EPT[TV] I will answer your LOST questions - Page 9
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Baz
United Kingdom289 Posts
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Fualtier
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Don't get me wrong I loved Lost but this thread is pointless and everyone can look up your answers in the lost wiki. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 13 2012 23:54 Baz wrote: All this stuff about character stories being "masterfully executed" and "heart-wrenching" is lowering your credibility and just making you look more like a fanboy. I am neither here nor there with my opinions on lost, I don't think it was awful and I don't think it was incredible, it was a reasonable show that unfortunately couldn't keep up to the hype of the early series. I watched every episode thanks to my girlfriend getting the box-set and I thought it was a good 7/10. However, there was very little "masterful execution" and absoloutely zero "heart-wrenching moments" (although I was gutted when we lost Eko!). If you are going to keep this thread on topic and not simply appear as a fanboy defending his favourite series, I would using such superlatives and rather just answer the questions as factually as possible. Apologies for this being a bit off-topic, however I felt a lot of your answers were off-topic and losing you credibility and begging for the questioning of the likes of Kwark and karpo. I've answered every question so far factually and honesty. I've even said when there are multiple possible explanations, or when there is none beyond some character having a power. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 13 2012 23:55 Fualtier wrote: You are answering the questions nearly as good as lost itself. Things are hyped throughout the whole series and left behind. It is the way it is ... yeah thank you very much. Plothole? The actor didn't bla, it was not relevant bla. Why put it in in the first place? The great conclusion never came. Atlest not for me. They found an ending and forgot nearly 4 seasons. Don't get me wrong I loved Lost but this thread is pointless and everyone can look up your answers in the lost wiki. What are you talking about? They probably could look up my answers on a Lost wiki. Lostpedia has a lot of information from the show, and the show answered almost everything. But if your going to ask something completely trivial and superficial like "why did the Monster kill the pilot?" or "why is there a polar bear in the comic book that Walt is reading?", seriously what sort of answer are you expecting? | ||
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Dizmaul
United States831 Posts
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:08 Jayjay54 wrote: So, whats up with adam and eve. When they are found Jack says they've been dead for (I believe) 40 years or so, but as it turns out they were already there for many centuries. Error? Or Reasoning? Error. Either Jack's or the writers. Take your pick. | ||
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Bulldog654
United States79 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:08 Dizmaul wrote: When you first started watching the show did you think there answer for everything was going to be magic? Or did it catch you by surprise also? No, I didn't think of magic or exotic matter (which wasn't introduced until Season 4). But it did occur to me that Lost had several supernatural themes from the very beginning when there was a Monster. Also it's more sophisticated than just magic: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=302876¤tpage=8#149 And to be honest, I thought the first season was quite mediocre. My main complaint was that it was far too uneventful, not much happened in 24 episodes. It was only in Season 3 and onwards, when the character development, pacing, and mindfuck moments really picked up that I really enjoyed the show. | ||
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Nallen
United Kingdom134 Posts
On January 13 2012 23:36 paralleluniverse wrote: I just had a watch of that video. Most of those "questions" aren't even questions, and most of them are completely stupid, or self-evident and obvious. Why did the Monster killed the Pilot? Who cares? Because the MIB doesn't like people, and because he can. What did Locke see? A bright light. He said that like a few scenes after if I recall. Why is this even asked? Why is there a polar bear in the comic? ... Because the comic artist drew one...? and so on. There's a 10 question limit per post as given in the OP. If you can pick out 10 serious questions from that video I'd be surprised, but I'd be happy to answer them. I was with you to a point (as in I thought you were genuine and not a ranting fan boy) but come on! Why did the Monster killed the Pilot? Who cares? What did Locke see? A bright light. Why is there a polar bear in the comic? Because the comic artist drew one...? As demonstrated by the excellent "flew to work today" analogy you're not explaining anything or if you are then these events are simply pointless and should not be in the story. You're not going to make the debate team, that much is certain. