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Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
February 24 2013 06:52 GMT
#4421
On February 24 2013 10:41 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 07:50 Irrelevant Label wrote:
My faith in them turning Jaime around and managing to make him like his book incarnation just became non-zero when I noticed that it cuts to him looking beaten, dirty and screaming on the "when you put a sword in his hand" line. If they are intentionally hinting at the inverse as it looks like than good times ahead for Jaime's character in the show.


It's being ironic, because a sword was put into his hand........and came out the other side

EDIT: Misread what you said, confused when you said "non-zero"


It is the best touch in the trailer I think. The chess move at the very end is the other great foreshadow. The Robb one is too obvious. I don't think you need to know what is going to happen already to pick up when the shot switches to a clear shot of a single person when the the monologue is saying people will die.

The cut to Cersei on the losing what they love line is interesting. I wouldn't think the purple wedding is going to make it into season 3. Maybe the two seasons ahead hint as well as just being direct with who Cat was talking about was enough to make it their shot choice regardless. Maybe the show will play up the fall of her and Jaime's relationship stronger/earlier than the books.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 24 2013 07:11 GMT
#4422
On February 24 2013 15:52 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 10:41 Dakkas wrote:
On February 24 2013 07:50 Irrelevant Label wrote:
My faith in them turning Jaime around and managing to make him like his book incarnation just became non-zero when I noticed that it cuts to him looking beaten, dirty and screaming on the "when you put a sword in his hand" line. If they are intentionally hinting at the inverse as it looks like than good times ahead for Jaime's character in the show.


It's being ironic, because a sword was put into his hand........and came out the other side

EDIT: Misread what you said, confused when you said "non-zero"


It is the best touch in the trailer I think. The chess move at the very end is the other great foreshadow. The Robb one is too obvious. I don't think you need to know what is going to happen already to pick up when the shot switches to a clear shot of a single person when the the monologue is saying people will die.

The cut to Cersei on the losing what they love line is interesting. I wouldn't think the purple wedding is going to make it into season 3. Maybe the two seasons ahead hint as well as just being direct with who Cat was talking about was enough to make it their shot choice regardless. Maybe the show will play up the fall of her and Jaime's relationship stronger/earlier than the books.

Haha yeah, the chess thing was awesome. Moreover, I didn't know people were calling it the PURPLE WEDDING, lol.

I remember hearing/seeing Peter Dinklage say he doesn't read the books and whatnot. So he might be surprised when his name becomes YOLO and he has to do really embarrassing/undignified stuff. Wonder if he'll be cool with it.

Moreovoermovoerover, who was the tall guy that was going to kill what LOOKED LIKE Illyn Payne?
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
February 24 2013 07:18 GMT
#4423
At 0:43? That would be Tormund Giantsbane, Tall-talker, Horn-blower and Breaker of Ice, Husband to Bears, the Mead-king of Ruddy Hall, Speaker to Gods and Father of Hosts.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 24 2013 07:19 GMT
#4424
On February 24 2013 16:18 LoLAdriankat wrote:
At 0:43? That would be Tormund Giantsbane, Tall-talker, Horn-blower and Breaker of Ice, Husband to Bears, the Mead-king of Ruddy Hall, Speaker to Gods and Father of Hosts.

gdlk
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
AstroPegnuin
Profile Joined November 2012
293 Posts
February 24 2013 07:29 GMT
#4425
On February 24 2013 10:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 10:18 Zealotdriver wrote:
Jon Snow is over. Stannis is over. Time to move on imho.

Oh, you so funny. The odds of Jon dying 100% are close to nil, and Stannis has to win the Iron Throne (only to lose it to Dany right after).


Personally I've always interpreted Georges "bittersweet ending" that he has planned to be something along the lines of Stannis just straight up winning the Iron Throne, I mean you have to admit that would leave a bitter aftertaste for some people while still giving a somewhat satisfying conclusion.

I've always found Stannis interesting in the sense that he's doing all that he's doing despite wanting none of it (So we are lead to believe) simply because it's his duty.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 24 2013 07:37 GMT
#4426
On February 24 2013 16:29 AstroPegnuin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 10:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:18 Zealotdriver wrote:
Jon Snow is over. Stannis is over. Time to move on imho.

Oh, you so funny. The odds of Jon dying 100% are close to nil, and Stannis has to win the Iron Throne (only to lose it to Dany right after).


