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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
March 25 2012 17:37 GMT
#281
A sucky movie.

Terrible camera, dumbed down predictable plot, tipical blockbuster. 4/10.

Waste of money.

I can feel people compairing it with Twilight. I hope the books are better.
I am not good with quotes
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 25 2012 17:39 GMT
#282
On March 25 2012 22:50 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 22:26 zalz wrote:
On March 25 2012 22:22 TritaN wrote:
I went into the movie having never read the Hunger Games books, and even though the basic premise is identical to Battle Royale, I was willing to believe the author when she said she's never heard of BR before.

And then I saw the movie.

+ Show Spoiler +

My first seed of doubt was when they explained in the movie that Haymitch was the winner of a previous game, and will be helping the main characters...

Shogo, anyone?

But hey, could be a coincidence I guess.

But then:
Tyrannical government places all the kids on one heavily-monitored island to fight to the death for the entertainment of the masses. They receive duffel bags containing random weapons. The main characters are adolescent lovebirds (genuine or not) taking care of each other's injuries -- alliances, overly-enthusiastic sociopaths mixed with innocent seemingly helpless kids...


There's just no way. Sorry. She's a liar.


And all heist movies are 'Heat' rip-offs.

After all, they all include a charismatic cast of bank robbers, planning a heist.

There's a difference between copying the general plot, and copying major plot twists/plot points.


Which they didn't, so the comparison falls flat.

Sure, people that want to see Battle Royale in this are going to see Battle Royale in it. But objectively speaking, the movies are far too different to be considered rip-offs.

For example, children don't receive duffel bags containing ranomd weapons.

The romance is forced because that is what the audience (the people in the world that are watching the hunger games, not the real-life audience) want to see and they respond to it by giving them money and items.

Alliances aren't a rip-off. In what universe where people are thrown in to battle to the death, would there not be alliances? Battle royale has dozens of alliances, this movie only has one actual alliance. Given the setting, of course the writer would work in an alliance.

If they didn't, the audience would ask why they aren't teaming up and complaining that people aren't acting realistic.

There aren't any sociopaths in this film. Battle Royale had a real sociopath, this movie has kids that are trained to take part in the hunger games, so of course they are going to be more eager to kill, that is how they are raised. Battle Royale just had a character that joined (or was forced to join) on purpose because he liked to murder.

In Battle Royale, the kids don't fight for entertainment, they just fight as a form of oppression. In Hunger Games they fight as both a form of oppression and as entertainment, providing a critique on reality television.


You can make a billion invalid comparisons (kids in both movies have legs) but that doesn't mean that the stories are the same.

They have the same setup, both have kids fighting each other to the death, but that doesn't instantly make it a rip-off. One can take identical setups and do completely different things with it.

I have seen + read Battle Royale and I have seen + read Hunger Games. They aren't the same, they aren't rip-offs.
buickskylark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada664 Posts
March 25 2012 17:40 GMT
#283
why is peeta so much shorter than katniss? I never read the book or seen the movie, but i never figured out why gale is more stereotypical male lead and yet peeta is the love interest i guess?
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
March 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#284
On March 26 2012 02:39 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 22:50 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On March 25 2012 22:26 zalz wrote:
On March 25 2012 22:22 TritaN wrote:
I went into the movie having never read the Hunger Games books, and even though the basic premise is identical to Battle Royale, I was willing to believe the author when she said she's never heard of BR before.

And then I saw the movie.

+ Show Spoiler +

My first seed of doubt was when they explained in the movie that Haymitch was the winner of a previous game, and will be helping the main characters...

Shogo, anyone?

But hey, could be a coincidence I guess.

But then:
Tyrannical government places all the kids on one heavily-monitored island to fight to the death for the entertainment of the masses. They receive duffel bags containing random weapons. The main characters are adolescent lovebirds (genuine or not) taking care of each other's injuries -- alliances, overly-enthusiastic sociopaths mixed with innocent seemingly helpless kids...


There's just no way. Sorry. She's a liar.


And all heist movies are 'Heat' rip-offs.

After all, they all include a charismatic cast of bank robbers, planning a heist.

There's a difference between copying the general plot, and copying major plot twists/plot points.


Which they didn't, so the comparison falls flat.

Sure, people that want to see Battle Royale in this are going to see Battle Royale in it. But objectively speaking, the movies are far too different to be considered rip-offs.

For example, children don't receive duffel bags containing ranomd weapons.

The romance is forced because that is what the audience (the people in the world that are watching the hunger games, not the real-life audience) want to see and they respond to it by giving them money and items.

Alliances aren't a rip-off. In what universe where people are thrown in to battle to the death, would there not be alliances? Battle royale has dozens of alliances, this movie only has one actual alliance. Given the setting, of course the writer would work in an alliance.

If they didn't, the audience would ask why they aren't teaming up and complaining that people aren't acting realistic.

There aren't any sociopaths in this film. Battle Royale had a real sociopath, this movie has kids that are trained to take part in the hunger games, so of course they are going to be more eager to kill, that is how they are raised. Battle Royale just had a character that joined (or was forced to join) on purpose because he liked to murder.

In Battle Royale, the kids don't fight for entertainment, they just fight as a form of oppression. In Hunger Games they fight as both a form of oppression and as entertainment, providing a critique on reality television.


You can make a billion invalid comparisons (kids in both movies have legs) but that doesn't mean that the stories are the same.

They have the same setup, both have kids fighting each other to the death, but that doesn't instantly make it a rip-off. One can take identical setups and do completely different things with it.

I have seen + read Battle Royale and I have seen + read Hunger Games. They aren't the same, they aren't rip-offs.


