EPTBtw, science fiction is a "what if" postulation of scientific hypotheses being true, and that makes the fiction part of the story. A good science fiction should incorporate real world elements and real world logic in the plot. Did Walking Dead do that? US military overwhelmed entirely? I don't buy the fact that logistics or emotions could be the problem. Knowing the military, I'd say they will probably have used nukes on Atlanta and the cities rather than see them infested.
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Setev
Malaysia390 Posts
Btw, science fiction is a "what if" postulation of scientific hypotheses being true, and that makes the fiction part of the story. A good science fiction should incorporate real world elements and real world logic in the plot. Did Walking Dead do that? US military overwhelmed entirely? I don't buy the fact that logistics or emotions could be the problem. Knowing the military, I'd say they will probably have used nukes on Atlanta and the cities rather than see them infested. | ||
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us.insurgency
United States330 Posts
On December 07 2010 15:42 Setev wrote: Not all viruses can be destroyed by acid, so it makes sense in that scene. Btw, science fiction is a "what if" postulation of scientific hypotheses being true, and that makes the fiction part of the story. A good science fiction should incorporate real world elements and real world logic in the plot. Did Walking Dead do that? US military overwhelmed entirely? I don't buy the fact that logistics or emotions could be the problem. Knowing the military, I'd say they will probably have used nukes on Atlanta and the cities rather than see them infested. They only walk. If they were the zombies from Dawn of the Dead then I could see it. Bunker yourself in and post turrets and machine guns. I cant see the military of any modern country to fall. I guess it wouldn't be a show if everybody survives. | ||
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pfods
United States895 Posts
On December 07 2010 15:42 Setev wrote: Not all viruses can be destroyed by acid, so it makes sense in that scene. Btw, science fiction is a "what if" postulation of scientific hypotheses being true, and that makes the fiction part of the story. A good science fiction should incorporate real world elements and real world logic in the plot. Did Walking Dead do that? US military overwhelmed entirely? I don't buy the fact that logistics or emotions could be the problem. Knowing the military, I'd say they will probably have used nukes on Atlanta and the cities rather than see them infested. yeah but when the outbreak destroys all of civilization in the course of a week or two, you'd have to nuke EVERYWHERE. i haven't read the comics, but i'm sure we haven't seen the last of the military. | ||
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Railxp
Hong Kong1313 Posts
story spoilers, just incase + Show Spoiler + well zombies are going to be the extinction of humans we handle highly contagious diseases that are less dangerous than zombies we also try to find a cure for zombies and have some sort of progress LOL EXPLODE IT WHEN THERES NO MORE POWER oh well, the TV show did have one thing going, im gonna go read the comics now because my friend says its a lot better than the direction the TV show is going at. | ||
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hellsan631
United States695 Posts
On December 07 2010 18:26 Railxp wrote: i dont get the CDC logic of: story spoilers, just incase + Show Spoiler + well zombies are going to be the extinction of humans we handle highly contagious diseases that are less dangerous than zombies we also try to find a cure for zombies and have some sort of progress LOL EXPLODE IT WHEN THERES NO MORE POWER oh well, the TV show did have one thing going, im gonna go read the comics now because my friend says its a lot better than the direction the TV show is going at. Bout that.... + Show Spoiler + It kinda makes sense. Since there was already an establishment that handled deadly diseases, it would be the best equipped to handle the infection. Also, the safe guards were there already. Im sure a lot of other biological agents were still in the facility. Also, awesome next season. 13 episodes! yay! | ||
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HeavenS
Colombia2259 Posts
http://twd-comix.info/ its pretty good | ||
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Trajan98
Canada203 Posts
On December 07 2010 15:51 us.insurgency wrote: They only walk. If they were the zombies from Dawn of the Dead then I could see it. Bunker yourself in and post turrets and machine guns. I cant see the military of any modern country to fall. I guess it wouldn't be a show if everybody survives. If u watch episode 1 a large group of zombies run after the main character. I thought at first they only walk too, but when I went back and watched that episode, he rides around the corner on his horse and there are hundreds of the zombies, and many of them start running after him, and he barely escapes into the tank. So if u imagine millions of these zombies in a frenzy all rushing the military lines, I could see them eventually getting overrun. There would just be simply too many zombies to shoot down, The military would just get zerged and overwhelmed plus the soldiers that go down will also become zombies. | ||
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pfods
United States895 Posts
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
