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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 25 2012 03:06 GMT
#261
Honestly, I liked the first book ok, but after that I really didn't like them. The writing got sloppy, and the characters crossed over each other. And, especially in the third book, it felt like she decided half of the things on the spot. "Oh, I will kill this character! I'll just write that in right here." The characters mourned for about a page and then forgot about it for the rest of the book. And at the end, she commits a MAJOR crime but practically instantly everything comes back to normal. Oh good she is living back at her old home, and nobody really cares about what she did other than madatory psychiatry thats fake.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 04:50:43
March 25 2012 04:49 GMT
#262
On March 25 2012 03:41 YoureFired wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:08 Doomwish wrote:
On March 25 2012 00:06 EAGER-beaver wrote:
On March 24 2012 18:14 Doomwish wrote:
7/10 .
I would rate it higher but the abysmal action sequences with the shaky camera really disappointed me.

Why must directors get so lazy with fight scenes? Seems like very few directors in Hollywood actually go for wide shots with well choreographed fights.

Nope.. just gonna stick the camera 5 inches from the actors and shake it like crazy, yup...action folks EZPZ.


Choreographed fight scenes! That's definitely what the book was missing and the movie should've remedied this with some jazzed up fight scenes a la matrix. Instead of bullet time, they can have arrow time, and rewrite chunks of the book for the movie to make it more believable, like 5 years of intense combat training instead of the 3 days the contestants are given in the book so we can watch some sweet kungfu and weapon combat scenes.



Right , because a realistic action scenes dumbs down a movie....ugh.

You totally missed my point..Did i say it should have kung-fu? There were clearly scenes in the book and the movie involving confrontation that could of been done much better. The shaky camera crap is just......bad. Small things like gritty realism in scenes such as these are what separate every other film from great films.

It's basically like movie make-up. Hiding the fact that nothing resembling an actual fight is going on with a camera shot that makes it impossible to see whats going on.

I have an idea..lets just black out the screen and make a lot of noise. It just seems like a "PG-13- mode" moment.

Why not have good action? Some people like stuff like that to distract from the tween love story with akward acting. This really was an average movie at best. At least for adults, I guess it makes sense since its aimed at 12 year olds, aw well .


I thought some of the changes, while detracting from the darkness and grittiness of the book, were necessary to not make the movie totally unacceptable for people in the 11-15 age range. Yes, as older viewers we would like some more realistic fighting, but unfortunately they can't just alienate their main market in order to show a bit more blood. The only change that I disliked was how they made it less clear that Peeta and Katniss's love was fake, although I'm unsure how they could show this without some internal monologues.


They should have just had the talk at the end where she mentions to him that they need to keep on pretending.

Anyways I actually liked the shakey camera a bit. Maybe not necessarily the shakey-ness of it, but I really liked the close up and intimate shots that they used for District 12. I thought everything up to and including the reaping was very well done.
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
March 25 2012 05:01 GMT
#263
Not too bad but could have been 20 minutes shorter and the black guy could have won but didn't T_T.
MercilessMonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada150 Posts
March 25 2012 05:12 GMT
#264
So good. Although that part where he was camouflaged with the rock with absolutely ridiculous and made everyone in the theatre laugh due to absurdity. Really liked it otherwise, thought they did a great job. Cinematography was sick, and the shaky camera stuff around D12 worked for me. Glad it wasn't in 3D.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
March 25 2012 05:37 GMT
#265
On March 25 2012 11:51 DoX.) wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catching_Fire_(2009_novel)#Film_adaptation
So apparently the sequel has been green lighted. Yay!


I'm glad because it really felt like the end of this was really odd, I don't know if I can say bad, but it definitely didn't seem to give me a "closing" feeling. I definitely enjoyed most of it, but the ending was like
+ Show Spoiler +
"you both can live :D :D!!, wait, kill each other, oh shit don't kill yourselves that's BM, fuck fine both of you can live but I'm mad now" and then him being mad resulted in nothing?

Perhaps it was meant to be a cliff hanger for the sequel, but I don't really think that's a good way to do these kinds of things (that something so (seemingly) small will go untold because they want to keep interest?).
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 25 2012 06:36 GMT
#266
On March 25 2012 14:37 Sprungjeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 11:51 DoX.) wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catching_Fire_(2009_novel)#Film_adaptation
So apparently the sequel has been green lighted. Yay!


I'm glad because it really felt like the end of this was really odd, I don't know if I can say bad, but it definitely didn't seem to give me a "closing" feeling. I definitely enjoyed most of it, but the ending was like
+ Show Spoiler +
"you both can live :D :D!!, wait, kill each other, oh shit don't kill yourselves that's BM, fuck fine both of you can live but I'm mad now" and then him being mad resulted in nothing?

