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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 00:13:30
June 23 2012 23:49 GMT
#2621
Damn good episode right up until the point where Aang showed up and destroyed the entire show in a single moment. "Hey guys, nothing what happened in the entire season matters!" I mean, it was obvious Korra would get her bending back somehow someway, but not like this. I feel spat on by this terribly unimaginative "and they all lived long and happy together" ending... What's even going to happen in the second season? What could possibly go wrong now that Korra can go super saiyan? They set themselves up for an amazing second season, Korra going on an epic journey to get her bending back but no!

Other than the obvious I had two other problems with this episode. Amon's exit was... weird? And what's up with the United Nations? Ten warships, a handful of benders and that's it? The might of all the nations combined?

Overall, the season was enjoyable. Ten more episodes with some filler would've given some breathing room though, the breakneck pace didn't do the show any good and is, I suspect, guilty for the ending we got.
Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
June 23 2012 23:57 GMT
#2622
Altright, how about threatening to reveal your father's past to everyone ? Surely the whole point of undergoing a surgery and settling in a far off place was to have everyone forget him.
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 23 2012 23:58 GMT
#2623
Reading everyone's opinions currently, will update with mine in a bit. I find it funny how everybody now complains about how the season lacked fillers, and always complained about episodes they thought were filler when they happened. (five)
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Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 00:22:35
June 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#2624
He didn't destroy everything. Aang gave Korra the knowledge she needed to spirit bend. Presumably, if you can take someone's bending away with it, you can also give it back. Korra couldn't lose her bending because well, she's the Avatar.

You guys who keep asking for more episodes realize we're getting a second season right? And Mike and Bryan have said they have material ready to do a third one, if they get the go-ahead from Nickelodeon.

I suspect that next season, Amon's lieutenant will be the main "villain". He still believes in the Equalist ideology, he still likely has thousands of followers, and he's more pissed off than ever. I bet that next season will resolve the core societal issue underlying the whole revolution. That's one thing I have to give them credit for. This season did great at dealing with serious issues, which didn't really happen too much in TLA.

On June 24 2012 08:49 Thorakh wrote:
Other than the obvious I had two other problems with this episode. Amon's exit was... weird? And what's up with the United Nations? Ten warships, a handful of benders and that's it? The might of all the nations combined?

Remember Bumi was leading another fleet. I suspect they just sent everything they had as fast as possible, without stopping to group up. What showed up with Iroh was just his fleet, or maybe even just a fraction of it.
Who called in the fleet?
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 24 2012 00:00 GMT
#2625
hey, what do you know - the Tarlok = Amon theory wasn't too far off
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 24 2012 00:11 GMT
#2626
To everybody complaining about how easily Korra picked up bending, I don't think it was "easily" unless you just look at it in the terms of an episode/season.

Aang had to find his elemental teachers, and when he did, they had no idea how to teach him. Sure, they were excellent benders, but none of them have taught the Avatar (or anyone) how to bend. If anything, the concept of teaching the avatar could have been even more daunting.

Korra on the other hand was discovered around the age of 5 or so in an extremely different society/time. She was trained (from five years old!) to become the next avatar, because Aang probably would have wanted to ensure that the avatar was vulnerable (via being weak/not ready) for the least amount of time. So Korra has the next 9-12 years (pegging her around 14-17) to master three elements. How does this seem so illogical?

While I don't get how Amon's bending unlocks airbending, it does make sense that she would understand it. She had already mastered different techniques of airbending, so once she could, she knows the principles of it.

To Korra restoring bending: yes, it might seem like an "undo" button, but think about it. The avatar is there to keep the peace and balance. It's unnatural for a bloodbender to have the right to take away all of the bending of anyone they choose. Therefore, it would make sense for Korra to fix it, as her job is to balance things. Also: Why would a random powerful bloodbender be capable of taking bending away, and yet the AVATAR could not bring it back? From an abilities standpoint, it doesn't make much sense if that were true.

Tarlok and Amon being related was really interesting. It definitely helped the story I think, but seemed to come out of nowhere (I think that was intentional).