Personally I've always interpreted Georges "bittersweet ending" that he has planned to be something along the lines of Stannis just straight up winning the Iron Throne, I mean you have to admit that would leave a bitter aftertaste for some people while still giving a somewhat satisfying conclusion.

I've always found Stannis interesting in the sense that he's doing all that he's doing despite wanting none of it (So we are lead to believe) simply because it's his duty.

I would much more prefer that Petyr Baelish ends the game of thrones by becoming super rich or some shit, that guy's a genius and I have no idea what his fucking end-game plan is, but he's been playing it right thus far. Seems like the Vayle is in pristine form, ready to back/attack whatever he wants
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
whatwhatanut
Profile Joined December 2010
United States195 Posts
February 24 2013 07:45 GMT
#4427
On February 24 2013 10:31 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 10:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:18 Zealotdriver wrote:
Jon Snow is over. Stannis is over. Time to move on imho.

Oh, you so funny. The odds of Jon dying 100% are close to nil, and Stannis has to win the Iron Throne (only to lose it to Dany right after).



Jon Snow will get some Red priest fire breath to resurrect. Just like Dondarrion? ( the lightning lord that doesnt die but finally dies after resurrecting too often )
the dude cant die. he doesnt know yet that he is a shapeshifter... and we dont know who his parents are!

Stannis will become the Bolton bastard's bitch. And he will suffer. Terrible terrible damage.



He doesn't die from reviving to much. He dies from breathing the fire of his "half-life" into Cat.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
February 24 2013 07:52 GMT
#4428
On February 24 2013 16:37 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 16:29 AstroPegnuin wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:18 Zealotdriver wrote:
Jon Snow is over. Stannis is over. Time to move on imho.

Oh, you so funny. The odds of Jon dying 100% are close to nil, and Stannis has to win the Iron Throne (only to lose it to Dany right after).


Personally I've always interpreted Georges "bittersweet ending" that he has planned to be something along the lines of Stannis just straight up winning the Iron Throne, I mean you have to admit that would leave a bitter aftertaste for some people while still giving a somewhat satisfying conclusion.

I've always found Stannis interesting in the sense that he's doing all that he's doing despite wanting none of it (So we are lead to believe) simply because it's his duty.

I would much more prefer that Petyr Baelish ends the game of thrones by becoming super rich or some shit, that guy's a genius and I have no idea what his fucking end-game plan is, but he's been playing it right thus far. Seems like the Vayle is in pristine form, ready to back/attack whatever he wants


He's the meritocrat. If you like the west then you should like Petyr.

That said he's not connected with the mystical enough to survive.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
AstroPegnuin
Profile Joined November 2012
293 Posts
February 24 2013 08:00 GMT
#4429
On February 24 2013 16:52 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 16:37 tshi wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:29 AstroPegnuin wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:18 Zealotdriver wrote:
Jon Snow is over. Stannis is over. Time to move on imho.

Oh, you so funny. The odds of Jon dying 100% are close to nil, and Stannis has to win the Iron Throne (only to lose it to Dany right after).


Personally I've always interpreted Georges "bittersweet ending" that he has planned to be something along the lines of Stannis just straight up winning the Iron Throne, I mean you have to admit that would leave a bitter aftertaste for some people while still giving a somewhat satisfying conclusion.

I've always found Stannis interesting in the sense that he's doing all that he's doing despite wanting none of it (So we are lead to believe) simply because it's his duty.

I would much more prefer that Petyr Baelish ends the game of thrones by becoming super rich or some shit, that guy's a genius and I have no idea what his fucking end-game plan is, but he's been playing it right thus far. Seems like the Vayle is in pristine form, ready to back/attack whatever he wants


He's the meritocrat. If you like the west then you should like Petyr.

That said he's not connected with the mystical enough to survive.


Lol if Petyr was a real life interpretation he'd pretty much be Wall Street/The Banks of America, he purposely screwed over the economy of Westeros as a part of his plan. However I think he's a bit to mentally unstable in terms of his obsession over Cat which seems to be now translating to Sansa, I can see this being his foil and downfall if he were to ever have one. Sansa being one of my favorite characters (Fuck me right?) I would like to see her put him in his place in some form or another, I mean Sansa almost most certainly is going to have a huge role to play considering she's been built up for 4 books in a fluctuating arc that will surely come to head.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 24 2013 11:06 GMT
#4430
On February 24 2013 15:52 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 10:41 Dakkas wrote:
On February 24 2013 07:50 Irrelevant Label wrote:
My faith in them turning Jaime around and managing to make him like his book incarnation just became non-zero when I noticed that it cuts to him looking beaten, dirty and screaming on the "when you put a sword in his hand" line. If they are intentionally hinting at the inverse as it looks like than good times ahead for Jaime's character in the show.


