EPTedit: the people that argue against jamie killing cersei point to the fact that he only has 1 hand. on the other hand, he does have a shiny new gold one...huehuehue
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DURRHURRDERP
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edit: the people that argue against jamie killing cersei point to the fact that he only has 1 hand. on the other hand, he does have a shiny new gold one...huehuehue | ||
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Geo.Rion
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On June 02 2012 22:44 DURRHURRDERP wrote: theres another theory about tyrion that he's actually the son of aerys + joanna lannister; that theory meshes with the theory of him being one of the heads of the dragon edit: the people that argue against jamie killing cersei point to the fact that he only has 1 hand. on the other hand, he does have a shiny new gold one...huehuehue while that would be very convenient to the Tyrion-dragondrider theory, i cant think of any evidence supporting it. Tywin even says that "i can't prove you are not mine" so he must be pretty sure he was the one getting her pregnant with Tyrion. Plus it would start to be kinda soap-opera like, the extinct Targaryens having like a dozen offspring running around | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
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some off the top of my head are: aerys' "liberties" at joanna/tywin wedding (bedding ceremony) differing descriptions of tyrion's hair (to somewhat dirty blonde/almost platinum) etc tyrion's dragon dreams the split between aerys/tywin "you are no son of mine" as he dies | ||
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sung_moon
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DURRHURRDERP
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On June 02 2012 16:55 Lorken wrote: Also, anyone got a body count on Arya? That girl is a beast. Stable boy. 1 Unclear number of Armory Lorch's men when defending the walls of that holdfast when the nightwatch caravan was taken. Multiple, so she was at least up to 3 but given the description calling it only 2 is being quite conservative. The gate guard at Harrenhall, 4+. The Tickler, 5+. Dareon, 6+. Her hit on the ship insurance broker, 7+. Unknown number of potential "semi kills" in her duties at the temple of the many faced god. I do not think any of these would count, but on some level they might be something. They are killing themselves more than anything. It certainly isn't combat or a "hit", but it is still more exposure to people dying while she has somewhat of a hand in it. This has been one of the unfortunate misses of the show. She is supposed to be building a body count and that isn't an ignorable part of her character development but they have been cutting it after the stable boy. By the time she had left the hound her reasoning for dealing with a troublesome woman was, to paraphrase, "it is too bad there are too many people around so I can't just kill her." Arya in the show is 'darkening' rather less than that. Hopefully they will recreate the tickler kill/scene by simply replacing him with Polliver. That is actually a fairly minor change if it is the road they take. He dies in the same scene either way, she gets arguably her most important kill in the same way/time/place and it gets needle back to her in the same way. | ||
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Flik
Canada256 Posts
Anything that has to do with Dany has to follow these "prophecies" that GRRM has wrote in. "you gotta go east before west, north before south yada yada". Well she has gone east and now she has gone north. There is also the betrayals, she's going to be betrayed one more time. Theres also something about "three mounts you must ride, one to bed one to dread and one to love". I don't know if thats talking about dragons or people though. There is also "three fires she must light". Whatever these things mean. I used to think that Bran was going to warg into a dragon but now that Snow's dead I think it'll be him, with Tyrion on the other. I think Stannis will be a dead man soon. Personally I think the Others are going to knock the Wall down shortly into the 6th book, and fuckin kill everything in the North. If they don't I would be mucho disappoint. I think Theon and Asha might get away though, we will see. | ||
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Asha
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You know why Tyrion isn't Aerys son? Because he would mad if he was. The madness skips generations. Rhaegar didn't have it but Viserys did and Dany doesn't have it. So if Tyrion was a Targaryen he would have been the 2nd born and mad. Thats my theory on that. I don't really believe this Aegon is Illyios son either, Jon Connington would have known it. Didn't he help smuggle the baby out? Rhaegar, Viserys, and Daenerys are all the same generation o_O Rhaegar helped plunge the whole of Westeros into war, in part because he thought he was following a prophecy that he dreamt or read in a book and because he liked a hot babe. What a nutter! Viserys was batshit insane on like every level. Psycho! Daenerys rides around burning the fuck out of people to claim a throne for a lineage that dies with her (as far as she knows), then when she's finally getting somewhere she decides to sit in a city that doesn't want her and crush on a man with fake gold teeth and a ridiculous beard. Lunatic! maybe they're all insane =p | ||
