" yet
Yeah, that makes sense. I originally thought that the toy selection was exclusive to the air temples and that other nations would have other methods.
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On June 11 2012 11:52 XXhkXX wrote:
LOL I just found the craziest Amon theory...Amon isnt half man half machine, a cyborg, HE'S HALF MAN HALF CABBAGE. lol cabbage man maybe still alive after 75 years xD
So basically... Amon is the long lost cousin of Popeye... it explains a lot.
On June 11 2012 12:08 XXhkXX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 12:03 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On June 11 2012 11:53 MajuGarzett wrote:
Has it ever been shown how cultures other than the airbenders searched for the avatar? If they always just went around investigating claims I don't see how they could have kept it a secret until the avatar was 16. Unless it was only the airbenders who kept it a secret. Well I think maybe they don't teach them the other elements or something, so he wouldn't find out? They all have relics which previous avatars played with. They know when an avatar is born in each kingdom so it isnt terribly hard. They prolly had massive searches. This is a reference to how they find the incarnations of the Dalai Lama in real life btw in Buddhism. Anyways while the avatar may not be told that they're the avatar at 16 their actual training where they master the elements and more importantly their spiritual side could take place after 16. That doesnt mean that they dont know their the avatar in all circumstances, just that its not "official" yet
The relic method is only used by the Air Nomads, though.
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Well first of all, they'd narrow it down to the next country in the cycle. Then they'd narrow it down even further to babies who were born that same day. (I'd assume they wouldn't be able to know the exact time but could probably figure out the day)
One of the many ways they figure it out is through similarities. Each avatar has ghost memories of the past ones as well. One of the ways the airbenders did it was having Aang pick some toys when he was a boy, and he happened to pick toys that belonged to past avatars, which could work for other nations too. They basically did tests like this to see if the avatar memory in their subconscious caused them to make certain decisions. I'm not exactly sure how this would be organized. The monks did it in the Air Nation but I'm not sure who would be in charge of this stuff in other nations. Perhaps White Lotus dudes undercover?
This of course is assuming there was no huge obvious way to find out, such as Korra being able to bend three elements as a child.
EDIT: Got ninja'd like a mad man, but I'm sticking with my post.
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On June 11 2012 12:18 Hulavuta wrote:
Well first of all, they'd narrow it down to the next country in the cycle. Then they'd narrow it down even further to babies who were born that same day. (I'd assume they wouldn't be able to know the exact time but could probably figure out the day)
One of the many ways they figure it out is through similarities. Each avatar has ghost memories of the past ones as well. One of the ways the airbenders did it was having Aang pick some toys when he was a boy, and he happened to pick toys that belonged to past avatars, which could work for other nations too. They basically did tests like this to see if the avatar memory in their subconscious caused them to make certain decisions. I'm not exactly sure how this would be organized. The monks did it in the Air Nation but I'm not sure who would be in charge of this stuff in other nations. Perhaps White Lotus dudes undercover?
This of course is assuming there was no huge obvious way to find out, such as Korra being able to bend three elements as a child.
EDIT: Got ninja'd like a mad man, but I'm sticking with my post.
The fire sages took care of avatar business in the fire nation, not sure how they went about figuring out who it was though.
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Kyoshi being 230: It was a complete accident. The writers fukced up the dates, fans noticed. The best fix was 'oh well I guess she lived to be 230 lol'
and so the oldest Avatar in history was created.
Seriously, that's what happened, no sarcasm/kidding here. They fucked up and just went with it.
Korra was revealed to be the Avatar earlier becuase Aang decided to change the whole 'wait until 16' shit and had the White Lotus search earlier. Seeing as how Korra's such a boss and was able to bend 3 elements at the age of fucking three, I guess ultimately that decision didn't matter.
Also I'm suprised at how much people are having discussions on all the 'shipping.' I knew a huge part of the fanbase cared but... I don't know. Didn't expect it on TL.
I'm mostly indifferent; I just don' tlike Mako as a character.
