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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
MrBrunk
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada428 Posts
April 01 2013 02:52 GMT
#6721
Wooow, wtf was with that finale. Only tense moment was Andrea's part. Whole lotta nothing for the rest of the episode and the governor getting pissy.

Felt the mid season finale was way better.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 01 2013 02:52 GMT
#6722
Honestly to be fair, that's really a more real representation of how gunfights work. Or in this case, an ambush. You don't usually stand there and fight. Especially if you're just a civilian really. I wanted a gunfight like the comics, but this worked pretty well as well. We didn't have that much cannon fodder anyways.


And Beth is pretty cute with the beanie :3
There is no one like you in the universe.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 01 2013 03:00 GMT
#6723
It really seems like no one working on this show knew this episode was supposed to be a season finale. Barely closed any plots and now we have a damn nursery home to look forward to next season.

I was expecting at least three deaths in Rick's group, them being outnumbered 3:1 and all.

On April 01 2013 11:52 Blisse wrote:
Honestly to be fair, that's really a more real representation of how gunfights work. Or in this case, an ambush. You don't usually stand there and fight. Especially if you're just a civilian really. I wanted a gunfight like the comics, but this worked pretty well as well. We didn't have that much cannon fodder anyways.


And Beth is pretty cute with the beanie :3

Yeah, I'll give them that. Tear gas, sirens, and gunfire in a crowded hallway will destroy anyone's morale, no question about it. However, the build-up to that scene was pretty contrived. There's more than one entrance to the prison; even an amateur leader would know better than to push his whole army through one doorway.
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
April 01 2013 03:04 GMT
#6724
WTF was that?
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 03:06:13
April 01 2013 03:05 GMT
#6725
I love how they had all the commercial breaks at cliffhanger moments of Andrea's situation. Like anyone actually gives a fuck.

I literally fast forwarded through all her parts because I thought it would be 5 minutes of her fumbling with both the pliers and her rampant, uncontrollable hormones, only to succeed at the last moment. And that's exactly what it was. I had a huge grin when the bite mark was showed, for which I feel no shame at all.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 01 2013 03:07 GMT
#6726
On April 01 2013 11:45 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 09:52 trinxified wrote:
So at least in this show, animals haven't been shown to turn yet...

Hmmmm...

It would totally be so interesting. Just imagine how it's going to be. How will they react, behave, or think?

Birds, dogs, fish or even livestock... WOW!


They pretty much stated that zombie animals are not going to make an appearance iirc.



Where was that said? It's probably to avoid any PETA problems?

Anyway, did anyone catch the Talking Dead episode after? There was a phone bomb question, and I totally missed what the dude was trying to say... Anyone chime in as to what it was about and what was said?
Mash2
Profile Joined February 2011
United States132 Posts
April 01 2013 03:09 GMT
#6727
What a lame finale. Did they think people were attached to Andrea's character or something? As a whole, I do think season three was much better than the filth they put out in the first two seasons.
"Quite often the flood of history is undammed or diverted by the character and actions of one man." - Pat Frank, "Alas, Babylon"
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
April 01 2013 03:12 GMT
#6728
On April 01 2013 12:00 LoLAdriankat wrote:
It really seems like no one working on this show knew this episode was supposed to be a season finale. Barely closed any plots and now we have a damn nursery home to look forward to next season.

I was expecting at least three deaths in Rick's group, them being outnumbered 3:1 and all.

Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:52 Blisse wrote:
Honestly to be fair, that's really a more real representation of how gunfights work. Or in this case, an ambush. You don't usually stand there and fight. Especially if you're just a civilian really. I wanted a gunfight like the comics, but this worked pretty well as well. We didn't have that much cannon fodder anyways.


And Beth is pretty cute with the beanie :3

Yeah, I'll give them that. Tear gas, sirens, and gunfire in a crowded hallway will destroy anyone's morale, no question about it. However, the build-up to that scene was pretty contrived. There's more than one entrance to the prison; even an amateur leader would know better than to push his whole army through one doorway.



My issue with that statement is that the Governor has never proved himself to be an amateur leader even. Remember the scene with the army folk? He just walked up to them. Pretty incapable in my opinion.

It also showed when they all just drove into the prison. Did you notice the lack of scouts? They were really confused when there was no resistance on the outside. Could've been avoided with scouts, but he's clearly shown he's not smart enough to plan like that. In a way this is consistent. Consistently messed up, but consistent.
There is no one like you in the universe.
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
April 01 2013 03:15 GMT
#6729
This has gota be the worst season finale I've ever seen, at least Andrea is finally dead, o well time to catch Game of Thrones premiere, pls make up for this pos.
Nairul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
April 01 2013 03:22 GMT
#6730
On March 26 2013 02:16 Nairul wrote:
Poll: Season Finale: Which group member dies?