It's being ironic, because a sword was put into his hand........and came out the other side

EDIT: Misread what you said, confused when you said "non-zero"


It is the best touch in the trailer I think. The chess move at the very end is the other great foreshadow. The Robb one is too obvious. I don't think you need to know what is going to happen already to pick up when the shot switches to a clear shot of a single person when the the monologue is saying people will die.

The cut to Cersei on the losing what they love line is interesting. I wouldn't think the purple wedding is going to make it into season 3. Maybe the two seasons ahead hint as well as just being direct with who Cat was talking about was enough to make it their shot choice regardless. Maybe the show will play up the fall of her and Jaime's relationship stronger/earlier than the books.


PW is obviously going to be in season 4, only an nitwit would think otherwise. If it was in 3 then it'll mean that you have most of the biggest aSoS moments in s3 leaving only attack on the Wall as the only major event in s4. That would be ridiculously poor pacing
sths
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Australia192 Posts
February 24 2013 11:11 GMT
#4431
I remember hearing/seeing Peter Dinklage say he doesn't read the books and whatnot. So he might be surprised when his name becomes YOLO and he has to do really embarrassing/undignified stuff. Wonder if he'll be cool with it.


They'll have to change some scenes unless they somehow train Peter Dinklage to become a professional pig rider.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 24 2013 11:25 GMT
#4432
Wtf is purple wedding? When Joffrey dies?
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
February 24 2013 13:00 GMT
#4433
Yes.
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
February 24 2013 18:42 GMT
#4434
On February 24 2013 20:11 sths wrote:
Show nested quote +
I remember hearing/seeing Peter Dinklage say he doesn't read the books and whatnot. So he might be surprised when his name becomes YOLO and he has to do really embarrassing/undignified stuff. Wonder if he'll be cool with it.


They'll have to change some scenes unless they somehow train Peter Dinklage to become a professional pig rider.


If he sucks at it and falls off isn't that more or less perfect 'acting' to match Tyrion's performance in those situations?

I'd think he might like the chance to make it into a bit of a soap-box moment. He won't be playing the freakshow part, he'll be playing someone who is being forced to play a freakshow part. The "dude playing a dude playing a dude" distinction. It's a good chance to say "Hey, you know how fucked up this is when Joffrey and primitive slavers make Tyrion do it? Well guess whose role you *entertainment industry/society* have IRL whenever something like this is done? Yeah, go choke on something."



I wonder if they will depict cyvasse in enough detail to effectively invent the game or if it will just be chess with some altered piece appearances and names.
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
February 24 2013 19:29 GMT
#4435
On February 24 2013 20:25 -Archangel- wrote:
Wtf is purple wedding? When Joffrey dies?

Just to explain it. Purple has been the color of royalty throughout history.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
February 24 2013 19:50 GMT
#4436
On February 25 2013 04:29 feanor1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 20:25 -Archangel- wrote:
Wtf is purple wedding? When Joffrey dies?

Just to explain it. Purple has been the color of royalty throughout history.


And the color his face turns.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
February 24 2013 20:07 GMT
#4437
And the colour of the poisoned hairnet
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 23:07:37
February 24 2013 22:32 GMT
#4438
On February 25 2013 03:42 Irrelevant Label wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 20:11 sths wrote:
I remember hearing/seeing Peter Dinklage say he doesn't read the books and whatnot. So he might be surprised when his name becomes YOLO and he has to do really embarrassing/undignified stuff. Wonder if he'll be cool with it.


They'll have to change some scenes unless they somehow train Peter Dinklage to become a professional pig rider.


If he sucks at it and falls off isn't that more or less perfect 'acting' to match Tyrion's performance in those situations?