As far as Mako and Korra, meh. I'll write that off to the series being a children's series and the only truly corny thing. It was an obvious plot detail that was going to happen, and is pretty much exactly what happened to Aang and Katara. (Can't date/be together during danger, as soon as everything is OK, they kiss). I think Korra should have shown/talked to Asami, it was obvious she was at least trying to respect her until the end. Mako definitely should have had some better closure with her, but at least they tried.

Overall, I liked the series, and I don't think there were many issues with it that can't be explained by A) The constraints of a child series (and very few of us are probably 10-14) and B) Shortness of the episodes. Keep in mind it was intentionally short because it was supposed to be a mini-series. They could easily make it longer next time.
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Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
June 24 2012 00:14 GMT
#2627
I gotta say, the series felt super rushed. What went on in these 12 episodes shouldve spanned about 26. Also, the ending seemed a bit generic. It's a everyone-feels-happy (except Asami probably) sort of thing where the bad guys die and the good guys get their powers back. Not a fan of super happy endings. Wish it was more bittersweet...like (Avatar 1 spoilers)

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The end of Season 2 of the original Avatar
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Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
June 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#2628
On June 24 2012 09:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
I gotta say, the series felt super rushed. What went on in these 12 episodes shouldve spanned about 26. Also, the ending seemed a bit generic. It's a everyone-feels-happy (except Asami probably) sort of thing where the bad guys die and the good guys get their powers back. Not a fan of super happy endings. Wish it was more bittersweet...like (Avatar 1 spoilers)

+ Show Spoiler +
The end of Season 2 of the original Avatar

But the bad guys won. The Equalists are the good guys. The underlying cultural strife is all still there, except now the Equalists have a leader without a problematic past, the Lieutenant with the stun batons. It isn't really a happy ending, its more of a "Nothing's-really-changed" ending.
Who called in the fleet?
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
June 24 2012 00:30 GMT
#2629
On June 24 2012 09:28 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 09:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
I gotta say, the series felt super rushed. What went on in these 12 episodes shouldve spanned about 26. Also, the ending seemed a bit generic. It's a everyone-feels-happy (except Asami probably) sort of thing where the bad guys die and the good guys get their powers back. Not a fan of super happy endings. Wish it was more bittersweet...like (Avatar 1 spoilers)

+ Show Spoiler +
The end of Season 2 of the original Avatar

But the bad guys won. The Equalists are the good guys. The underlying cultural strife is all still there, except now the Equalists have a leader without a problematic past, the Lieutenant with the stun batons. It isn't really a happy ending, its more of a "Nothing's-really-changed" ending.


I tought it was strongly hinted that Amon kinda... killed him. They clearlily can't show somebody being killed by blood bending, but he knew his secret. There's no reason for Amon to have let him live.

But it's still a kid's show, so who knows.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 24 2012 00:46 GMT
#2630
personally i am quite satisfied with the finale, i understand that everyone thinks it was rushed due to only having 12 episodes. honestly though i think they did a great job trying to cover as many of the important things that should have been covered given that time frame as possible.
TheTomato
Profile Joined August 2010
United States40 Posts
June 24 2012 00:58 GMT
#2631
On June 24 2012 09:11 Alryk wrote:

While I don't get how Amon's bending unlocks airbending, it does make sense that she would understand it. She had already mastered different techniques of airbending, so once she could, she knows the principles of it.




I think its more when Korra could only bend 3 elements when Amon took away her bending, so those three were severed. It was after that she was able to connect to her Airbending, maybe because of the void left form loosing three elements.

The key part to remember is that Korra was saved because she couldn't Airbend up until that point. If she had been able to, it would have been severed too.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 01:05:04
June 24 2012 01:02 GMT
#2632
shoulda made it goku gohan style when korra learned to air bend w/ aang but i guess they saved that for the end. Bleh + Show Spoiler +
shoulda really left tarlok and amon alive (maybe they are) but killing them off was stupid imo
, really fast pacing with a generic ending made this alright for me. I was expecting more but its hard to really get into a show that moves so fast. Still great, but could have been better

Edit : + Show Spoiler +
they really do a terrible job of explaining the transition from innocent good tarlok to manipulative bad tarlok
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leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 01:06:59
June 24 2012 01:04 GMT
#2633
I thought this episode was horribly cliche with amans background and his father literally telling him: "your purpose in life is to rule republic city and take revenge on the avatar". Not to mention how there are no loose plot ends left at all, except those we haven even started (what happened to zuko and who iroh is and how the rest of the world looks like)

Didn't like it but will still eagerly await season 2. Just having recently seen the last airbender again this show has been moving away from what made the first show so good.