As for how they found the Avatar... I thought the method of the four toys was used by everyone? Where are you guys getting that it was used by the Air Nomads only? It's a reference to the Dalai Lama. Or however that's spelled.
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On June 11 2012 13:02 Crazyeyes wrote:
Kyoshi being 230: It was a complete accident. The writers fukced up the dates, fans noticed. The best fix was 'oh well I guess she lived to be 230 lol'
and so the oldest Avatar in history was created.
Seriously, that's what happened, no sarcasm/kidding here. They fucked up and just went with it.
Korra was revealed to be the Avatar earlier becuase Aang decided to change the whole 'wait until 16' shit and had the White Lotus search earlier. Seeing as how Korra's such a boss and was able to bend 3 elements at the age of fucking three, I guess ultimately that decision didn't matter.
Also I'm suprised at how much people are having discussions on all the 'shipping.' I knew a huge part of the fanbase cared but... I don't know. Didn't expect it on TL.
I'm mostly indifferent; I just don' tlike Mako as a character.
As for how they found the Avatar... I thought the method of the four toys was used by everyone? Where are you guys getting that it was used by the Air Nomads only? It's a reference to the Dalai Lama. Or however that's spelled.
I had assumed that different cultures might have different methods of discerning the avatar. The toy choosing thing seemed very air nomad like due to the allusions to Buddhism but I felt that the fire nation might have some grander ritual as that would suit their culture.
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On June 11 2012 13:02 Crazyeyes wrote:
Kyoshi being 230: It was a complete accident. The writers fukced up the dates, fans noticed. The best fix was 'oh well I guess she lived to be 230 lol'
and so the oldest Avatar in history was created.
Seriously, that's what happened, no sarcasm/kidding here. They fucked up and just went with it.
Korra was revealed to be the Avatar earlier becuase Aang decided to change the whole 'wait until 16' shit and had the White Lotus search earlier. Seeing as how Korra's such a boss and was able to bend 3 elements at the age of fucking three, I guess ultimately that decision didn't matter.
Also I'm suprised at how much people are having discussions on all the 'shipping.' I knew a huge part of the fanbase cared but... I don't know. Didn't expect it on TL.
I'm mostly indifferent; I just don' tlike Mako as a character.
As for how they found the Avatar... I thought the method of the four toys was used by everyone? Where are you guys getting that it was used by the Air Nomads only? It's a reference to the Dalai Lama. Or however that's spelled.
Avatar Wiki. Type in 'Avatar' into the search bar and it's like... the first few paragraphs where it states that the relics are for Air Nomads.
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Ah. I'll take your word for it.
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OMG such a good show. Been watching it online. Can someone tell me what the last episode was and when the next one will be on? Thanks!
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On June 11 2012 13:52 thegiantnome wrote:
OMG such a good show. Been watching it online. Can someone tell me what the last episode was and when the next one will be on? Thanks!
Last episode was number 09, and the next will be aired on friday or saturday(idk the exact date).
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I think I may be the only one in this thread that actually supports Mako and Korra... Tbh I don't really care about shipping anyone as long as it doesn't mess up the show, but I support them just because that's what the show meant to happen and I have faith that the writers will work it out since their relationship seems kinda complicated right now.
Maybe it's just because I was never too crazy on Bolin either, so whichever way the writers wrote it would've been ok with me. I think a lot of the hate on Mako is blind though, some people have legit reasons, but to call Bolin a far more dimensional character doesn't make sense either. One is funny and immature, the other one is serious and mature, both characters aren't that complex, people here like Bolin simply because he's funnier. I know some people who hate Bolin for the reason that he's an immature goofball, it's just a preference thing.
I see so many comments about why the heck Korra would like Mako over Bolin, and the simple explanation is just that the show was written that way. Korra had a fun time hanging out with Bolin ONCE, that doesn't mean they're a match made in heaven. The actual screen time and interaction time with Korra and Mako is much more which is why she likes him...
