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I thought the movie was great, really. There definitely were some flaws though.
About the black girl, + Show Spoiler +the black girl just reminded her about her sister back home, so seeing her dead was like a shock, like "oh my God, I now have firsthand experience of how these games pit against two random people to kill each other when we could have been friends; this is evil." I was fine with that.
The one thing I didn't like, though, was the love triangle. + Show Spoiler +It seemed so much like it was actual love instead of faking it, which would have been much more like katniss, I think. Getting sponsors helped them a lot (Don't deny it, practically giving them the ability to walk and run is immensely useful.), so clearly Katniss would be willing to fake up some BS love for Peeta to win easily. However, the film made it seem so real, and that really does warrant a kind of comparison to Twilight.
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On March 24 2012 19:43 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 18:14 Doomwish wrote:
7/10 .
I would rate it higher but the abysmal action sequences with the shaky camera really disappointed me.
Why must directors get so lazy with fight scenes? Seems like very few directors in Hollywood actually go for wide shots with well choreographed fights.
Nope.. just gonna stick the camera 5 inches from the actors and shake it like crazy, yup...action folks EZPZ. There are movies where close-up hand-held camera works for that (vide Bourne trilogy) and movies where fight sequences are done the way you say in a superb way (vide Ironclad and Alatriste).
No. it was horrible in bourne trilogy as well..this is just lazy direction IMO, it takes more time and effort to create a realistic fight.
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On March 25 2012 00:06 EAGER-beaver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 18:14 Doomwish wrote:
7/10 .
I would rate it higher but the abysmal action sequences with the shaky camera really disappointed me.
Why must directors get so lazy with fight scenes? Seems like very few directors in Hollywood actually go for wide shots with well choreographed fights.
Nope.. just gonna stick the camera 5 inches from the actors and shake it like crazy, yup...action folks EZPZ. Choreographed fight scenes! That's definitely what the book was missing and the movie should've remedied this with some jazzed up fight scenes a la matrix. Instead of bullet time, they can have arrow time, and rewrite chunks of the book for the movie to make it more believable, like 5 years of intense combat training instead of the 3 days the contestants are given in the book so we can watch some sweet kungfu and weapon combat scenes.
Right , because a realistic action scenes dumbs down a movie....ugh.
You totally missed my point..Did i say it should have kung-fu? There were clearly scenes in the book and the movie involving confrontation that could of been done much better. The shaky camera crap is just......bad. Small things like gritty realism in scenes such as these are what separate every other film from great films.
It's basically like movie make-up. Hiding the fact that nothing resembling an actual fight is going on with a camera shot that makes it impossible to see whats going on.
I have an idea..lets just black out the screen and make a lot of noise. It just seems like a "PG-13- mode" moment.
Why not have good action? Some people like stuff like that to distract from the tween love story with akward acting. This really was an average movie at best. At least for adults, I guess it makes sense since its aimed at 12 year olds, aw well  .
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On March 25 2012 03:08 Doomwish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 00:06 EAGER-beaver wrote:On March 24 2012 18:14 Doomwish wrote:
7/10 .
I would rate it higher but the abysmal action sequences with the shaky camera really disappointed me.
Why must directors get so lazy with fight scenes? Seems like very few directors in Hollywood actually go for wide shots with well choreographed fights.
Nope.. just gonna stick the camera 5 inches from the actors and shake it like crazy, yup...action folks EZPZ. Choreographed fight scenes! That's definitely what the book was missing and the movie should've remedied this with some jazzed up fight scenes a la matrix. Instead of bullet time, they can have arrow time, and rewrite chunks of the book for the movie to make it more believable, like 5 years of intense combat training instead of the 3 days the contestants are given in the book so we can watch some sweet kungfu and weapon combat scenes. Right , because a realistic action scenes dumbs down a movie....ugh. You totally missed my point..Did i say it should have kung-fu? There were clearly scenes in the book and the movie involving confrontation that could of been done much better. The shaky camera crap is just......bad. Small things like gritty realism in scenes such as these are what separate every other film from great films. It's basically like movie make-up. Hiding the fact that nothing resembling an actual fight is going on with a camera shot that makes it impossible to see whats going on. I have an idea..lets just black out the screen and make a lot of noise. It just seems like a "PG-13- mode" moment. Why not have good action? Some people like stuff like that to distract from the tween love story with akward acting. This really was an average movie at best. At least for adults, I guess it makes sense since its aimed at 12 year olds, aw well .
I thought some of the changes, while detracting from the darkness and grittiness of the book, were necessary to not make the movie totally unacceptable for people in the 11-15 age range. Yes, as older viewers we would like some more realistic fighting, but unfortunately they can't just alienate their main market in order to show a bit more blood. The only change that I disliked was how they made it less clear that Peeta and Katniss's love was fake, although I'm unsure how they could show this without some internal monologues.
