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MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 08:05:09
March 24 2012 07:07 GMT
#181
Saw the movie. Thought it was great.

Read the entire 2nd book of the trilogy afterwards in 1 sitting.

The books are pretty good.

Yes they obviously have to tone down the amount of blood/violence shown in a PG13 movie.

They give u a clear sense of whats going on tho.

In the same way the Dark Knight was PG13 but u know that Joker is torturing people and doing some R rated shit...

The same goes for this movie.

You see child screaming, you see another child with a bloodied weapon standing over them/swinging the weapon but it cuts away be4 the blood starts shooting everywhere.

I didnt think it was toned down too bad. Still gave a good amount of violence for PG13

Also comparing it to Twilight= u obviously havent read the books or seen the movie, you are just sounding Dumb by doing so.

The movie was really suspensful and REALLY intense for being Pg13. Ya with an R Rating they could have shown a lot more of the violence/blood, but you still get that gruesome/sick feeling you would expect when you see one kid hacking a smaller kid into pieces... u just dont see the actual act.


The books are OBVIOUSLY better than the movie... but thats the case in EVERY book-to-film case. One has 4-5 of reading vs 2 hours of screentime, some shit gets cut/changed to fit.

But really the books are quite good, and the movie stayed pretty damn close to the book imo.

Hunger Games Defined:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ill try to make this quick/accurate.

Basically this is a world where there was a major disaster. Mass chaos/ loss of governments/diminishing population...blahblah blah.

Now A new government has taken over. "The Capitol" Run by a dictator who calls himself President Snow.

Their is The Capitol, which is essientially the bourgeois class
Seperate from the Capitol there are 13 "Districts" or colonies.

The colonies function solely to provide The Capitol with its necessary supplies.

Each Colony has a resource/commodity that their sole purpose is to provide to the Capitol.

For instance Some of the Districts are:
Coal Mining
Precious Metals
Jewel Mining
Electric Devices
Lumber
Textile
Food

The cheaper the commodity or good... the pooror the district is.
The outer-lying districts are the poorest, where people barely scrape by enough to survive. Living in poverty etc. (like no electricity/water/food)


80 (ish) Years ago, District 13 Rallied all of the districts to start a revolution against the governement of the Capitol.

After years of war, they were defeated.

Now every year the Capitol holds "The Hunger Games" as a part of their treaty with the districts, basically saying, Every year every district will sacrifice two children to show that the Revolution was wrong. But they allow a Lone survivor to be declared Victor. And the Victor becomes wealthy.

Basically the games are the Districts acknowledgements that the Capitol is in control.

Every year 24 Contestants are selected. Two from every district, one male and one female. Every male/female has their name entered into the bowl, once ever year from the ages of 12-18 and the entries carry over until you are 19. (so a 12 yr old has 1 piece of paper in the bowl, someone who is 18 has 8) And Also, they allow poor people, to put their name in the bowl multiple times for things like more food rations. (One example is the main characters friend Gale. He has 3 siblings, and no father. He has his name in the bowl 42 times, when he is 18. 7, because one for each year he is elligible. And the rest because he needed food for his family to survive. (these also carry over = if u got extra rations and entered ur name in the bowl, it gets added every year)

There are only 12 districts, because District 13 was destroyed as a show of power from the Capitol.


Basically the games= u sacrifice ur children because you tried to revolt. But we let one of them live, so as to give the competitors and the districts some very miniscule amount of hope.
Because if there was no hope of surviving...why would they be interested in killing eachother... And The Capitol doesnt just execute 24 kids a year because they do not want a revolt.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
March 24 2012 07:20 GMT
#182
On March 24 2012 16:07 MaestroSC wrote:
Saw the movie. Thought it was great.

Read the entire 2nd book of the trilogy afterwards in 1 sitting.

The books are pretty good.

Yes they obviously have to tone down the amount of blood/violence shown in a PG13 movie.

They give u a clear sense of whats going on tho.

In the same way the Dark Knight was PG13 but u know that Joker is torturing people and doing some R rated shit...

The same goes for this movie.