Perhaps it was meant to be a cliff hanger for the sequel, but I don't really think that's a good way to do these kinds of things (that something so (seemingly) small will go untold because they want to keep interest?).


The way Snow looked into the camera and turned was obviously implying a sequel.

Not sure what else he could have done, other than cackle and explain his plans as he walked up the stairs.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
March 25 2012 07:35 GMT
#267
I haven't read the books, so I don't have any background on the material besides seeing the trailer and knowing the general story. After watching it tonight, I thought it was a pretty good movie. The only things I didn't like was how slow some parts felt and the shaky camera style. It was hard knowing what was going on sometimes. I can understand that if they wanted to use that style to capture a fight and to show the chaos, but it went on and on. It wasn't just the fighting, but also the scene of her hallucinating. I liked the cinematography of that scene and how they made it look like time relapsing, but it made me a little sick, which says a lot since I usually don't get motion sickness. A lot of people in the theater laughed when they showed the intimate scenes between Katniss and Peeta and the scene switched to Gale, lol.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 25 2012 07:57 GMT
#268
The shaky cam is mostly there to assure a PG-13 rating.

Showing someone getting cut down with a sword is apparently fine if you shake the camera, hinting at what happened.


This movie suffers because of its PG-13 rating. I don't think it was bad directing. They just didn't have a lot of other options if they wanted to get the target audience.

Kinda shows how broken the system is though. Showing a breast will send your rating through the roof. Having 24 kids murder each other lets you keep the PG-13.
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
March 25 2012 09:53 GMT
#269
i heard the books were merely okay. and after seeing the preview, i was quick to write the movie off as a westernized, prettied up, less gut wrenching Battle Royale. but some friends wanted to go see it and i tagged along.

it about met my expectations. maybe exceeded them a tad bit. the world of the movie is typical dumbed down 1984. plot is fairly predictable, a family being torn apart, kids being cut off from their loved ones, thrown into a new world, set against each other. paranoia and anxiety ensue, and then the bloodletting starts. you can see most of it coming a mile off. none of the acting particularly stands out, aside from this one extremely sympathetic hairdresser guy who helps the lead female out a lot. and there was one scene that was pretty sad, which shows that at its peak moment, this movie could maybe achieve 50% of the pure harrowing horror/despair that battle royale inflicts non stop.

however, i have to say that, for a movie that depicts kids being killed by each other en masse, and attempts to do so in a somewhat kid-friendly fashion, this did a fairly good job. only maybe 3 people in the audience (which in my case consisted of lots of soccer moms, middle aged folk and kids clearly too young for this sort of fare) ended up crying, and i suspect at least one of them was forcing it, out of jealousy for the other 2 dry heaving and getting attention. only 1 dude left the theatre. the movie was just the right amount of hardcore for your average American suburban moviegoing crowd, and still manages to be decent, which is surprising given the subject matter.

wouldnt exactly recommend it, but its not a terrible movie, and is a bit engaging at times. mostly i was thinking what a cool counterstrike mod it would make, but to each his own.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
TelV
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany121 Posts
March 25 2012 10:22 GMT
#270
I watched the movie yesterday and I was pretty disappointed. The whole time they were in the arena I felt like nothing was really happening, like the time wasnt really flowing. Pretty hard to explain but i'll try anyways. FROM NOW ON SPOILERS
+ Show Spoiler +
What happend in the Arena appart from Katniss cutting down the waspnest, her being shot by those fireballs and the final scene and all that qq with Peter? It just was incredibly boring. It almost felt like they didnt have any jumps in time and those 4 days in the arena were real-time filmed or smth.And yeah the end with those berries just did not seem right.It just didnt Her killing Peter would have fitted much much better IMO


Tl;Dr: Boring Movie with barely any plot,bad ending
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
March 25 2012 10:41 GMT
#271
On March 25 2012 19:22 TelV wrote:
I watched the movie yesterday and I was pretty disappointed. The whole time they were in the arena I felt like nothing was really happening, like the time wasnt really flowing. Pretty hard to explain but i'll try anyways. FROM NOW ON SPOILERS
+ Show Spoiler +
What happend in the Arena appart from Katniss cutting down the waspnest, her being shot by those fireballs and the final scene and all that qq with Peter? It just was incredibly boring. It almost felt like they didnt have any jumps in time and those 4 days in the arena were real-time filmed or smth.And yeah the end with those berries just did not seem right.It just didnt Her killing Peter would have fitted much much better IMO


Tl;Dr: Boring Movie with barely any plot,bad ending


Sorry but you make little sense. It was clearly shown that it was night several times in the forest, people slept etc. Care to explain why you think it would be a better ending would be her killing him? Because I suspect you say this only because of some anti main stream whim like "unhappy ending would make the teenage girls that I despise dislike the movie, so then maybe I can admit I like it".