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the book is better than the movie since it gives more details and in the movie they skipped some parts but it's still worth watching, I really liked it. Now I just hope they make The second book in to a movie to.
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On March 25 2012 03:41 YoureFired wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 25 2012 03:08 Doomwish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 00:06 EAGER-beaver wrote:On March 24 2012 18:14 Doomwish wrote:
7/10 .
I would rate it higher but the abysmal action sequences with the shaky camera really disappointed me.
Why must directors get so lazy with fight scenes? Seems like very few directors in Hollywood actually go for wide shots with well choreographed fights.
Nope.. just gonna stick the camera 5 inches from the actors and shake it like crazy, yup...action folks EZPZ. Choreographed fight scenes! That's definitely what the book was missing and the movie should've remedied this with some jazzed up fight scenes a la matrix. Instead of bullet time, they can have arrow time, and rewrite chunks of the book for the movie to make it more believable, like 5 years of intense combat training instead of the 3 days the contestants are given in the book so we can watch some sweet kungfu and weapon combat scenes. Right , because a realistic action scenes dumbs down a movie....ugh. You totally missed my point..Did i say it should have kung-fu? There were clearly scenes in the book and the movie involving confrontation that could of been done much better. The shaky camera crap is just......bad. Small things like gritty realism in scenes such as these are what separate every other film from great films. It's basically like movie make-up. Hiding the fact that nothing resembling an actual fight is going on with a camera shot that makes it impossible to see whats going on. I have an idea..lets just black out the screen and make a lot of noise. It just seems like a "PG-13- mode" moment. Why not have good action? Some people like stuff like that to distract from the tween love story with akward acting. This really was an average movie at best. At least for adults, I guess it makes sense since its aimed at 12 year olds, aw well . I thought some of the changes, while detracting from the darkness and grittiness of the book, were necessary to not make the movie totally unacceptable for people in the 11-15 age range. Yes, as older viewers we would like some more realistic fighting, but unfortunately they can't just alienate their main market in order to show a bit more blood. The only change that I disliked was how they made it less clear that Peeta and Katniss's love was fake, although I'm unsure how they could show this without some internal monologues.
The actions scenes were pretty disappointing,+ Show Spoiler + granted it did seem to fit well in the opening fight scene at the big horn at the very start. But the final fight with the dogs, I would of loved some actually choreography instead of the 4 minutes of blurry camera motions.
The pacing of the movie was probably what I disliked the most, it seemed like the scenes were moving by to fast and that they were trying to fit in as much as possible. The best example would have been the cave scene. I the book they spend nearly a quarter of the book inside of that cave but they just seemed to skim right over it.
Overall I did enjoy, if there was no book to compare it to, I probably would have liked it more. but still I would encourage others to go see it.
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Did anyone else feel really dizzy after watching the movie?
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Felt like I had a headache after the movie if that is what you mean. And no, I dont usually get headaches.
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On March 25 2012 04:28 Crissaegrim wrote:
Felt like I had a headache after the movie if that is what you mean. And no, I dont usually get headaches.
Well dizziness, headaches and nausea are the side effects of this movie I guess, I never felt this effect from a movie. Not even from action movies, I blame the very close shots where the camera is bobbing all around, as if the camera guy was throwing the camera up and down.
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+ Show Spoiler +how did black guy know rue was hanging with katniss. he heard 2nd district guys killed her but how can he know katniss buried/helped her and stuff
not the best movie but it was better than my expectations
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On March 24 2012 16:58 Crissaegrim wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 14:25 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 24 2012 14:12 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 24 2012 12:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 24 2012 11:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So...this is essentially Battle Royale, but for teenagers, adapted into a movie for even younger teens? You're not even close to the first person to say that in this thread. As for Battle Royale, I think it's a film about senseless violence... violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it. It's a movie to pamper the spoiled and messed up who just want to watch people die. Hunger Games isn't senseless. I don't know if I will see the film in theatres anymore. There have been a few bad reviews in this thread. Battle Royale is about yanking your emotional chain around, to be blunt. It's about creating a vested interest in characters that you know are going to die, somehow making you hope that they beat the odds, and then slapping you back down. If it was just about people getting killed off, no one would care about it. Hunger Games...I honestly don't know much about it, but from what I've read/heard, it's essentially Battle Royale with the wish fulfillment of the kids actually standing a chance against the system, instead of having a completely false illusion of a chance. violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it Wow, you know, you can just keep saying that regardless of what anyone else says. If you think it is senseless, great but that is your opinion. If someone else finds meaning to it, who are you to say that it is false to that person? You make it seem as if you can answer and speak for everyone on a subjective topic like this.