You see child screaming, you see another child with a bloodied weapon standing over them/swinging the weapon but it cuts away be4 the blood starts shooting everywhere.

I didnt think it was toned down too bad. Still gave a good amount of violence for PG13

Also comparing it to Twilight= u obviously havent read the books or seen the movie, you are just sounding Dumb by doing so.

The movie was really suspensful and REALLY intense for being Pg13. Ya with an R Rating they could have shown a lot more of the violence/blood, but you still get that gruesome/sick feeling you would expect when you see one kid hacking a smaller kid into pieces... u just dont see the actual act.


The books are OBVIOUSLY better than the movie... but thats the case in EVERY book-to-film case. One has 4-5 of reading vs 2 hours of screentime, some shit gets cut/changed to fit.

But really the books are quite good, and the movie stayed pretty damn close to the book imo.


Movie spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think I just went into the movie with different expectations, but there were soo many flaws with it. I have no idea how the book was intended to be perceived, but the whole hunger games scenario is a perfect situation for character development. I was expecting the characters to change and encounter their dark side and face it NONE OF WHICH HAPPENED to ANY of the main characters. Literally the characters went through the entire hunger games ( the main characters) unchanged and the only thing that developed was their romance. Ignoring all of the plot holes in the movie like Why they grouped up knowing they would kill each other (they actually slept near each other wtf?). Also the death of that little black girl was simply plot device used to get little girls teary eyed, but thats about it. Everytime i expected the main characters to turn on each other some random plot device would be used to excuse them from it, which ruined the whole point of the games to begin with. I really thought the build up to the games was ok, and then the moment I knew the audience it was catering to I pretty much knew exactly how it was going to end.

Question.?
husniack
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
203 Posts
March 24 2012 07:29 GMT
#183
On March 24 2012 16:20 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:07 MaestroSC wrote:
Saw the movie. Thought it was great.

Read the entire 2nd book of the trilogy afterwards in 1 sitting.

The books are pretty good.

Yes they obviously have to tone down the amount of blood/violence shown in a PG13 movie.

They give u a clear sense of whats going on tho.

In the same way the Dark Knight was PG13 but u know that Joker is torturing people and doing some R rated shit...

The same goes for this movie.

You see child screaming, you see another child with a bloodied weapon standing over them/swinging the weapon but it cuts away be4 the blood starts shooting everywhere.

I didnt think it was toned down too bad. Still gave a good amount of violence for PG13

Also comparing it to Twilight= u obviously havent read the books or seen the movie, you are just sounding Dumb by doing so.

The movie was really suspensful and REALLY intense for being Pg13. Ya with an R Rating they could have shown a lot more of the violence/blood, but you still get that gruesome/sick feeling you would expect when you see one kid hacking a smaller kid into pieces... u just dont see the actual act.


The books are OBVIOUSLY better than the movie... but thats the case in EVERY book-to-film case. One has 4-5 of reading vs 2 hours of screentime, some shit gets cut/changed to fit.

But really the books are quite good, and the movie stayed pretty damn close to the book imo.


Movie spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think I just went into the movie with different expectations, but there were soo many flaws with it. I have no idea how the book was intended to be perceived, but the whole hunger games scenario is a perfect situation for character development. I was expecting the characters to change and encounter their dark side and face it NONE OF WHICH HAPPENED to ANY of the main characters. Literally the characters went through the entire hunger games ( the main characters) unchanged and the only thing that developed was their romance. Ignoring all of the plot holes in the movie like Why they grouped up knowing they would kill each other (they actually slept near each other wtf?). Also the death of that little black girl was simply plot device used to get little girls teary eyed, but thats about it. Everytime i expected the main characters to turn on each other some random plot device would be used to excuse them from it, which ruined the whole point of the games to begin with. I really thought the build up to the games was ok, and then the moment I knew the audience it was catering to I pretty much knew exactly how it was going to end.



It was pretty accurate to the book.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 07:37:27
March 24 2012 07:32 GMT
#184
On March 24 2012 16:20 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:07 MaestroSC wrote:
Saw the movie. Thought it was great.

Read the entire 2nd book of the trilogy afterwards in 1 sitting.