I for one thought the ending was brilliant. To change the rule allowing two victors in the last moment after they thought they had made it and loved each other (if that's what they really did) was extremely cruel. And being this cruel solely for the entertainment of the Capitol showed how much at their mercy the districts were. Katniss and Peeta made a very significant stand against this oppression by forcing the rule to be changed back.
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Defrag
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 10:47:40
March 25 2012 10:45 GMT
#272
Terrible movie, no idea how it's rated 8.2

Boring, action is slow, acting is poor, final battle feels like nothing special, the movie doesnt have any strong ending as well, and half of the stuff is SOOOOOOOO easy to predict.


TelV
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany121 Posts
March 25 2012 10:45 GMT
#273
On March 25 2012 19:41 FreeZer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 19:22 TelV wrote:
I watched the movie yesterday and I was pretty disappointed. The whole time they were in the arena I felt like nothing was really happening, like the time wasnt really flowing. Pretty hard to explain but i'll try anyways. FROM NOW ON SPOILERS
+ Show Spoiler +
What happend in the Arena appart from Katniss cutting down the waspnest, her being shot by those fireballs and the final scene and all that qq with Peter? It just was incredibly boring. It almost felt like they didnt have any jumps in time and those 4 days in the arena were real-time filmed or smth.And yeah the end with those berries just did not seem right.It just didnt Her killing Peter would have fitted much much better IMO


Tl;Dr: Boring Movie with barely any plot,bad ending


Sorry but you make little sense. It was clearly shown that it was night several times in the forest, people slept etc. Care to explain why you think it would be a better ending would be her killing him? Because I suspect you say this only because of some anti main stream whim like "unhappy ending would make the teenage girls that I despise dislike the movie, so then maybe I can admit I like it".

I for one thought the ending was brilliant. To change the rule allowing two victors in the last moment after they thought they had made it and loved each other (if that's what they really did) was extremely cruel. And being this cruel solely for the entertainment of the Capitol showed how much at their mercy the districts were. Katniss and Peeta made a very significant stand against this oppression by forcing the rule to be changed back.


I don't know about you but ,for me, it was pretty obvious that they would change the rule back to only 1 winner as soon as only Peter and Katniss were left. And then, yeah of course, they find some dramatic way to force them to change the rule back to 2 winners again. It would have been more unexpected if, for example, Peter tried to killed Katniss,I mean he already betrayed her before so why should'nt he do it again. Or Katniss would be in such a weird mindset that she just freaked the fuck out and killed Peter in a moment of desperation. Well whatever, can't change it.
Forgot to say before in my first post, the whole movie felt pretty easy to predict...it just happend they way you would have expected it and I dont really like that. Maybe some ppl do, I do not.
FreeZer
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden288 Posts
March 25 2012 10:55 GMT
#274
On March 25 2012 19:45 TelV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 19:41 FreeZer wrote:
On March 25 2012 19:22 TelV wrote:
I watched the movie yesterday and I was pretty disappointed. The whole time they were in the arena I felt like nothing was really happening, like the time wasnt really flowing. Pretty hard to explain but i'll try anyways. FROM NOW ON SPOILERS
+ Show Spoiler +
What happend in the Arena appart from Katniss cutting down the waspnest, her being shot by those fireballs and the final scene and all that qq with Peter? It just was incredibly boring. It almost felt like they didnt have any jumps in time and those 4 days in the arena were real-time filmed or smth.And yeah the end with those berries just did not seem right.It just didnt Her killing Peter would have fitted much much better IMO


Tl;Dr: Boring Movie with barely any plot,bad ending


Sorry but you make little sense. It was clearly shown that it was night several times in the forest, people slept etc. Care to explain why you think it would be a better ending would be her killing him? Because I suspect you say this only because of some anti main stream whim like "unhappy ending would make the teenage girls that I despise dislike the movie, so then maybe I can admit I like it".

I for one thought the ending was brilliant. To change the rule allowing two victors in the last moment after they thought they had made it and loved each other (if that's what they really did) was extremely cruel. And being this cruel solely for the entertainment of the Capitol showed how much at their mercy the districts were. Katniss and Peeta made a very significant stand against this oppression by forcing the rule to be changed back.


I don't know about you but ,for me, it was pretty obvious that they would change the rule back to only 1 winner as soon as only Peter and Katniss were left. And then, yeah of course, they find some dramatic way to force them to change the rule back to 2 winners again. It would have been more unexpected if, for example, Peter tried to killed Katniss,I mean he already betrayed her before so why should'nt he do it again. Or Katniss would be in such a weird mindset that she just freaked the fuck out and killed Peter in a moment of desperation. Well whatever, can't change it.
Forgot to say before in my first post, the whole movie felt pretty easy to predict...it just happend they way you would have expected it and I dont really like that. Maybe some ppl do, I do not.