Edit; To the "mystery" of how she could airbend, it was to me one of the best parts of the episodes. Obviously in that kind of situation (similar to when aang unlocked earthbending when sakka was stuck in the hole lol) it is more likely she would be able to make use of it, and aman only took the ones she knew at the time.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 24 2012 01:07 GMT
#2634
what do you mean what happened to zuko

he became the firelord and had an awesome time being awesome

General Iroh was just shameless fanservice which really wasn't needed. Same Va, "I'll just do what my grandfather would have done" oh come on

at least his Human Torch impersonation was good
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 24 2012 01:08 GMT
#2635
On June 24 2012 10:07 hooahah wrote:
what do you mean what happened to zuko

he became the firelord and had an awesome time being awesome

General Iroh was just shameless fanservice which really wasn't needed. Same Va, "I'll just do what my grandfather would have done" oh come on

at least his Human Torch impersonation was good

everything zuko did as firelord is being filled in by the graphic novel series "the promise"
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
June 24 2012 01:23 GMT
#2636
So Amon was a bender. Surprise (not really)!

It did feel a little rushed, but the whole series so far has been a bit like that. They could have gone more indepth on some things perhaps, but we don't know how much of that came from Nick. As for Aang's fixing everything, well he himself learned the whole energy bending thing after 10 minutes of screen time on a portable island so..

When's this new season then?

+ Show Spoiler +
Also does naming someone Bumi just make them like that or what?
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CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
June 24 2012 01:34 GMT
#2637
Very pleased with the finale. Maybe Iroh was a little unnecessary, but eh, fan service

I've seen comments elsewhere where people thought it was cheap that Aang showed up and fixed everything, but honestly, Roku did the same for Aang several times in the first show. The Avatar is allowed to draw upon their past lives for help, and Aang is the perfect person to fix this situation considering his experience with energy-bending. Maybe the timing was a bit last-minute, but I was still pleased.
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dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
June 24 2012 01:56 GMT
#2638
On June 24 2012 08:26 Galaxy613 wrote:
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On June 24 2012 07:53 dnld12 wrote:
Just ifinished it. I dont see how they can make a new season though . it woudl be pointless


Oh yes, exploring the restoration of Republic City, getting to know more about Bumi, Iroh, and how Asumi and Bolin undoubtably get together is a pointless season...

They probably aren't writing this by the seat of their pants and have a good story for next season too. It definitely it's like TLA but there still are hills to climb for Korra.

It would be pointless because A:

there is no foreshadowing of new events. The 'main' Bad guy has been resolved. There is no introduction of new conflict. Therefore any characters, exploring them, is pointless since You already completed EVERY TRIAL.

For example:
Bending powers, Korra solved it.
Korra losing powers, solved.
Romance issues, solved (horribly -_-)
Family issues, Solved.
Main bad guy: Dead.
So.... Yeah, it would be pointless.

The reason why Avatar L.T.A.B. worked so well is because each season built on one another. This is the water, where he learns water. Than the water sets up earth. And than Earth sets up fire. And than you Gain a continuous season in which, at the end of every season, you have something new to look forward into the new season. That makes every season 'worth' something and continuous.

I feer that Korra is creating a Vacuum series. IN which every season is its own thing, which takes away from the 'experience.' since now: NOTHING MATTERS.
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
June 24 2012 02:01 GMT
#2639
By the way, did Amon really have like a single tear at the end of the series before he died? What was t he point/symbolism of that?
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PandaMonk
Profile Joined June 2011
United States300 Posts
June 24 2012 02:05 GMT
#2640
The series finale felt so rushed. All the questions, beautifully set up, all the suspense is handled terribly. Hope next season is better.
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