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sung_moon
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ionlyplayPROtoss
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On June 03 2012 01:42 Asha` wrote: Rhaegar, Viserys, and Daenerys are all the same generation o_O Rhaegar helped plunge the whole of Westeros into war, in part because he thought he was following a prophecy that he dreamt or read in a book and because he liked a hot babe. What a nutter! Viserys was batshit insane on like every level. Psycho! Daenerys rides around burning the fuck out of people to claim a throne for a lineage that dies with her (as far as she knows), then when she's finally getting somewhere she decides to sit in a city that doesn't want her and crush on a man with fake gold teeth and a ridiculous beard. Lunatic! maybe they're all insane =p There is no way Rhaegar is insane... He was only praised in every single mention of him except robert. | ||
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Razvy
United States132 Posts
On June 02 2012 23:57 DURRHURRDERP wrote: compared to some of the other theories floating around there's actually quite a bit of evidence for it. some off the top of my head are: aerys' "liberties" at joanna/tywin wedding (bedding ceremony) differing descriptions of tyrion's hair (to somewhat dirty blonde/almost platinum) etc tyrion's dragon dreams the split between aerys/tywin "you are no son of mine" as he dies Jamie and Cersei are older than Tyrion. Or did Tywin and Joana get married years after they were born? I think it would be absolutely stupid if they made Tyrion Aerys' son. | ||
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ionlyplayPROtoss
Canada573 Posts
On June 03 2012 04:59 Razvy wrote: Jamie and Cersei are older than Tyrion. Or did Tywin and Joana get married years after they were born? I think it would be absolutely stupid if they made Tyrion Aerys' son. The theory was quite good actually until the appearance of aegon VI. | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
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On June 03 2012 01:33 Flik wrote: You know why Tyrion isn't Aerys son? Because he would mad if he was. The madness skips generations. the targaryen madness doesnt skip generations but rather is rather a matter of luck if a targaryen is born mad or not; neither aerys' father or grandfather were mad. | ||
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Critter
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DURRHURRDERP
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but imagine the rage + fanboy tears if GRRM decides to troll everyone and kill him off for real in the first chapter of the next book | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On June 03 2012 07:50 DURRHURRDERP wrote: noone really believes jon snow is dead but imagine the rage + fanboy tears if GRRM decides to troll everyone and kill him off for real in the first chapter of the next book what's scary is that he'd do it too, as we've seen time and time and time and time-fucking-again | ||
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Lorken
New Zealand804 Posts
On June 02 2012 23:57 DURRHURRDERP wrote: compared to some of the other theories floating around there's actually quite a bit of evidence for it. some off the top of my head are: aerys' "liberties" at joanna/tywin wedding (bedding ceremony) differing descriptions of tyrion's hair (to somewhat dirty blonde/almost platinum) etc tyrion's dragon dreams the split between aerys/tywin "you are no son of mine" as he dies Tywin said the same thing to Jamie when he didn't want the rock as well. | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
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Irrelevant Label
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Now that I think of it I kind of want to see him die now because if he is simply dead and it makes sense/works etc. then GRRM is truly the grand master of character killing. And joining the chorus of "everyone under the sun praised Raegar, he was not mad". Sure, he seems to have had visions (likely legit ones) and did some weird things because of them but that all falls easily under the caveat that greatness/genius vs. madness is a matter information bias and point of view. When it isn't understood people are inclined to call it madness, but a more objective hint we have on the matter is that _everyone_, from both Lannister twins to Barristan and even Littlefinger, who ever provided information about Raegar indicated he was a nice/just/intelligent/good/reasoned/ thelistcouldgoon guy. There is just one drunkard oaf prone to jealously who ever tried to say otherwise. In an argument in which my only information is a he said-they said between one guy of known poor judgement on the matter vs. the rest of the world I'll operate under the assumption that the rest of the world is right. That said Dany is indeed a bit insane, and in the way I have a hard time forgiving: highly education resistant naievete. Even while she is starting to realize how dumb it was to linger in slavers bay, after months of every good adviser she has begging her to see reason and leave it, and all so she could...what? rewrite their culture to be "better" according to her own world view?, she was fantasizing about the opportunistic merc captain on account of his flair. | ||
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