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On February 12 2013 06:47 itkovian wrote:
...And then nothing would ever happen with him after that. It would be satisfying to see all the aspirations people have for him to be denied, with no resolution for him at the end. And it would be entertaining to watch him lose his sanity- I think GRRM could write the process well enough
No, Shield Anvil! I would not like to read that!
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Isn't it based on War of the Roses? I thought I read that somewhere but haven't really had the time to look at the parallel.
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On February 15 2013 06:49 RuskiPanda wrote:
Isn't it based on War of the Roses? I thought I read that somewhere but haven't really had the time to look at the parallel.
GRRM names that as one of his main inspiration, among many. Like he mentions The Wall was inspired by Hadrian's wall etc
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On February 15 2013 06:49 SevenShots wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 06:47 itkovian wrote:
...And then nothing would ever happen with him after that. It would be satisfying to see all the aspirations people have for him to be denied, with no resolution for him at the end. And it would be entertaining to watch him lose his sanity- I think GRRM could write the process well enough No, Shield Anvil! I would not like to read that!
Yes you will! And you will like it!
Or I will feed you to the tenescowri
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Glad the cut the Loras scene, I feel he'd never shown his pain like that.
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On February 20 2013 13:49 Monsen wrote:
Glad the cut the Loras scene, I feel he'd never shown his pain like that.
Yea, that scene felt weird. I guess if there was one person he would confide his emotions to, it would be margaery. But even then, we never really see that side of Loras in the books. We only see him hot-headed and strong willed.
Also, it bugs me how weak the show makes Renly seem. In the books, I read him as a politically savvy young Robert who had everything going for him, but the show just makes him look like some tool manipulated by Loras.
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On February 20 2013 13:49 Monsen wrote:
Glad the cut the Loras scene, I feel he'd never shown his pain like that.
In the books we never see Loras talking to anyone he is close to like his sister. I think Loras was a pretty emotional guy, i mean "When the sun has set no candle can replace it"
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On February 20 2013 14:11 itkovian wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2013 13:49 Monsen wrote:
Glad the cut the Loras scene, I feel he'd never shown his pain like that. Yea, that scene felt weird. I guess if there was one person he would confide his emotions to, it would be margaery. But even then, we never really see that side of Loras in the books. We only see him hot-headed and strong willed. Also, it bugs me how weak the show makes Renly seem. In the books, I read him as a politically savvy young Robert who had everything going for him, but the show just makes him look like some tool manipulated by Loras.
I disagree with you on Loras. Everything he has done since Renly died is drenched with his grief for him.
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On February 21 2013 00:52 Adron wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2013 14:11 itkovian wrote:On February 20 2013 13:49 Monsen wrote:
Glad the cut the Loras scene, I feel he'd never shown his pain like that. Yea, that scene felt weird. I guess if there was one person he would confide his emotions to, it would be margaery. But even then, we never really see that side of Loras in the books. We only see him hot-headed and strong willed. Also, it bugs me how weak the show makes Renly seem. In the books, I read him as a politically savvy young Robert who had everything going for him, but the show just makes him look like some tool manipulated by Loras. I disagree with you on Loras. Everything he has done since Renly died is drenched with his grief for him.
Perhaps, but that scene shows it in a different way. In the book Loras was angry and vengeful about Renly's death, but that clip made him seem frail and apologetic about it.
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I'm not saying he isn't griefing, I'm saying he wouldn't show it like that.
Just my impression of the character- w/e.
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On February 20 2013 10:00 feanor1 wrote:Some deleted scenes from Season 2 Loras and Margaery + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1n_CA-GjIk Varys and Petyr Baelish + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvZmBYnowEs Irri and Doreah + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ls-iBaQcA Sandor/Sansa/Tyrion + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVRmuOMI7cI Enjoy I am glad they cut the Irri and Doreah scene. I really wish they left the Loras scene in, and I am pretty indifferent about the other two.
Loras and Maragrey scene totally should have been in there, the secondary characters really need some depth and well done scenes like that are the way to go... a pity
Ye, de Irri scene was bad, the Sansa scene also, surpisingly, since it's pretty much exactly drown from the book, but it really felt artificial from both of the actors....
The Varys vs Patyr scene, kinda cool, but again, as every single added scene of LF, he comes off as way to cocksure and confrontational and aggressive etc... but we had that discussin before
Completly different news, GoT ASCENT, the facebook game just started open beta. I for one never played facebook games, but im totally getting into this one. Anyone else?
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I'm conflicted on the Loras scene. I like that they cut it because it would have been another step in continuing their trend of applying modern 'gender' stereotypes which were not present in the books to the gay characters but on the other hand it's, as others have said, depth for a couple important secondary characters.
Loras was pissed and walked up to and killed knights who he thought had failed Renly. He wasn't crying over his armor needing his sister to hug him (ignoring psychological considerations regarding what he should have "needed"). He'd been repressed and conditioned just like the other knights of the setting and acted the stoic part. He just happened to be both handsome and gay. In the show they have run with this over the top prettyboy+emotionally sensitive thing for both him and Renly.
Irri and Sansa scenes were bad. It doesn't really matter that one is almost verbatim from the books while the other is of course not even related to events that were in the books. They both deserved to be cut on their own lack of merits either way.
Petyr was horrible. It's bad enough to have the Cersei confrontation that made it into the final cut, and was at least salvaged by being a great Cersei scene, but this just takes it too far. It isn't just that is is inconsistent with the better character from the books, it is that it is even more of a change than they had been working with to the point that it is basically a third version of LF.
So overall it seems I probably agree with whoever is doing the shows editing.
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On February 23 2013 03:32 Irrelevant Label wrote:
In the show they have run with this over the top prettyboy+emotionally sensitive thing for both him and Renly.
Yeah I thought the directing here was way off track 
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I think we are getting some reek from the that trailer. Also Thoros.
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On February 23 2013 14:39 feanor1 wrote:
I think we are getting some reek from the that trailer. Also Thoros.
YEAH. I thought it might be him but I don't know cuz it doesn't happen for a while, they might just show something happening to a body and never reveal who it is :S Also, i might be reading too much into it, but this might be a HUGE spoiler presented in a subtle-as-fuck way: + Show Spoiler +
EDIT* IT RHYMES WITH SNEEK PEAK
yep.
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0:09 Riverrun? It's on a river (I guess) and very triangular in architecture
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It's Dragonstone. You could see Dragonstone in season 2 during the burning of the Seven.
Anyway, really seems like the upped the production since season 2.
Edit
I love how the trailer foreshadows to a few very major events. Heh.
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On February 23 2013 15:33 scudst0rm wrote:
0:09 Riverrun? It's on a river (I guess) and very triangular in architecture
No, that is an ocean. Ten Towers? It doesn't have Dragonstone's gargoyles, but otherwise that one would make sense. Did they already show it clearly enough to make the association? I only remember a long shot of it in the distance, and from what would have been a very different angle.
I get the impression some things must be reworked a bit because it seems some events from later in the third book are making it into season 3. I know someone in one of the interviews, I think it was the guy playing Pycelle, went as far at to talk as if Tywin dies in season 3 but that is absurd. His death has to come at the end of a number of story threads and we know Oberyn doesn't even show up in season 3 so a couple of those threads cannot get too far before season 4.
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