I don't think we're made to care about whether or not the characters die because we only get 2 minutes of character development for each of them on average before they die. In the theatre people just laugh at the corny flashbacks and bad translations for a movie that seems to be trying to be serious. It's just a bad film.
This is of course my opinion, but you were allowed to state yours so don't give me that bs.
Battle Royale created a cult following for no special reason. It's a dumb movie for people to laugh at and then to pretend like has a meaning. A cult based on the idea of worshipping a tea set orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars would make just as much sense.
While Battle Royale is a film about a post-apocalyptic world, there isn't enough detail about how bad school children could possibly ruin the world enough to create a need for Battle Royale.
God. Everytime someone talks about BR seriously, I feel like I'm getting trolled.
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Enjoyed the movie a lot though the beginning felt rather draggy. Also minus the line where peeta said he watched Katniss go home after school everyday. the whole theater said "stalker" unanimously ._.
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I thought it was great. They could have shown a bit more in the action sequences but overall it was really good.
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Was with some friends and randomly went to a screening of this movie today. My expectations were low after seeing the god awful trailer on twitchTV commercials and reading that it was trying to hit home with a rather young audience. Even so, it was worse than I had feared. Some weird transitions between fast and slow pace coupled with what seemed like trying to fit in too many scenes covering for instance the background of the main character and her family made it a mess to follow. I suspect the action scenes were edited the way they were so as to keep it within what's acceptable for the target audience - as an older viewer it was rather disappointing and dull.
The ending was abrupt and left a lot to be desired, and overall it felt like nothing had changed over the course of the movie, which is never a good thing. A polished but dull movie which brought nothing new with it.
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On March 25 2012 05:43 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 16:58 Crissaegrim wrote:On March 24 2012 14:25 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 24 2012 14:12 WolfintheSheep wrote:On March 24 2012 12:17 obesechicken13 wrote:On March 24 2012 11:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So...this is essentially Battle Royale, but for teenagers, adapted into a movie for even younger teens? You're not even close to the first person to say that in this thread. As for Battle Royale, I think it's a film about senseless violence... violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it. It's a movie to pamper the spoiled and messed up who just want to watch people die. Hunger Games isn't senseless. I don't know if I will see the film in theatres anymore. There have been a few bad reviews in this thread. Battle Royale is about yanking your emotional chain around, to be blunt. It's about creating a vested interest in characters that you know are going to die, somehow making you hope that they beat the odds, and then slapping you back down. If it was just about people getting killed off, no one would care about it. Hunger Games...I honestly don't know much about it, but from what I've read/heard, it's essentially Battle Royale with the wish fulfillment of the kids actually standing a chance against the system, instead of having a completely false illusion of a chance. violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it Wow, you know, you can just keep saying that regardless of what anyone else says. If you think it is senseless, great but that is your opinion. If someone else finds meaning to it, who are you to say that it is false to that person? You make it seem as if you can answer and speak for everyone on a subjective topic like this. I don't think we're made to care about whether or not the characters die because we only get 2 minutes of character development for each of them on average before they die. In the theatre people just laugh at the corny flashbacks and bad translations for a movie that seems to be trying to be serious. It's just a bad film. This is of course my opinion, but you were allowed to state yours so don't give me that bs. Battle Royale created a cult following for no special reason. It's a dumb movie for people to laugh at and then to pretend like has a meaning. A cult based on the idea of worshipping a tea set orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars would make just as much sense. While Battle Royale is a film about a post-apocalyptic world, there isn't enough detail about how bad school children could possibly ruin the world enough to create a need for Battle Royale. God. Everytime someone talks about BR seriously, I feel like I'm getting trolled.
The only thing I'm saying is that your bolded quote preemptively places every other persons opinion in disregard already without even stopping to consider it. It comes across as very haughty and condescending when taken out of context.
Now I watched BR quite a while ago and cannot recall the exact scenes and such and I have no qualms about you finding it senseless. Just don't speak for everyone else.
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On March 25 2012 05:43 obesechicken13 wrote:
Hunger Games isn't senseless.
God. Everytime someone talks about BR seriously, I feel like I'm getting trolled.
Hunger Games isn't senseless while Battle Royale is?
Sorry, but I don't see how.
Haven't seen the BR movie tho, only red the novel. Witch was anything but senseless.