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:12 paralleluniverse wrote: No, I didn't think of magic or exotic matter (which wasn't introduced until Season 4). But it did occur to me that Lost had several supernatural themes from the very beginning when there was a Monster. Also it's more sophisticated than just magic: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=302876¤tpage=8#149 The smoke monster was a big dark cloud that sounded mechanical in nature, popping trees and dragging people away. Somehow it turns out that that mechanical dark fog thing is actually a magic immortal man, what a twist! With what Dharma was doing and what i understood from the first season i thought the black smoke was some kind of weird experiment or high tech defensive bot/ai thing, and honestly that would have been alot less generic and alot more interesting. So this "exotic matter" is time travel, seing the afterlife, moving physical objects, giving people special powers, granting people immortality, etc but it's not magic? Give me a break, it's magic just the same as the force is magic (arguably ever more so). Your bias really shows when you try to refute that. Seems like we just don't enjoy the same things. You enjoyed the series after S3 while i think the series took a nosedive about at the same time. | ||
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Dizmaul
United States831 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:12 paralleluniverse wrote: No, I didn't think of magic or exotic matter (which wasn't introduced until Season 4). But it did occur to me that Lost had several supernatural themes from the very beginning when there was a Monster. Also it's more sophisticated than just magic: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=302876¤tpage=8#149 And to be honest, I thought the first season was quite mediocre. My main complaint was that it was far too uneventful, not much happened in 24 episodes. It was only in Season 3 and onwards, when the character development, pacing, and mindfuck moments really picked up that I really enjoyed the show. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke But Lost is magic. I thought Lost was about science probably like most people. Its not more sophisticated then magic, maybe just sophisticated magic. I dont think the writers copped out or the show was bad at all. I just understand how some people thought the show was somthing diffrent by the way they built it up, and therefor where let down. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:14 Nallen wrote: I was with you to a point (as in I thought you were genuine and not a ranting fan boy) but come on! As demonstrated by the excellent "flew to work today" analogy you're not explaining anything or if you are then these events are simply pointless and should not be in the story. You're not going to make the debate team, that much is certain. Those are not questions that deserve serious attention. The reason the Monster was put into the story in the very first episode was to a) establish a clear and present danger, b) establish the mythology of the show, c) to show this was no ordinary deserted island. The Monster killed the Pilot to convey (a) and (c) to the audience. Locke saw a bright light that he called beautiful. How much more clearly does he have to say exactly that before you accept that he saw a bright light. The polar bear is in the comic book to establish it as one of the motifs and early mysteries of the show. Asking from a objective perspective, why there is a polar bear in the comic is frivolous, akin to asking why Jack Bauer is seen putting on a suit in episode 4x01 of 24. | ||
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Shorty90
Germany154 Posts
On January 13 2012 23:36 paralleluniverse wrote: I just had a watch of that video. Most of those "questions" aren't even questions, and most of them are completely stupid, or self-evident and obvious. Why did the Monster killed the Pilot? Who cares? Because the MIB doesn't like people, and because he can. What did Locke see? A bright light. He said that like a few scenes after if I recall. Why is this even asked? Why is there a polar bear in the comic? ... Because the comic artist drew one...? and so on. There's a 10 question limit per post as given in the OP. If you can pick out 10 serious questions from that video I'd be surprised, but I'd be happy to answer them. But that's my biggest problem with the show. There's so much pointless crazy shit in every episode that it's basically impossible to tell if it's going to be important or not to the overall story. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:22 karpo wrote: The smoke monster was a big dark cloud that sounded mechanical in nature, popping trees and dragging people away. Somehow it turns out that that mechanical dark fog thing is actually a magic immortal man, what a twist! With what Dharma was doing and what i understood from the first season i thought the black smoke was some kind of weird experiment or high tech defensive bot/ai thing, and honestly that would have been alot less generic and alot more interesting. So this "exotic matter" is time travel, seing the afterlife, moving physical objects, giving people special powers, granting people immortality, etc but it's not magic? Give me a break, it's magic just the same as the force is magic (arguably ever more so). Your bias really shows when you try to refute that. Seems like we just don't enjoy the same things. You enjoyed the series after S3 while i think the series took a nosedive about at the same time. There is evidence that the exotic matter is related to life after death. From a scientific perspective, exotic matter can refer to, for example, tachyons, hypothetical particles responsible for time travel. From a science fiction media point of view, this is no more less believable than, say, genetic mutation allowing mutants to read minds and control metal. There really isn't any evidence linking the exotic matter to characters with powers or letting them be immortal. In fact, Miles had the power to read dead people before going to the island. | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