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On June 11 2012 13:02 Crazyeyes wrote:
Kyoshi being 230: It was a complete accident. The writers fukced up the dates, fans noticed. The best fix was 'oh well I guess she lived to be 230 lol'
and so the oldest Avatar in history was created.
Seriously, that's what happened, no sarcasm/kidding here. They fucked up and just went with it.
Korra was revealed to be the Avatar earlier becuase Aang decided to change the whole 'wait until 16' shit and had the White Lotus search earlier. Seeing as how Korra's such a boss and was able to bend 3 elements at the age of fucking three, I guess ultimately that decision didn't matter.
Also I'm suprised at how much people are having discussions on all the 'shipping.' I knew a huge part of the fanbase cared but... I don't know. Didn't expect it on TL.
I'm mostly indifferent; I just don' tlike Mako as a character.
As for how they found the Avatar... I thought the method of the four toys was used by everyone? Where are you guys getting that it was used by the Air Nomads only? It's a reference to the Dalai Lama. Or however that's spelled.
Haha really? Nice. By fuck up, do you mean like, as they were writing, they realized that they had this gap of years to fill, and they couldn't just put in another cycle of avatars because it would mean each one is like 57.3 years old when they die?
Too be honest knowing that an avatar lived to 230 sounds really cool. But even Bumi's age was impressive. 230 is a bit too much, taking away from the "interesting" factor. Just sharing my thoughts, haha. I mean, when she's that old, does she just hope that there won't be any big trouble she has to deal with, or maybe even if she's 200 years old her avatar state would still be really strong, or maybe she can bend without movements when she's too old to fight physically?
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On June 11 2012 12:17 Sitinte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 11:52 XXhkXX wrote:
LOL I just found the craziest Amon theory...Amon isnt half man half machine, a cyborg, HE'S HALF MAN HALF CABBAGE. lol cabbage man maybe still alive after 75 years xD So basically... Amon is the long lost cousin of Popeye... it explains a lot.
I believe thats spinach bro
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On June 11 2012 14:20 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 13:02 Crazyeyes wrote:
Kyoshi being 230: It was a complete accident. The writers fukced up the dates, fans noticed. The best fix was 'oh well I guess she lived to be 230 lol'
and so the oldest Avatar in history was created.
Seriously, that's what happened, no sarcasm/kidding here. They fucked up and just went with it.
Korra was revealed to be the Avatar earlier becuase Aang decided to change the whole 'wait until 16' shit and had the White Lotus search earlier. Seeing as how Korra's such a boss and was able to bend 3 elements at the age of fucking three, I guess ultimately that decision didn't matter.
Also I'm suprised at how much people are having discussions on all the 'shipping.' I knew a huge part of the fanbase cared but... I don't know. Didn't expect it on TL.
I'm mostly indifferent; I just don' tlike Mako as a character.
As for how they found the Avatar... I thought the method of the four toys was used by everyone? Where are you guys getting that it was used by the Air Nomads only? It's a reference to the Dalai Lama. Or however that's spelled. Haha really? Nice. By fuck up, do you mean like, as they were writing, they realized that they had this gap of years to fill, and they couldn't just put in another cycle of avatars because it would mean each one is like 57.3 years old when they die? Too be honest knowing that an avatar lived to 230 sounds really cool. But even Bumi's age was impressive. 230 is a bit too much, taking away from the "interesting" factor. Just sharing my thoughts, haha. I mean, when she's that old, does she just hope that there won't be any big trouble she has to deal with, or maybe even if she's 200 years old her avatar state would still be really strong, or maybe she can bend without movements when she's too old to fight physically?
I'm pretty sure the writers never noticed themselves, and it was actually fans who pointed it out.
I imagine some nerd asked during a Q&A why she lived to be 230 and they're just like 'wiat what? That can't be right.' 'No seriously I've double checked adn everything' *produces evidence* 'Oh... she uh... yeah. We'll get back to you on that.'
They have not got back to him on that.
As for the age I'm sure she was fine. If Bumi was as agile as he was at 112 I dont see what another 100 years would change.