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On March 25 2012 00:59 Lyter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 14:57 R!! wrote:
I found the movie disgustingly retarded, the participants reactions never made any sense on so many levels,I mean, most of them acted like complete psychopaths and yet they created a hunting group!? This isn't Big Brother, you aren't supposed to be friends with people you are gonna eventually have to kill, there's absolutely nothing to gain from it, unless you don't intend to kill anyone, which obviously wasn't the case for Cato and the others.Why did they act throughout the whole thing like it was something acceptable and normal to participate in that shit in the first place?Another thing, wtf were those magically created dogs, suspension of disbelief went to hell so many times it's ridiculous, people don't act like that.But still, worth watching because Jennifer Lawrence was simply put divine. What? Shit dude you should really think before you write retarded crap. Of course people are going to ally, if you're part of a group that increases your chances at surviving until later and they cover your weaknesses. Not to mention there will be one person in that arena that you know prior to going because they are from your district. AND you have two weeks prior to the event where you are in contact with all the other participants on a daily basis. There are also the 'career' tributes which year in year out team up initially. 'Why did they act throughout the whole thing like it was something acceptable and normal to participate in that shit in the first place?' Because it has been going on for like 80 years in a post-apocalyptic world maybe? If it has been around since long before you were born, you don't really question it. Every year you watch it on TV. Of course the people know it sucks, but thats the point, it is a method of creating a sense of fear of the Capitol in the minds of District people. 'Another thing, wtf were those magically created dogs, suspension of disbelief went to hell so many times it's ridiculous, people don't act like that.' They are genetically engineered purely for the purpose of the arena to again, remind the people in the districts that Capitol can do whatever the fuck it wants. You seem to miss a MASSIVE amount of understanding about what it is. The Hunger Games is a TV show, it is their to ENTERTAIN. You want people to watch it, if nothing is happening in the arena, then bam fireballs or mutant dogs or w/e to spice shit up. "Retarded crap", pfft, this movie built up so much suspense that I knew Kato would be the last one standing as soon as Rue died, and that Katniss wouldn't even think of killing anyone other than for self-defence, they would always do something to prevent her from making tough decisions, boo-hoo, what a mind-breaking movie, I must have missed a ton of "understanding" since every single scene looked as obvious as it gets.Also, there was no such thing as a daily basis, the movie didn't even attempt to give an idea that a decent amount of time had passed, if everything is gonna happen in half a weekend, you don't make friends, especially with psycopath people, and that's what precisely that entire Kato group looked like during the entire movie.Also, The Capitol doesn't need to instill fear in coal miners and people that hunt squirrels for a living if they can create mutant dogs, fireballs and potentially dragons from thin air, sorry.But, I'm glad you read the books : )).
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On March 25 2012 05:57 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 05:43 obesechicken13 wrote:
Hunger Games isn't senseless.
God. Everytime someone talks about BR seriously, I feel like I'm getting trolled. Hunger Games isn't senseless while Battle Royale is? Sorry, but I don't see how. Haven't seen the BR movie tho, only red the novel. Witch was anything but senseless.
Ah I haven't read BR.
The correct spelling is "read" and the correct homophone is "which".
On March 25 2012 06:13 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 00:59 Lyter wrote:On March 24 2012 14:57 R!! wrote:
I found the movie disgustingly retarded, the participants reactions never made any sense on so many levels,I mean, most of them acted like complete psychopaths and yet they created a hunting group!? This isn't Big Brother, you aren't supposed to be friends with people you are gonna eventually have to kill, there's absolutely nothing to gain from it, unless you don't intend to kill anyone, which obviously wasn't the case for Cato and the others.Why did they act throughout the whole thing like it was something acceptable and normal to participate in that shit in the first place?Another thing, wtf were those magically created dogs, suspension of disbelief went to hell so many times it's ridiculous, people don't act like that.But still, worth watching because Jennifer Lawrence was simply put divine. What? Shit dude you should really think before you write retarded crap. Of course people are going to ally, if you're part of a group that increases your chances at surviving until later and they cover your weaknesses. Not to mention there will be one person in that arena that you know prior to going because they are from your district. AND you have two weeks prior to the event where you are in contact with all the other participants on a daily basis. There are also the 'career' tributes which year in year out team up initially. 'Why did they act throughout the whole thing like it was something acceptable and normal to participate in that shit in the first place?' Because it has been going on for like 80 years in a post-apocalyptic world maybe? If it has been around since long before you were born, you don't really question it. Every year you watch it on TV. Of course the people know it sucks, but thats the point, it is a method of creating a sense of fear of the Capitol in the minds of District people. 'Another thing, wtf were those magically created dogs, suspension of disbelief went to hell so many times it's ridiculous, people don't act like that.' They are genetically engineered purely for the purpose of the arena to again, remind the people in the districts that Capitol can do whatever the fuck it wants. You seem to miss a MASSIVE amount of understanding about what it is. The Hunger Games is a TV show, it is their to ENTERTAIN. You want people to watch it, if nothing is happening in the arena, then bam fireballs or mutant dogs or w/e to spice shit up. Katniss wouldn't even think of killing anyone other than for self-defence, they would always do something to prevent her from making tough decisions
Aww that sucks. In the book when Peeta is getting out his knife to throw it away Katniss draws her bow and points it at him to kill him first. You get to see more into her mind. They really took that out of the movie?
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