EPTmerle zombie was scary as shit, btw. I'm surprised the governor doesn't have a zombie engineering program in that pit; weld some chopping implements/give some armor to people, kill them and then throw them at rick's group.
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TheExile19
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merle zombie was scary as shit, btw. I'm surprised the governor doesn't have a zombie engineering program in that pit; weld some chopping implements/give some armor to people, kill them and then throw them at rick's group. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On March 26 2013 04:27 TheExile19 wrote: merle is a pretty dumb character, but shallow is a bit much. he simply decided that he wasn't cut out to coexist in rick's group after all the shit he pulled nor did he want to drag his brother down, so he went out to try and kill the governor, which logistically could have and almost did happen except plot armor. he didn't bring michonne because the point was to atone for what he'd done without sacrificing anyone else or actually changing himself in any way. it's an interesting mix of heroism and cowardice, and honestly pretty good stuff by TWD standards. I agree. My point was that Michonne trying to get into Merle's head had nothing to do with that. He had a plan and he executed it, regardless of what Michonne said to him. | ||
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Anonymous_Coward
United Kingdom1347 Posts
On March 26 2013 04:31 Conti wrote: I agree. My point was that Michonne trying to get into Merle's head had nothing to do with that. He had a plan and he executed it, regardless of what Michonne said to him. I think what the intent behind the episode was that he was actually going to turn her over, but when she said something like "Yeah, we'll both be outsiders, but at least when the governor is done with me, I won't have to live with it", Merle thought "What the hell, I'll kill the governor, or die trying". | ||
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TheExile19
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On March 26 2013 04:37 Anonymous_Coward wrote: I think what the intent behind the episode was that he was actually going to turn her over, but when she said something like "Yeah, we'll both be outsiders, but at least when the governor is done with me, I won't have to live with it", Merle thought "What the hell, I'll kill the governor, or die trying". And that's exactly what would turn Merle into a dumb, shallow character. Michonne's little speech wasn't even very convincing. It was blatantly obvious what she was trying to do, and it was equally blatantly obvious what she was pointing out. You have to be a specifically dumb person not to have ever thought of this yourself. Merle going from "I'm going to turn her over to get on the gov's good side." to "Uh oh, she's totally right. Better kill myself." just doesn't make any sense. Merle had a lot of time to himself in the prison. Nobody but his brother liked him. They hated him, actually. He had a lot of time to do some self-reflection and think about his life. And during that time he should have come to the conclusion that he's an asshole that nobody likes and that should start doing something good. And so he decided not to have Michonne killed (he knew the gov, so he knew that the gov would never just let the rest of the group go like that) and have a go to kill the gov himself. | ||
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Anonymous_Coward
United Kingdom1347 Posts
Of course he's a dumb, shallow character. This is TWD, interesting character development is not a strong point of the series. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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TheExile19
513 Posts
I really don't get the hate for the michonne dialogue, it was A+ as far as the TWD standard goes and I really don't think there was much under the surface of what was presented. again, sure this whole arc merle has in one episode is kind of silly, but I don't believe I'd be any more credulous when presented with the merle you're offering when he's never been anything but obnoxious up until now. you're basically arguing for a redone half-season, and well, that would be nice but we're stuck with this stuff. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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TheExile19
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On March 26 2013 04:55 TheExile19 wrote: ...rick didn't sell her, he never acted on her at all and merle took her knowing full well rick wouldn't. Merle even said that Rick was gonna back out of the plan so he did it by himself. If anything this just confirms that she is safe at the prison as she isn't going to be sold out. | ||
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Poland9331 Posts
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TheExile19
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as for why merle is on rick's short list, he knows a lot about woodbury and daryl is pretty clearly trying to get merle included in the machinations of the group. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On March 26 2013 05:00 Sent. wrote: Then why did Rick tell Merle about Governor's offer? It seemed clear to me that he just didn't want to get his hands dirty. Obviously he didn't need Merle's help in his moral dilemmas. He couldn't capture Michonne by himself and he needed help, call for Merle. I don't know what were argueing about here. Rick made up his mind and choose to not go with the plan in the end and that's all that matters. | ||
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ImAbstracT
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On March 26 2013 05:08 ImAbstracT wrote: Hershel said he would do anything to protect his girls in the middle of the episode. He dies next week. Calling it now. But but but.. who's going to play the part of the wise old guy then? | ||
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TheExile19
513 Posts
On March 26 2013 05:11 Conti wrote: But but but.. who's going to play the part of the wise old guy then? they'll go grab morgan for season 4, he's not quite as old but at least as jaded and zombie world-wise | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On March 26 2013 05:04 Zooper31 wrote: He couldn't capture Michonne by himself and he needed help, call for Merle. I don't know what were argueing about here. Rick made up his mind and choose to not go with the plan in the end and that's all that matters. I read it the other way. Merle did not want Rick taking Michonne to the governor while Merle was on his suicide run, so he kidnapped her to make sure she was not with Rick. | ||
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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
On March 26 2013 02:16 Nairul wrote: Poll: Season Finale: Which group member dies? Hershel (27) Glenn (15) Maggie (11) Judith (the baby!) (6) Beth (Maggie's Sister) (5) Carol (4) Carl (3) Daryl (2) Rick (1) Michonne (1) 75 total votes Your vote: Season Finale: Which group member dies? (Vote): Rick When Glenn said "I want to marry Maggie", I knew one of the two was going to die in the next episode. I voted for Glenn because without Maggie we would be left without a hot female to look at, and that won't happen. I was also sad to see Merle gone, he was a much more belivable "bad guy" than Shane, and brought good unforced tension to the show. And as always, when he was just showing some developent and getting a bit interesting as a character, he dies. I'm now afraid for Michone, since she spoke more lines than ever before. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
I think Hershel will die too and it'll suck to see him go  | ||
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