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I really enjoyed episode 9, but i felt like some things were rushed just to lead up to the season finale sooner.
+ Show Spoiler +it seemed like they had built Tarrlok up to be a pretty significant secondary villain, complete with flashback backstory power, only to effectively off him by the next episode. Understandably it does help to add a level of severity to Amon, showing that even blood bending hardly fazes him. also, it seemed like they beat it over my head that Mako and Korra will be together by next season. Bolin + Asami? one can hope
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On June 11 2012 14:20 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 13:02 Crazyeyes wrote:
Kyoshi being 230: It was a complete accident. The writers fukced up the dates, fans noticed. The best fix was 'oh well I guess she lived to be 230 lol'
and so the oldest Avatar in history was created.
Seriously, that's what happened, no sarcasm/kidding here. They fucked up and just went with it.
Korra was revealed to be the Avatar earlier becuase Aang decided to change the whole 'wait until 16' shit and had the White Lotus search earlier. Seeing as how Korra's such a boss and was able to bend 3 elements at the age of fucking three, I guess ultimately that decision didn't matter.
Also I'm suprised at how much people are having discussions on all the 'shipping.' I knew a huge part of the fanbase cared but... I don't know. Didn't expect it on TL.
I'm mostly indifferent; I just don' tlike Mako as a character.
As for how they found the Avatar... I thought the method of the four toys was used by everyone? Where are you guys getting that it was used by the Air Nomads only? It's a reference to the Dalai Lama. Or however that's spelled. Haha really? Nice. By fuck up, do you mean like, as they were writing, they realized that they had this gap of years to fill, and they couldn't just put in another cycle of avatars because it would mean each one is like 57.3 years old when they die? Too be honest knowing that an avatar lived to 230 sounds really cool. But even Bumi's age was impressive. 230 is a bit too much, taking away from the "interesting" factor. Just sharing my thoughts, haha. I mean, when she's that old, does she just hope that there won't be any big trouble she has to deal with, or maybe even if she's 200 years old her avatar state would still be really strong, or maybe she can bend without movements when she's too old to fight physically?
You can't really judge someone by age when you dont have full understanding of the universe they are in(we really aren't told much about the humans in that universe). If she lasted that long she must have been strong the entire time. Does anyone know how the avatar dies? Maybe they just die at will lol.
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On June 11 2012 14:39 Crazyeyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 14:20 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On June 11 2012 13:02 Crazyeyes wrote:
Kyoshi being 230: It was a complete accident. The writers fukced up the dates, fans noticed. The best fix was 'oh well I guess she lived to be 230 lol'
and so the oldest Avatar in history was created.
Seriously, that's what happened, no sarcasm/kidding here. They fucked up and just went with it.
Korra was revealed to be the Avatar earlier becuase Aang decided to change the whole 'wait until 16' shit and had the White Lotus search earlier. Seeing as how Korra's such a boss and was able to bend 3 elements at the age of fucking three, I guess ultimately that decision didn't matter.
Also I'm suprised at how much people are having discussions on all the 'shipping.' I knew a huge part of the fanbase cared but... I don't know. Didn't expect it on TL.
I'm mostly indifferent; I just don' tlike Mako as a character.
As for how they found the Avatar... I thought the method of the four toys was used by everyone? Where are you guys getting that it was used by the Air Nomads only? It's a reference to the Dalai Lama. Or however that's spelled. Haha really? Nice. By fuck up, do you mean like, as they were writing, they realized that they had this gap of years to fill, and they couldn't just put in another cycle of avatars because it would mean each one is like 57.3 years old when they die? Too be honest knowing that an avatar lived to 230 sounds really cool. But even Bumi's age was impressive. 230 is a bit too much, taking away from the "interesting" factor. Just sharing my thoughts, haha. I mean, when she's that old, does she just hope that there won't be any big trouble she has to deal with, or maybe even if she's 200 years old her avatar state would still be really strong, or maybe she can bend without movements when she's too old to fight physically? I'm pretty sure the writers never noticed themselves, and it was actually fans who pointed it out. I imagine some nerd asked during a Q&A why she lived to be 230 and they're just like 'wiat what? That can't be right.' 'No seriously I've double checked adn everything' *produces evidence* 'Oh... she uh... yeah. We'll get back to you on that.' They have not got back to him on that. As for the age I'm sure she was fine. If Bumi was as agile as he was at 112 I dont see what another 100 years would change.