In the sense that the themes are similar, the two movies are similar. But asides from the obvious rebellion against order when order loses touch and the method of bring this about, there really aren't that many similarities.
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NotAPro
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada146 Posts
March 25 2012 18:18 GMT
#285
Never ceases to amaze how many obnoxious hipsters frequent this site.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 20:34:03
March 25 2012 18:53 GMT
#286
+ Show Spoiler [spoilers about the movie or something…] +
Hey spoilers alert, in the catching fire they are having another game by inviting every past winners into it. Kinda like NBA all-star.
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Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
March 25 2012 19:41 GMT
#287
You know there is a spoiler tag, right?
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 25 2012 20:49 GMT
#288
On March 26 2012 04:41 Vardant wrote:
You know there is a spoiler tag, right?


wasn't spoiling the movie or anything right....
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
March 25 2012 22:01 GMT
#289
Wait people don't like shaky cameras? It completely loses the feeling when the camera is stale. This is probably the main reason I hate 3d movies.
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Seala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden118 Posts
March 25 2012 23:53 GMT
#290
I don't really get the amount of hate this movie is getting? I agree that it might not be a 8.1 as it is according to IMDB, and yes the plot is fairly predictable but overall the movie is very well made, the story is still pretty good and so are the characters, especially Katniss in my opinion.
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
March 26 2012 00:00 GMT
#291
On March 26 2012 03:18 NotAPro wrote:
Never ceases to amaze how many obnoxious hipsters frequent this site.


So if people have certain taste in well-written and well-directed movies, and point out gaping flaws in b-grade movies they are obnoxious hipsters?

Haven't seen the movie, but the book was pretty bad. Much prefer to read battle royale or even watch the (inferior to the book) movie, has much more social commentary and is written far more cleverly.
eg9
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway43 Posts
March 26 2012 00:09 GMT
#292
5/10 for me.

I feel the concept of kids down to 12 years old fighting to the death is a pretty brutal concept to base a pg-13 on and the movie really feels these restraints.
I have not read the books but from the earlier comments i can sort of get that the story is a bit darker? From my view the entire movie just ended up being absurd. They are constantly warned about natural dangers, however you see almost nobody having issues with cold, malnourishment, lack of water etc. I feel the movie really could have portrayed the horror of being in a situation where most likely you are going to die and the psycholocial affects this has on people.

Also some of the decisioins that were made in the movie seemed really wierd and badly thought out. I can see the argument in teaming up being a good decision, however if I were any one of the members in the first group; obviously consisting of the strongest members,I would be prioritizing picking of the strongest opposition as easily as i could. This would mean looking for any chance at killing the other group members. And even if i did not think this way i still would have to worry constantly about others thinking the same way. This would lead to a huge ammount of paranoia amongst the members in such a group and nobody would like to turn their back on any of the others, not to mention sleeping near them. The movie seems to completely ignore this.

For me the plot and the target audience are too distanced and the movie seems to get torn appart between the two. Also, the thing about the main characters faking their love i could sort see would be a smart move, but the movie never gives off much of an indication that they are, in fact, staging anything.

As to the fact that BR and this movie is very similar is quite obvious seeing as both stories capture what seems to be a futuristic interpretation of ancient rome.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
March 26 2012 00:13 GMT
#293
Thought it was good for what it was. A PG-13 movie trying to appeal to a wide audience. I agree that BR is much better.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
March 26 2012 00:46 GMT
#294
I inhaled the books when I first started reading them. They were surprisingly fast paced at points. The only real criticism of them was that the inner voice of the main character became irritating and so repetitive by the time we reach the 3rd book. I had wanted her to live for the first 2 books, but in the 3rd book I was hoping she would die.

The movie felt faster than the books at times, but was all in all less satisfying for me. It was still a treat to watch, but it had the character that alot of films like that do, where they need to try to stay close to the source material, but can't make a four hour movie. As a result, some parts felt rushed in the film.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 26 2012 02:58 GMT
#295
The 3rd book was an absolute disaster.
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Rasun
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States787 Posts
March 26 2012 03:04 GMT
#296
On March 26 2012 11:58 Ace wrote:
The 3rd book was an absolute disaster.


Very much agree, really enjoyed the first two and then I felt like everything was so condensed and shallow in the third book, Collins should have stretched this series out into at least like 5 books, it just all wraps up too neatly. Does not give a sense of depth or scale to the world at all.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 26 2012 03:19 GMT
#297
Seeing a lot of bad reviews here. Guessing if majority of people here that watched it would look back and say they wish they had taken their money elsewhere. I have not seen it yet, but with movies around here costing $12 to see, I'd rather not see if people didn't like.
Poll: I watched the movie, and

I definately enjoyed it (25)
 
52%

It was so-so, if you have money to spend its ok (19)
 
40%

It was a waste of money (4)
 
8%

48 total votes

Your vote: I watched the movie, and

(Vote): I definately enjoyed it
(Vote): It was so-so, if you have money to spend its ok
(Vote): It was a waste of money


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tw!tch
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States563 Posts
March 26 2012 03:23 GMT
#298
I voted "so-so". I went with my girlfriend, and believe me if I had to choose between that and Twilight I'd see Hunger Games a hundred times. It wasn't my cup of tea, but I still enjoyed it. Don't think it should be getting quite as much hate as it is, give it a shot if someone asks you to go.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
March 26 2012 03:30 GMT
#299
http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/rb1bo/before_reddit_launches_an_inevitable_hate_parade/

It's a good film.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 26 2012 03:32 GMT
#300
Saw it today. It's not a bad flick, just... lacking. There was no real feeling of conclusion, no real character growth, no big plot development other than the Games themselves. There was just a lot of walking in the woods and then action sequences. Slow and aimless.

However, all the actors were really good, the sets were amazingly put together (in the city anyway, the woods are woods), and the special effects were decent. It was fine to just sit there and watch without really thinking.
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