The books are pretty good.

Yes they obviously have to tone down the amount of blood/violence shown in a PG13 movie.

They give u a clear sense of whats going on tho.

In the same way the Dark Knight was PG13 but u know that Joker is torturing people and doing some R rated shit...

The same goes for this movie.

You see child screaming, you see another child with a bloodied weapon standing over them/swinging the weapon but it cuts away be4 the blood starts shooting everywhere.

I didnt think it was toned down too bad. Still gave a good amount of violence for PG13

Also comparing it to Twilight= u obviously havent read the books or seen the movie, you are just sounding Dumb by doing so.

The movie was really suspensful and REALLY intense for being Pg13. Ya with an R Rating they could have shown a lot more of the violence/blood, but you still get that gruesome/sick feeling you would expect when you see one kid hacking a smaller kid into pieces... u just dont see the actual act.


The books are OBVIOUSLY better than the movie... but thats the case in EVERY book-to-film case. One has 4-5 of reading vs 2 hours of screentime, some shit gets cut/changed to fit.

But really the books are quite good, and the movie stayed pretty damn close to the book imo.


Movie spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think I just went into the movie with different expectations, but there were soo many flaws with it. I have no idea how the book was intended to be perceived, but the whole hunger games scenario is a perfect situation for character development. I was expecting the characters to change and encounter their dark side and face it NONE OF WHICH HAPPENED to ANY of the main characters. Literally the characters went through the entire hunger games ( the main characters) unchanged and the only thing that developed was their romance. Ignoring all of the plot holes in the movie like Why they grouped up knowing they would kill each other (they actually slept near each other wtf?). Also the death of that little black girl was simply plot device used to get little girls teary eyed, but thats about it. Everytime i expected the main characters to turn on each other some random plot device would be used to excuse them from it, which ruined the whole point of the games to begin with. I really thought the build up to the games was ok, and then the moment I knew the audience it was catering to I pretty much knew exactly how it was going to end.




+ Show Spoiler +
Read the books. It goes into their psychology a LOT more. The conflictions of teaming up and so forth. I dont agree with most of ur post, but all I can really suggest is read the book? Lol idk I think you misunderstood/inerpreted everything more shallow than it can be, simply because you expected it to be.

I dont know how you wouldnt understanding people making alliances and such...
Ur chances of 1v23 are really low.
4v19 is a LOT better.
And so on... they understand that they are going to kill eachother... but who cares if they dont make it past the "round of 24" so to say...
The book touches on this part of the game a LOT more intensely and just flat out better
Chances of winning 6v 18 completely lone non-teamed up people is a LOT better than winning a 24 man free for all
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 24 2012 07:34 GMT
#185
IMO people are going in to see it, just to come out and say "hollywood garbage" "caitors to pre-teen romance" blahblahblah but honestly, if you go into it like that, your trying so hard to have it be exactly how u anticipated it... then that is how it will be interpreted by you....

If you go in already decided what you think of it... i dont understand why ur surprised it is what ur told urseelf it was be4 u saw it...
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 07:40:55
March 24 2012 07:38 GMT
#186
On March 24 2012 16:20 biology]major wrote:
Movie spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think I just went into the movie with different expectations, but there were soo many flaws with it. I have no idea how the book was intended to be perceived, but the whole hunger games scenario is a perfect situation for character development. I was expecting the characters to change and encounter their dark side and face it NONE OF WHICH HAPPENED to ANY of the main characters. Literally the characters went through the entire hunger games ( the main characters) unchanged and the only thing that developed was their romance. Ignoring all of the plot holes in the movie like Why they grouped up knowing they would kill each other (they actually slept near each other wtf?). Also the death of that little black girl was simply plot device used to get little girls teary eyed, but thats about it. Everytime i expected the main characters to turn on each other some random plot device would be used to excuse them from it, which ruined the whole point of the games to begin with. I really thought the build up to the games was ok, and then the moment I knew the audience it was catering to I pretty much knew exactly how it was going to end.