Where was the original mistake made? I was reading through various Avatar wiki pages, but saw no mention of Kyoshi's age initially being an error.
On a related note, I noticed that while each Avatar wiki page has a reference list at the bottom, there were several sections of text that weren't referenced. On the History of the World of Avatar page, in the "100 ASC - Year of the Monkey" section there are 17 consecutive non-referenced sentenced bounded by sentences referencing an episode of TLA and The Promise, Part 1. The contents of the non-referenced sentences are obviously taken from the last few episodes of TLA, but the sentences aren't marked with reference numbers and the referenced TLA episodes aren't on the reference list at the bottom of the page. I know the non-referenced information is be correct, but the absence of complete referencing disappoints me. Of greater concern to me is the "Unknown date before 312 BSC" section (also on the History of the World of Avatar page), which consists of 19 sentences, contains only 2 references, which clearly only apply to about 3-6 sentences. Several of the non-referenced sentences contain information unfamiliar to me, so they mean nothing to me. Maybe the information is correct, but I haven't seen it anywhere but on a wiki that gives me no references to check the information. While I greatly appreciate the effort all wiki contributors put forth, it's meaningless if they don't reference their information. I hope this page is the only one with missing references.
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On June 11 2012 08:06 Sitinte wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:10 Zambrah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Is anyone else disappointed that Mako is going to be Korra's love interest?
Anyone else really hope that Bolin would be with Korra?
I just think its so boring and obvious to have Typical Male Protagonist Guy get with the Heroine. Not to mention that Korra's date with Bolin clearly went well, and Mako is just a bland turd. + Show Spoiler +I can identify with Bolin's pain, but that date that they had did nothing to convince Korra that Bolin would be better than his brother. Sure, they had a good time and all, but what I saw was stuff would happen with male friends or female friends I don't have an interest in. And Korra was the one who had to step in to cover her and Bolin's ass when Tahno decided to harass them. You're not going to be scoring any points if you act beta in front of a problem and the girl takes charge.
Now that I think about it, I don't care for Makorra either. It's like you said, boring and obvious.
+ Show Spoiler +You guys common, you know who Korra's going to end up with at the very end of season two. Its gonna be Tahno. Korra is already very attracted to him. I mean why else would she refer to him as "pretty boy" so much?.
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On June 11 2012 15:43 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 08:06 Sitinte wrote:On June 11 2012 07:10 Zambrah wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Is anyone else disappointed that Mako is going to be Korra's love interest?
Anyone else really hope that Bolin would be with Korra?
I just think its so boring and obvious to have Typical Male Protagonist Guy get with the Heroine. Not to mention that Korra's date with Bolin clearly went well, and Mako is just a bland turd. + Show Spoiler +I can identify with Bolin's pain, but that date that they had did nothing to convince Korra that Bolin would be better than his brother. Sure, they had a good time and all, but what I saw was stuff would happen with male friends or female friends I don't have an interest in. And Korra was the one who had to step in to cover her and Bolin's ass when Tahno decided to harass them. You're not going to be scoring any points if you act beta in front of a problem and the girl takes charge.
Now that I think about it, I don't care for Makorra either. It's like you said, boring and obvious. + Show Spoiler +You guys common, you know who Korra's going to end up with at the very end of season two. Its gonna be Tahno. Korra is already very attracted to him. I mean why else would she refer to him as "pretty boy" so much?.
Agreed. The writer's wouldn't get rid of such a developed character anyways (not to mention a good character design coupled with a sexy voice). He'll be back.
Btw idk if this was shared here before or not, but this is pretty awesome:
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