1) why did the writers (or maybe more relevant, as a fan are you somewhat mad) that they made statements like this very early on in the show: ...the show's producers say that there is no single explanation and that a simple answer would leave viewers dissatisfied. "We go on record saying, 'Here's what it's not,' " says Damon Lindelof, who created Lost with J.J. Abrams (Alias, Mission: Impossible III). Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, the executive producers who oversee Lost, say the survivors are not dead and trapped in some kind of purgatory..... and then it essentially was that? Regardless of whether you want to label it purgatory, you even said earlier in the thread the explanation for jack is that his "soul is still trapped" (iirc). It's clearly some kind of death/purgatory. 2) What do you think about how the characters were able to "remember" the island when they were in the real world. More specifically, why did Charlie have to nearly drown again to remember yet other characters started remembering just by a simple glance? Charlie really got the short end of the stick there. 3) What was the drawing in pink/purple that flashed up in the hatch when Locke had his leg stuck under the door (when he didn't press the button in time)? I never payed close enough attention to tell what it was. | ||
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
Having some characters that started great, but ended horribly annoying (Kate) or that were simply horribly annoying from the very start (Walt/Michael, Nikki/Paolo) didn't help either. The ending wasn't everyone's cup of tea, too, and a lot of people expected it to be some mystery / thriller show only to realize later that it was borderline scifi/fantasy and not their preferred genre. That being said: LOST is probably one of the greatest shows I've ever seen. I enjoyed it very much and have recommended it to pretty much everyone I know. Not only does it have a development and story that's largely coherent (albeit a bit weird at times), but there are so many details, most of which you'll only get once you've watched it a second or third time, that turn it into a very special piece of entertainment. There's almost no episode that doesn't have at least one cleverly hidden number reference or quote / piece of dialogue which only makes sense once you've seen the whole thing (such as the MIB posing as Yemi saying "You almost sound like my brother" somewhere in S2). As for this topic: I don't really think the show leaves "open questions" except for that were deliberately not explained (what is the source etc.) and just had to be accepted for what they were in the context of the story. 3) What was the drawing in pink/purple that flashed up in the hatch when Locke had his leg stuck under the door (when he didn't press the button in time)? I never payed close enough attention to tell what it was. That was a map of other / all Dharma stations on the island. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:39 Crownlol wrote: After season 3, this became one of the worst-written shows in tv history... not sure why there's a thread on it Even though, in the end, this thread is about nothing but opinions (and it's perfectly fine if some people didn't like the show in question), you should refrain from posting if you can contribute nothing but complaints. Doesn't add, doesn't help, and doesn't make you appear clever or bright either. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On January 14 2012 00:34 N.geNuity wrote: I'll ask some more opinionated questions, I understand that the answers are not much more than "the writers did it that way". 1) why did the writers (or maybe more relevant, as a fan are you somewhat mad) that they made statements like this very early on in the show: and then it essentially was that? Regardless of whether you want to label it purgatory, you even said earlier in the thread the explanation for jack is that his "soul is still trapped" (iirc). It's clearly some kind of death/purgatory. 2) What do you think about how the characters were able to "remember" the island when they were in the real world. More specifically, why did Charlie have to nearly drown again to remember yet other characters started remembering just by a simple glance? Charlie really got the short end of the stick there. 3) What was the drawing in pink/purple that flashed up in the hatch when Locke had his leg stuck under the door (when he didn't press the button in time)? I never payed close enough attention to tell what it was. 1) You got it the other way around. The Island is real, and the flash-sideways was the afterlife. So when in Season 1 Lindelof said they're not in purgatory, he is correct. They were in fact NOT in purgatory, they were on the Island, in the real world. A timeline that only started in Season 6 was purgatory, the afterlife, the flashsideways, whatever you want to call it. 2) They seem to remember in near-death, high adrenaline moments,or highly emotional moments when stimulated by someone they knew in their real life (i.e, the Island). E.g. Locke partly remembered when Desmond bashed him to near death, Sawyer remembered when he met Juliet, Jack remembered when he met Kate and touched his Father's coffin. 3) http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Blast_door_map | ||
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