Hershel (27)
 
36%

Glenn (15)
 
20%

Maggie (11)
 
15%

Judith (the baby!) (6)
 
8%

Beth (Maggie's Sister) (5)
 
7%

Carol (4)
 
5%

Carl (3)
 
4%

Daryl (2)
 
3%

Rick (1)
 
1%

Michonne (1)
 
1%

75 total votes

Your vote: Season Finale: Which group member dies?

(Vote): Rick
(Vote): Carl
(Vote): Hershel
(Vote): Glenn
(Vote): Daryl
(Vote): Michonne
(Vote): Maggie
(Vote): Beth (Maggie's Sister)
(Vote): Carol
(Vote): Judith (the baby!)




So... uh, guess we're all wrong lololol.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
April 01 2013 03:24 GMT
#6731
^Best part is Andrea isn't even one of the choices, LOL.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 04:31:27
April 01 2013 03:27 GMT
#6732
On April 01 2013 11:30 Zalithian wrote:
The combat was just horrible. A whole season of buildup just to have no real fighting. The governor's plan is to run everyone inside a jail to get ambushed and then run away. That's the whole thing. Wow.


No, that wasn't the plan. Watch the episode again and actually pay attention. The governor never told them to run away. Right before he killed all of them, the governor told them that they had to go back and entrench themselves at the prison but they refused. Thus, his plan was ruined. He had no idea his people would panic and run when the situation got heated. This is evidenced by the scene where he told Andrea (right before he stabbed Milton) that everyone in the town was riled up by the lies. He incorrectly assumed that a bunch of random civilians had the same level of bloodlust and hardiness as him. Simply teaching them how to fight and feeding them lies to induce fear is not enough.

On April 01 2013 11:34 TidusX.Yuna wrote:
I agree, Zalithian. I was getting pretty bored of the 95% politics, 5% action the show had started to take the past month or so. I was really hoping for something better this week. Probably not going to continue watching next season.


It's mind-blowing just how stupid you people are. Since season 1 people have come to this thread after almost every episode and whined about how there's not enough action and killing. And every time someone does this, it gets pointed out that this is not an action-centric show about killing zombies and people. You would think that by season 3 viewers would get this.

Moreover, the fight was as accurate as possible to a real-life scenario, as Blisse pointed out.

Overall, this was one of the better season finales I've seen. And best of all, there's no 6+ month cliff-hanger. That said, Andrea should have tried to pick up the pliers while talking to Milton, instead of wasting so much time. Also, I'm not sure why Martinez and that black guy didn't kill the governor after they saw what he did.
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RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
April 01 2013 03:27 GMT
#6733
what a terrible ending
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 03:33:19
April 01 2013 03:30 GMT
#6734
The episode was okay... nothing too special. I never gotten attached to Andrea at all. She had her moments, but majority of the time I just cringe my teeth and shake my head. When time came, I just didn't care at all. I did like the way she went out, but I was expecting more. I liked the scene of the Governor mowing down the civilians. I am not saying I enjoy genocide and murdering, but it shows how crazy each episode he becomes. I was hoping Martinez would do something, but instead he just got freaked out and stood by the car watching.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 01 2013 03:33 GMT
#6735
On April 01 2013 12:07 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:45 Cloud9157 wrote:
On April 01 2013 09:52 trinxified wrote:
So at least in this show, animals haven't been shown to turn yet...

Hmmmm...

It would totally be so interesting. Just imagine how it's going to be. How will they react, behave, or think?

Birds, dogs, fish or even livestock... WOW!


They pretty much stated that zombie animals are not going to make an appearance iirc.



Where was that said? It's probably to avoid any PETA problems?

Anyway, did anyone catch the Talking Dead episode after? There was a phone bomb question, and I totally missed what the dude was trying to say... Anyone chime in as to what it was about and what was said?


Back before the tv series even exists, when there were only the comics, robert kirkman stated in an interview that the zombie virus doesn't affect animals. Only humans turn. Zombies will eat animals though, considering they're "warm bodies."
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
April 01 2013 03:34 GMT
#6736
The worst season finale of the show. No one I really cared about died. So anti-climatic. Felt like a normal episode, not a finale. Just glad that they didn't kill Daryl, only character I still care about.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-01 03:35:37
April 01 2013 03:35 GMT
#6737
Really, if they had just left the Governor with his 3-5 best men to go against the rest of the group, I would have had more enjoyment out of the finale. I mean, let the civs run/retreat back to Woodbury, but let the real fighters slug it out with the group. Would have actually given us the death toll that was hyped up, as well as given some decent action.