On December 07 2010 14:47 pfods wrote: I literally lold at this "I'm not arguing anything" Okay. Well, since you aren't arguing anything, you can just go and rewatch the first season and have all your questions answered. Do you know what an argument is? I simply stated I find the scenario given in the show hard to believe. Why is it hard to believe? Because there are alternate scenarios which I find likely. I don't have to prove through math or whatever that something else should have happened, all I have to do is illustrate the possibility, the burden is on the writers to make their scenario the most likely through good writing. They didn't do that for me, that's all I'm saying. And trust me I'm not the only one to feel this way through all of these episodes so far past the first one. And for the accusations of "overthinking" and "overanalyzing" and whatnot, my criticisms have not diminished my ability to enjoy the show whatsoever. That makes it merely intellectual exercise. | ||
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Gamerah
United States85 Posts
This would explain why some zombies are super zealous, and others are found almost sleeping. Freshly energized zombies blitzkrieg-ing a military camp seems highly probable as their are a crap load of them, require head-shots to be incapacitated, and there can only be so much man power spread over the country. I can't wait to see a super buff bodybuilder zombie, walker on steroids! | ||
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Joementum
787 Posts
On December 07 2010 15:11 Sprouter wrote: I'm pretty sure that Jenner told Rick that the surface level was locked down and all he did was open the "vault" door. That's why they needed the miracle grenade to escape. He told the group that the topside is locked down. He didn't have to whisper it to him as well for them to get the picture. On December 08 2010 12:49 Krigwin wrote: Do you know what an argument is? I simply stated I find the scenario given in the show hard to believe. Why is it hard to believe? Because there are alternate scenarios which I find likely. I don't have to prove through math or whatever that something else should have happened, all I have to do is illustrate the possibility, the burden is on the writers to make their scenario the most likely through good writing. They didn't do that for me, that's all I'm saying. And trust me I'm not the only one to feel this way through all of these episodes so far past the first one. And for the accusations of "overthinking" and "overanalyzing" and whatnot, my criticisms have not diminished my ability to enjoy the show whatsoever. That makes it merely intellectual exercise. So, what you're saying is that the writers should throw creativity (whether it be "correct" or not) out the window because you think the most likely scenario should always be given? Maybe you should call up the writers and tell them everything that should happen and have them write about that. Because that's what all of us want. A show where we can guess what happens a mile away. @Heavens - Thanks for the link. I started reading and haven't stopped for the past 1.5 hours. This is definitely going on my buy list. Just another set of comics I'm adding to the collection  .[spoiler]After reading the comics a bit, I kind of wish they had chosen some other kid to play Rick's kid. He is such a bad ass in the comics. I just can't imagine the kid playing the current role being such a bad ass. | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
Undead Zombies are illogical and impossible to exists in real science, just turn of your brain...you'll enjoy the series more, it's better that way xD | ||
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Blobskillz
Germany548 Posts
On December 09 2010 21:27 ChaseR wrote: Undead Zombies are illogical and impossible to exists in real science, just turn of your brain...you'll enjoy the series more, it's better that way xD there are bugs that pretty much make zombies of other bugs, so yeah the phenomena itself exists, jsut the question if it would work for humans ;D | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On December 09 2010 21:27 ChaseR wrote: lol you guys need to stop over-analyzing and trying to find logic and reasoning in this show's poorly written plot. Undead Zombies are illogical and impossible to exists in real science, just turn of your brain...you'll enjoy the series more, it's better that way xD I agree with this, it's the proper way to enjoy zombie films. If you want intellectual stimulation then you should be dealing with sci-fi not zombies. Zombies are about heart-in-mouth tension and extreme situations. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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w(oO)t
New Zealand40 Posts
i think the doctor whispered that Lori was pregnant | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
On December 09 2010 21:39 Chrispy wrote: These characters suck. They need to kill off everyone but like 3-4 of them. Right now there's only two characters I don't want to see get eaten alive by zombies, the main cop and Glen. That would make the show the zombie edition of "Cops - The fight against cannibalism" | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On December 08 2010 07:39 HeavenS wrote: dunno if this has been posted before and i know the season is over, but for those of you who want to read the comic you can read the whole thing online here: http://twd-comix.info/ its pretty good Links is down know any reason why is it down ?? | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
I really hope the next season improves. It's a shame that this series is not amazing. The zombies are awesome, but everything else is done so poorly it's sad. | ||
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Joementum
787 Posts
On December 10 2010 00:29 Sawamura wrote: Links is down know any reason why is it down ?? No idea what happened, but it went down sometime overnight on Wednesday. | ||
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