Answer to above spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
To answer the simpler question first, the pack of tributes go together because that is the way that those districts do it. I don't want to spoil much but + Show Spoiler +
It gets into the roles of the mentors a bit more in the second book, and you see just how the mentors work together and how things go.
Also consider the fact that your odds of survival increase with more of you, and if you're picking people you're going to have to work with, why would you not pick the strongest, fastest, ect. After all they might just have an unfortunate accident while you're out finishing the rest of the people off.

For the next easiest question, Rue dying was big, especially for the main character. I haven't seen how they do it in the movie, but repeatedly during the games Katniss accidentally refers to Rue as Prim (her sister). It also is the point at which she understands what Petre was talking about when they were on the roof together, and where she decides to play the rest of the games according to her rules (not the dark side that you're desperately looking for).

And finally to answer why she and Petre never encountered their dark side is because neither one ever got wrapped up in the games. Petre went there to die for Katniss and Katniss worked so hard to keep him alive that there was no way she was going to kill him in the end. They went against the grain and instead of getting darker, the book reverses this process and takes Kat from the unfeeling emotionless girl that goes into the games to a girl trying to protect her soul from being lost to the games.


I hope that helps.

EDIT: Ninja'd lol. Basically like it was said, if you want more depth/detail go read the books. It goes into pretty much everything you were wondering about in your post.
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 07:54:19
March 24 2012 07:43 GMT
#187
i liked the movie.

i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.

i agree with there being 0 character development. the characters never changed at all(except for radical changes that had no consequences lol). the undertones of the ending were nice though.

+ Show Spoiler +
the thing with kato(?) was so dumb to lol "ill do this to get more honor for my district, that's all i know" then dies. i was like "ok...that was really out of nowhere/unexpected all of a sudden". i thought that was AWFUL.

the ending with the guy being poisoned and then it all going back to "nothing has changed" both feels genius and like it was a huge cop-out. on one hand it feels like "none of that mattered at all" which is great cause it feels like they planned to have control the whole time. on the other hand it feels like you just wasted the whole time watching this movie.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#188
On March 24 2012 16:38 leloup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:20 biology]major wrote:
Movie spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think I just went into the movie with different expectations, but there were soo many flaws with it. I have no idea how the book was intended to be perceived, but the whole hunger games scenario is a perfect situation for character development. I was expecting the characters to change and encounter their dark side and face it NONE OF WHICH HAPPENED to ANY of the main characters. Literally the characters went through the entire hunger games ( the main characters) unchanged and the only thing that developed was their romance. Ignoring all of the plot holes in the movie like Why they grouped up knowing they would kill each other (they actually slept near each other wtf?). Also the death of that little black girl was simply plot device used to get little girls teary eyed, but thats about it. Everytime i expected the main characters to turn on each other some random plot device would be used to excuse them from it, which ruined the whole point of the games to begin with. I really thought the build up to the games was ok, and then the moment I knew the audience it was catering to I pretty much knew exactly how it was going to end.



Answer to above spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
To answer the simpler question first, the pack of tributes go together because that is the way that those districts do it. I don't want to spoil much but + Show Spoiler +
It gets into the roles of the mentors a bit more in the second book, and you see just how the mentors work together and how things go.
Also consider the fact that your odds of survival increase with more of you, and if you're picking people you're going to have to work with, why would you not pick the strongest, fastest, ect. After all they might just have an unfortunate accident while you're out finishing the rest of the people off.

For the next easiest question, Rue dying was big, especially for the main character. I haven't seen how they do it in the movie, but repeatedly during the games Katniss accidentally refers to Rue as Prim (her sister). It also is the point at which she understands what Petre was talking about when they were on the roof together, and where she decides to play the rest of the games according to her rules (not the dark side that you're desperately looking for).

And finally to answer why she and Petre never encountered their dark side is because neither one ever got wrapped up in the games. Petre went there to die for Katniss and Katniss worked so hard to keep him alive that there was no way she was going to kill him in the end. They went against the grain and instead of getting darker, the book reverses this process and takes Kat from the unfeeling emotionless girl that goes into the games to a girl trying to protect her soul from being lost to the games.


I hope that helps.