It would indeed be very unexpected if Peter tried to kill Katniss, mostly because it wouldn't fit in the plot at all. He obviously loved her, and he never betrayed her. I'm not sure why he followed that group around, possibly because he was caught and didn't have a choice, but I'm quite sure he never meant to betray her. You can't really wish for unexpected things just for the sake of them being unexpected. With that reasoning, it would have made a great movie if Van Helsning stormed in and started flinging silver bullets about. If he would have betrayed her in the end and tried to kill her, the plot would have had to give hints about this somehow. It can't just come straight out of the blue. It's great to be unexpected but it has to make sense.
Ahh Scept-- hey where did you come from?
a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 11:05:32
March 25 2012 11:00 GMT
#275
just saw the movie yesterday.. i initially thought the movie was pretty decent but later realized it lacked so much substance.... the storyline was way too straightforward and expected.. there aren't any twists whatsoever. idk.. just felt that there was a huge lack of substance and depth. 3/5 at best for me
edit: i do however feel that the idea of the story is quite interesting, but just don't feel like the movie was really great..
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
March 25 2012 12:56 GMT
#276
On March 25 2012 19:45 Defrag wrote:
Terrible movie, no idea how it's rated 8.2

Boring, action is slow, acting is poor, final battle feels like nothing special, the movie doesnt have any strong ending as well, and half of the stuff is SOOOOOOOO easy to predict.


How is a movie to blame for being easy to predict if it is an adaptation of the book? Also, bad acting? Are you for real?
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TritaN
Profile Joined December 2010
United States406 Posts
March 25 2012 13:22 GMT
#277
I went into the movie having never read the Hunger Games books, and even though the basic premise is identical to Battle Royale, I was willing to believe the author when she said she's never heard of BR before.

And then I saw the movie.

+ Show Spoiler +

My first seed of doubt was when they explained in the movie that Haymitch was the winner of a previous game, and will be helping the main characters...

Shogo, anyone?

But hey, could be a coincidence I guess.

But then:
Tyrannical government places all the kids on one heavily-monitored island to fight to the death for the entertainment of the masses. They receive duffel bags containing random weapons. The main characters are adolescent lovebirds (genuine or not) taking care of each other's injuries -- alliances, overly-enthusiastic sociopaths mixed with innocent seemingly helpless kids...


There's just no way. Sorry. She's a liar.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 25 2012 13:26 GMT
#278
On March 25 2012 22:22 TritaN wrote:
I went into the movie having never read the Hunger Games books, and even though the basic premise is identical to Battle Royale, I was willing to believe the author when she said she's never heard of BR before.

And then I saw the movie.

+ Show Spoiler +

My first seed of doubt was when they explained in the movie that Haymitch was the winner of a previous game, and will be helping the main characters...

Shogo, anyone?

But hey, could be a coincidence I guess.

But then:
Tyrannical government places all the kids on one heavily-monitored island to fight to the death for the entertainment of the masses. They receive duffel bags containing random weapons. The main characters are adolescent lovebirds (genuine or not) taking care of each other's injuries -- alliances, overly-enthusiastic sociopaths mixed with innocent seemingly helpless kids...


There's just no way. Sorry. She's a liar.


And all heist movies are 'Heat' rip-offs.

After all, they all include a charismatic cast of bank robbers, planning a heist.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 25 2012 13:50 GMT
#279
On March 25 2012 22:26 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 22:22 TritaN wrote:
I went into the movie having never read the Hunger Games books, and even though the basic premise is identical to Battle Royale, I was willing to believe the author when she said she's never heard of BR before.

And then I saw the movie.

+ Show Spoiler +

My first seed of doubt was when they explained in the movie that Haymitch was the winner of a previous game, and will be helping the main characters...

Shogo, anyone?

But hey, could be a coincidence I guess.

But then:
Tyrannical government places all the kids on one heavily-monitored island to fight to the death for the entertainment of the masses. They receive duffel bags containing random weapons. The main characters are adolescent lovebirds (genuine or not) taking care of each other's injuries -- alliances, overly-enthusiastic sociopaths mixed with innocent seemingly helpless kids...


There's just no way. Sorry. She's a liar.


And all heist movies are 'Heat' rip-offs.

After all, they all include a charismatic cast of bank robbers, planning a heist.

There's a difference between copying the general plot, and copying major plot twists/plot points.
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Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
March 25 2012 17:27 GMT
#280
On March 25 2012 19:45 TelV wrote:
It would have been more unexpected if, for example, Peter tried to killed Katniss,I mean he already betrayed her before so why should'nt he do it again.

He never betrays her, he joins up with that group to steer them away.
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