I'd think he might like the chance to make it into a bit of a soap-box moment. He won't be playing the freakshow part, he'll be playing someone who is being forced to play a freakshow part. The "dude playing a dude playing a dude" distinction. It's a good chance to say "Hey, you know how fucked up this is when Joffrey and primitive slavers make Tyrion do it? Well guess whose role you *entertainment industry/society* have IRL whenever something like this is done? Yeah, go choke on something."



I wonder if they will depict cyvasse in enough detail to effectively invent the game or if it will just be chess with some altered piece appearances and names.

I was wondering the same at some point, i would really like to learn that game. Once i was thinking about submitting this question to GRRM, but i ve seen small chance of being answered so didnt bother

Sounds like Settlers of Catan mixed with Chess
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
February 24 2013 22:39 GMT
#4439
On February 24 2013 17:00 AstroPegnuin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 16:52 Sabu113 wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:37 tshi wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:29 AstroPegnuin wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:18 Zealotdriver wrote:
Jon Snow is over. Stannis is over. Time to move on imho.

Oh, you so funny. The odds of Jon dying 100% are close to nil, and Stannis has to win the Iron Throne (only to lose it to Dany right after).


Personally I've always interpreted Georges "bittersweet ending" that he has planned to be something along the lines of Stannis just straight up winning the Iron Throne, I mean you have to admit that would leave a bitter aftertaste for some people while still giving a somewhat satisfying conclusion.

I've always found Stannis interesting in the sense that he's doing all that he's doing despite wanting none of it (So we are lead to believe) simply because it's his duty.

I would much more prefer that Petyr Baelish ends the game of thrones by becoming super rich or some shit, that guy's a genius and I have no idea what his fucking end-game plan is, but he's been playing it right thus far. Seems like the Vayle is in pristine form, ready to back/attack whatever he wants


He's the meritocrat. If you like the west then you should like Petyr.

That said he's not connected with the mystical enough to survive.


Lol if Petyr was a real life interpretation he'd pretty much be Wall Street/The Banks of America, he purposely screwed over the economy of Westeros as a part of his plan. However I think he's a bit to mentally unstable in terms of his obsession over Cat which seems to be now translating to Sansa, I can see this being his foil and downfall if he were to ever have one. Sansa being one of my favorite characters (Fuck me right?) I would like to see her put him in his place in some form or another, I mean Sansa almost most certainly is going to have a huge role to play considering she's been built up for 4 books in a fluctuating arc that will surely come to head.

I think Littlefinger will have his moment of glory, but only to see it crash horribly on him. His obsession with Sansa is going to grow probably, up to the point where he will try to have sex with her most likely. I have some nagging feeling that Sansa will end up killing Littlefinger.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 24 2013 22:47 GMT
#4440
On February 24 2013 17:00 AstroPegnuin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 16:52 Sabu113 wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:37 tshi wrote:
On February 24 2013 16:29 AstroPegnuin wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On February 24 2013 10:18 Zealotdriver wrote:
Jon Snow is over. Stannis is over. Time to move on imho.

Oh, you so funny. The odds of Jon dying 100% are close to nil, and Stannis has to win the Iron Throne (only to lose it to Dany right after).


Personally I've always interpreted Georges "bittersweet ending" that he has planned to be something along the lines of Stannis just straight up winning the Iron Throne, I mean you have to admit that would leave a bitter aftertaste for some people while still giving a somewhat satisfying conclusion.

I've always found Stannis interesting in the sense that he's doing all that he's doing despite wanting none of it (So we are lead to believe) simply because it's his duty.

I would much more prefer that Petyr Baelish ends the game of thrones by becoming super rich or some shit, that guy's a genius and I have no idea what his fucking end-game plan is, but he's been playing it right thus far. Seems like the Vayle is in pristine form, ready to back/attack whatever he wants


He's the meritocrat. If you like the west then you should like Petyr.

That said he's not connected with the mystical enough to survive.


Lol if Petyr was a real life interpretation he'd pretty much be Wall Street/The Banks of America, he purposely screwed over the economy of Westeros as a part of his plan. However I think he's a bit to mentally unstable in terms of his obsession over Cat which seems to be now translating to Sansa, I can see this being his foil and downfall if he were to ever have one. Sansa being one of my favorite characters (Fuck me right?) I would like to see her put him in his place in some form or another, I mean Sansa almost most certainly is going to have a huge role to play considering she's been built up for 4 books in a fluctuating arc that will surely come to head.


Favourite character... Sansa....

It boggles the mind.
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