EDIT: Ninja'd lol. Basically like it was said, if you want more depth/detail go read the books. It goes into pretty much everything you were wondering about in your post.



Seriously... read this guys' response If you dont understand/thought it was shallow.

People are simply not understanding some of the complexities of the movie... because "omg its pg and for children" garbage... and then fail to miss completly HUGE parts of the story

So sick of reading people who didnt understand... complaining it wasnt complex... when the simple ideas went soaring completely over their heads because they expected it to be simple.... even tho they then complain it was simple....

Baffled by the poor reviews of this movie.

The books are 10x Better (name ONE case of this ever not being true...? If you have ever read a book and seen the movie... the book is always 10x better because it has 10x more content...)
Arcanum
Profile Joined January 2012
Philippines50 Posts
March 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#189
just finished watching it earlier.. The movie was great although I don't like some cheesy romance stuff >.>
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 24 2012 07:46 GMT
#190
On March 24 2012 16:43 Talack wrote:i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.


It was supposed to be. This kind of stuff is making me wonder if the movie didn't do a good job showcasing it, or if people just didn't bother to pay attention to the movie.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
March 24 2012 07:48 GMT
#191
liked the movie as a whole, felt that the casting just didn't really vibe, not sure what it was about them.
The universe created an audience for itself.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 24 2012 07:49 GMT
#192
On March 24 2012 16:43 Talack wrote:
i liked the movie.

i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.

i agree with there being 0 character development. the characters never changed at all(except for radical changes that had no consequences lol). the undertones of the ending were nice though.


+ Show Spoiler +
U realize the "romance" was simply a marketing tool that the contestants were using to make themselves more likable and sympathetic as to draw more support from sponsors? And to get people cheering for them so the gamemasters wouldnt kill them off? They were making themselves more appealing and relatable to the people/sponsors watching. Protip: it was awkward because the girl had 0 romantic feelings for the boy.. she was simply showing that she had them just to try to help survive... The characters did change also... Katniss goes into the game with the "lonewolf" strategy. Get home at all costs. When she does the whole shpeal regarding Rue, who she sees as a reminder of her sister Prim.. we see her shift from getting home at all costs and hating all of her competitors to a "this is a 12 yr old girl... not an enemy i should kill/abandon"
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 24 2012 07:50 GMT
#193
On March 24 2012 16:46 leloup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:43 Talack wrote:i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.


It was supposed to be. This kind of stuff is making me wonder if the movie didn't do a good job showcasing it, or if people just didn't bother to pay attention to the movie.



OMG thank you. Seriously "its a childrens movie!" followed by complaining about simple plot concepts being completely ignored... i dont know what these movie critics want... they call it simple yet miss the ideas already present... and then complain that it wasnt complex enough...
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
March 24 2012 07:53 GMT
#194
I saw it yesterday. As a book reader, I actually felt it was better than the book.

It improved on a lot of areas, dropped the ball on a few others, but overall, it was better imo.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 24 2012 07:55 GMT
#195
On March 24 2012 16:50 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:46 leloup wrote:
On March 24 2012 16:43 Talack wrote:i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.


It was supposed to be. This kind of stuff is making me wonder if the movie didn't do a good job showcasing it, or if people just didn't bother to pay attention to the movie.



OMG thank you. Seriously "its a childrens movie!" followed by complaining about simple plot concepts being completely ignored... i dont know what these movie critics want... they call it simple yet miss the ideas already present... and then complain that it wasnt complex enough...


I've always considered movie critics to be the non working bulbs in the light strings of society. Really sometimes reading reviews by them is just sad, because you wonder how they even became movie critics in the first place. Although to be fair the only real movie review site I use because of this is Rotten Tomatoes.
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Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 08:03:51
March 24 2012 07:58 GMT
#196
On March 24 2012 14:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
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On March 24 2012 14:12 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On March 24 2012 12:17 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 24 2012 11:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So...this is essentially Battle Royale, but for teenagers, adapted into a movie for even younger teens?

You're not even close to the first person to say that in this thread. As for Battle Royale, I think it's a film about senseless violence... violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it. It's a movie to pamper the spoiled and messed up who just want to watch people die.