Moreover, the Governor would have been dead then. Leaving him for next season is a mistake, going to maintain that.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
April 01 2013 03:35 GMT
#6738
On April 01 2013 11:16 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:13 Zode wrote:
So I guess the governor just slinked away? Didn't even bother going back to woodbury. Let alone everyone at woodbury just accepting he killed everyone and that they should go to the prison, rather then their safe walled in homes?


This is what I'm upset at the most. The last 10 minutes was critical and felt like it should be 30 mins more instead. It was so rushed. Didn't explain where governor, Martinez, and the other black dude went, and why everyone that stayed in Woodbury just decided to take off so easily too.

Now did they get any supplies too? How will they support all of those people.


Uh, you do realize that the show isn't over, right? All of these questions will be answered later. There simply isn't enough time in 1 hour to go over absolutely every single aspect of the plot. As far as the season finale is concerned, none of these questions are relevant, hence they weren't answered.
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Zalithian
Profile Joined June 2011
520 Posts
April 01 2013 03:39 GMT
#6739
On April 01 2013 12:27 javy_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:30 Zalithian wrote:
The combat was just horrible. A whole season of buildup just to have no real fighting. The governor's plan is to run everyone inside a jail to get ambushed and then run away. That's the whole thing. Wow.


No, that wasn't the plan. Watch the episode again and actually pay attention. The governor never told them to run away. Right before he killed all of them, the governor told them that they had to go back and entrench themselves at the prison but they refused. Thus, his plan was ruined. He had no idea his people would panic and run when the situation got heated. This is evidenced by the scene where he told Andrea (right before he stabbed Milton) that everyone in the town was riled up by the lies. He incorrectly assumed that a bunch of random civilians had the same level of bloodlust and hardiness as him. Simply teaching them how to fight and feeding them lies to induce fear is not enough.

Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:34 TidusX.Yuna wrote:
I agree, Zalithian. I was getting pretty bored of the 95% politics, 5% action the show had started to take the past month or so. I was really hoping for something better this week. Probably not going to continue watching next season.


It's mind-blowing just how stupid you people are. Since season 1 people have come to this thread after almost every episode and whined about how there's not enough action and killing. And everyone time someone does this, it gets pointed out that this is not a show about killing zombies and people. You would think that by season 3 viewers would get this.

Moreover, the fight was as accurate as possible to a real-life scenario, as Blisse pointed out.

Overall, this was one of the best season finales I've seen. And best of all, there's no 6+ month cliff-hanger.


Ah, yes. Sorry smart guy. None of us are smart enough to understand what happened in the show. Let me rephrase:

I was disappointed that the "epic fight" which was built up during the whole season turned into a pathetic 2 minute slaughter. The governor has the tactical prowess of Pocahontas. Let's just run into a maze with no lights, no idea where we're going and then see what happens. Just horrible.

Second, on realism - you're defending how the show was boring by saying it was realistic. Hooray, a show about the zombie apocalypse had a realistic part! Cool. If I wanted realism, I'd watch a documentary, not a fiction show about zombies.


javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
April 01 2013 03:50 GMT
#6740
On April 01 2013 12:39 Zalithian wrote:

Ah, yes. Sorry smart guy. None of us are smart enough to understand what happened in the show. Let me rephrase:

I was disappointed that the "epic fight" which was built up during the whole season turned into a pathetic 2 minute slaughter. The governor has the tactical prowess of Pocahontas. Let's just run into a maze with no lights, no idea where we're going and then see what happens. Just horrible.


Go watch the show again and point out evidence that the governor was certified as a tactical genius. You don't turn into a strategic mastermind just because the apocalypse occurred. He tried his best but because he has no formal training in this sort of thing he miscalculated a lot of stuff, in part due to this rage and bloodlust.

Second, on realism - you're defending how the show was boring by saying it was realistic. Hooray, a show about the zombie apocalypse had a realistic part! Cool. If I wanted realism, I'd watch a documentary, not a fiction show about zombies.


I'm not defending it was boring because it wasn't boring. I'm defending the scene because it played out in the best possible and most accurate manner. A few days of learning how to shoot a rifle does not make you a hardened fighter. The scene would have been terrible of all of the sudden all these civilians learned how to handle the chaos that comes with battle. Furthermore, I take it you're not very familiar with science-fiction. Just because the apocalypse isn't realistic doesn't mean all of the sudden any unbelievable sort of thing should happen. There CAN be realism in science-fiction.
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