Hunger Games isn't senseless.

I don't know if I will see the film in theatres anymore. There have been a few bad reviews in this thread.

Battle Royale is about yanking your emotional chain around, to be blunt. It's about creating a vested interest in characters that you know are going to die, somehow making you hope that they beat the odds, and then slapping you back down. If it was just about people getting killed off, no one would care about it.

Hunger Games...I honestly don't know much about it, but from what I've read/heard, it's essentially Battle Royale with the wish fulfillment of the kids actually standing a chance against the system, instead of having a completely false illusion of a chance.

violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it


Wow, you know, you can just keep saying that regardless of what anyone else says. If you think it is senseless, great but that is your opinion. If someone else finds meaning to it, who are you to say that it is false to that person? You make it seem as if you can answer and speak for everyone on a subjective topic like this.

On March 24 2012 16:49 MaestroSC wrote:
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On March 24 2012 16:43 Talack wrote:
i liked the movie.

i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.

i agree with there being 0 character development. the characters never changed at all(except for radical changes that had no consequences lol). the undertones of the ending were nice though.


+ Show Spoiler +
U realize the "romance" was simply a marketing tool that the contestants were using to make themselves more likable and sympathetic as to draw more support from sponsors? And to get people cheering for them so the gamemasters wouldnt kill them off? They were making themselves more appealing and relatable to the people/sponsors watching. Protip: it was awkward because the girl had 0 romantic feelings for the boy.. she was simply showing that she had them just to try to help survive... The characters did change also... Katniss goes into the game with the "lonewolf" strategy. Get home at all costs. When she does the whole shpeal regarding Rue, who she sees as a reminder of her sister Prim.. we see her shift from getting home at all costs and hating all of her competitors to a "this is a 12 yr old girl... not an enemy i should kill/abandon"


Well these ideas were significant parts in the book that was not very well translated in the movie. They should have made it more overt.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#197
On March 24 2012 16:55 leloup wrote:
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On March 24 2012 16:50 MaestroSC wrote:
On March 24 2012 16:46 leloup wrote:
On March 24 2012 16:43 Talack wrote:i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.


It was supposed to be. This kind of stuff is making me wonder if the movie didn't do a good job showcasing it, or if people just didn't bother to pay attention to the movie.



OMG thank you. Seriously "its a childrens movie!" followed by complaining about simple plot concepts being completely ignored... i dont know what these movie critics want... they call it simple yet miss the ideas already present... and then complain that it wasnt complex enough...


I've always considered movie critics to be the non working bulbs in the light strings of society. Really sometimes reading reviews by them is just sad, because you wonder how they even became movie critics in the first place. Although to be fair the only real movie review site I use because of this is Rotten Tomatoes.


Lol i agree... I have completely lost all respect for any critic/review site.

Movie/Book/Music Critics = selfrighteous Dbags who could never do anything in their life worth sharing/boasting about so instead they spend their time trying to tell other people what they did wrong in an attempt to feel superior... "The harry potter books are bad" tell that to JK Rowlings bank account and her status as the #1 selling author of all time...

people just baffle me..
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 08:13:28
March 24 2012 08:08 GMT
#198
On March 24 2012 16:58 Crissaegrim wrote:
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On March 24 2012 14:25 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:12 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On March 24 2012 12:17 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 24 2012 11:02 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So...this is essentially Battle Royale, but for teenagers, adapted into a movie for even younger teens?

You're not even close to the first person to say that in this thread. As for Battle Royale, I think it's a film about senseless violence... violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it. It's a movie to pamper the spoiled and messed up who just want to watch people die.

Hunger Games isn't senseless.

I don't know if I will see the film in theatres anymore. There have been a few bad reviews in this thread.

Battle Royale is about yanking your emotional chain around, to be blunt. It's about creating a vested interest in characters that you know are going to die, somehow making you hope that they beat the odds, and then slapping you back down. If it was just about people getting killed off, no one would care about it.

Hunger Games...I honestly don't know much about it, but from what I've read/heard, it's essentially Battle Royale with the wish fulfillment of the kids actually standing a chance against the system, instead of having a completely false illusion of a chance.

violence so senseless in fact that people see things in it that aren't even there in attempts to make sense of it


Wow, you know, you can just keep saying that regardless of what anyone else says. If you think it is senseless, great but that is your opinion. If someone else finds meaning to it, who are you to say that it is false to that person? You make it seem as if you can answer and speak for everyone on a subjective topic like this.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:49 MaestroSC wrote:
On March 24 2012 16:43 Talack wrote:
i liked the movie.

i felt the romance was forced really really hard. Maybe that was the point but it just felt incredibly awkward. like really really awkward.

i agree with there being 0 character development. the characters never changed at all(except for radical changes that had no consequences lol). the undertones of the ending were nice though.


+ Show Spoiler +
U realize the "romance" was simply a marketing tool that the contestants were using to make themselves more likable and sympathetic as to draw more support from sponsors? And to get people cheering for them so the gamemasters wouldnt kill them off? They were making themselves more appealing and relatable to the people/sponsors watching. Protip: it was awkward because the girl had 0 romantic feelings for the boy.. she was simply showing that she had them just to try to help survive... The characters did change also... Katniss goes into the game with the "lonewolf" strategy. Get home at all costs. When she does the whole shpeal regarding Rue, who she sees as a reminder of her sister Prim.. we see her shift from getting home at all costs and hating all of her competitors to a "this is a 12 yr old girl... not an enemy i should kill/abandon"


Well these ideas were significant parts in the book that was not very well translated in the movie. They should have made it more overt.


+ Show Spoiler +
Well when the boy says it and walks offstage and the girl is choking him out... their mentor clearly says "Hey he is making u both more marketable. You need sponsors to survive."
And then at the end "You need to convince them you are in love, and that ur attempting to commit suicide was an act of love for Peeta and not an act of defiance against the game and the capitols control "


I feel like my thoughts are well stated at this point and I am eaiting up space in this thread

But i just wanna make a final plea to every one.... Dont be derailed by other peoples' opinions. Dont bother seeing it if you are going in with a closed mind. Either way you won't enjoy it.

If you truely watch it and look for the complexities, they are there if you acknowledge them
Yes its not as bloody as it could be if it was Rated R, but there is still PLENTY of suspense and action.

If you think its shallow, because you dont understand it, try reading the books. They are pretty damn good and will help u understand some complex ideas that people are clearly missing without reading the books/paying close enough attention.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 24 2012 08:20 GMT
#199
Lol i agree... I have completely lost all respect for any critic/review site.

Movie/Book/Music Critics = selfrighteous Dbags who could never do anything in their life worth sharing/boasting about so instead they spend their time trying to tell other people what they did wrong in an attempt to feel superior... "The harry potter books are bad" tell that to JK Rowlings bank account and her status as the #1 selling author of all time...

people just baffle me...


You have no idea how much is wrong with your statements here haha.

By that logic twilight is actually a golden masterpiece and the author belongs up there with the greats like edgar alen poe and hemingway.

Whether you agree or disagree with critics there are quite a few of them that are incredibly intelligent/passionate that have accomplished far more than you would give them credit for.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 08:28:39
March 24 2012 08:27 GMT
#200
On March 24 2012 17:20 Talack wrote:
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Lol i agree... I have completely lost all respect for any critic/review site.

Movie/Book/Music Critics = selfrighteous Dbags who could never do anything in their life worth sharing/boasting about so instead they spend their time trying to tell other people what they did wrong in an attempt to feel superior... "The harry potter books are bad" tell that to JK Rowlings bank account and her status as the #1 selling author of all time...

people just baffle me...


You have no idea how much is wrong with your statements here haha.

By that logic twilight is actually a golden masterpiece and the author belongs up there with the greats like edgar alen poe and hemingway.

Whether you agree or disagree with critics there are quite a few of them that are incredibly intelligent/passionate that have accomplished far more than you would give them credit for.


Saying Twilight is bad is the same as saying Star Wars is bad.

Your single oppinion is not > the opinion of the majority.
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