[TV] The Walking Dead - Page 333

On March 25 2013 12:03 Disengaged wrote:


Michael Rooker has been on Talking Dead before.

I'm still really disappointed that Andrew Lincoln has yet to be on Talking Dead.

On March 26 2013 04:45 Conti wrote:

And that's exactly what would turn Merle into a dumb, shallow character.

Michonne's little speech wasn't even very convincing. It was blatantly obvious what she was trying to do, and it was equally blatantly obvious what she was pointing out. You have to be a specifically dumb person not to have ever thought of this yourself. Merle going from "I'm going to turn her over to get on the gov's good side." to "Uh oh, she's totally right. Better kill myself." just doesn't make any sense.

Merle had a lot of time to himself in the prison. Nobody but his brother liked him. They hated him, actually. He had a lot of time to do some self-reflection and think about his life. And during that time he should have come to the conclusion that he's an asshole that nobody likes and that should start doing something good. And so he decided not to have Michonne killed (he knew the gov, so he knew that the gov would never just let the rest of the group go like that) and have a go to kill the gov himself.

On March 26 2013 21:56 JSK wrote:



You're trying far too hard to be critical, like most critics really. Michonne's point about him having to live with himself was one factor in his decision to do what he did. The conversation between Merle and Michonne was much longer than you are making it out to be and much more nuanced as well. The conversation about whether or not to turn her over was ALMOST ENTIRELY the basis of this episode.

Furthermore, it doesn't matter that it was blatantly obvious what she was trying to do or that it was blatantly obvious what she was pointing out. That's the point. He HAD been thinking about it. Obviously. You can tell that from the script. You can't possibly tell me that having somebody else lay things out for you that you (as you yourself said) had been thinking doesn't have an impact.

Merle did have a lot of time to himself in the prison to think about it. Nobody liked him except for his brother. THAT'S WHY HE TOLD MICHONNE HE COULDN'T GO BACK. He DID come to the conclusion that he's an asshole that nobody likes, which was WHY he was turning Michonne over - to survive and co-exist at the prison he had to do their dirty work for them because it was all he COULD do.

The conversation with Michonne didn't convince him he couldn't live with himself, it convinced that it wasn't a life worth living. And that he might as well go out on his own terms in a way that he would be happy with himself.

He also wasn't turning her over to get on the Governor's good side. He was specifically talking TO Michonne about his decision TO turn her over AS him performing the "dirty work" role for the prison group. This was not to get on the Governor's good side. It was to get on the prison's good side, for his own survival. Which he ended up deciding just wasn't worth it because Michonne convinced him that not only would he have trouble living with himself, but that he was LYING to HIMSELF about the reasons for turning her over. This completely contradicts your silly rant. If you need me to literally find the script for you and explain it in-depth, I will.

How you could think this episode turned Merle into a "dumb, shallow character" is absolutely beyond me. Your fatal mistake is assuming that you are smarter than the creators of the show. They have put some pretty stupid shit in the show, that much is true, but this episode was not stupid shit. It was over your head, and you didn't understand it. (or weren't paying attention) Since you did not understand, you assumed that it was not you who had not understood, but the writers themselves.

Basically you didn't understand the show and are trying too hard to criticize it. if you're going to do that, at least criticize valid problems, like walkers literally appearing from nowhere in an absolutely impossible way and attacking Andrea in the last show.

On March 27 2013 01:38 Kazeyonoma wrote:
In the Talking dead, michael rooker lays it all out.

1) it wasn't a suicide mission, he said he felt his character (merle) was doing something to save the group by taking out as many of the bad guys, and hopefully the governor, then returning to the prison. the fact that he didn't get to come back was a consequence he was willing to accept but it WASNT a suicide mission

2) he specifically said he was doing it because he wanted to get on the good side with the prison people. to 'do their dirty work' because ultimately, the only person who cared for him was his brother, and if doing 'good' by the prison people would let him stay with his brother, than he'd do it. he originally thought it was by turning in michonne because rick didn't have the balls to do it, but thanks to michonne's conversation, he realized, he needed to do it alone. But yes, he did it for the prison group, and for himself (most importantly for his brother).

So you can stop speculating, about he was doing it to get back on the good side with the governor, the fucking actor said it was to get on Rick and the Groups good side.

On March 27 2013 01:38 Kazeyonoma wrote:
In the Talking dead, michael rooker lays it all out.

1) it wasn't a suicide mission, he said he felt his character (merle) was doing something to save the group by taking out as many of the bad guys, and hopefully the governor, then returning to the prison. the fact that he didn't get to come back was a consequence he was willing to accept but it WASNT a suicide mission

2) he specifically said he was doing it because he wanted to get on the good side with the prison people. to 'do their dirty work' because ultimately, the only person who cared for him was his brother, and if doing 'good' by the prison people would let him stay with his brother, than he'd do it. he originally thought it was by turning in michonne because rick didn't have the balls to do it, but thanks to michonne's conversation, he realized, he needed to do it alone. But yes, he did it for the prison group, and for himself (most importantly for his brother).

So you can stop speculating, about he was doing it to get back on the good side with the governor, the fucking actor said it was to get on Rick and the Groups good side.

On March 27 2013 01:02 Alay wrote:
I think
(comic-related spoiler?)
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 27 2013 03:08 Conti wrote:

Just for the record, I never said that it was Merle's intention to get on the Governors good side. I used that as an example how it should not have been done. And, apparently, it wasn't, so all is good.

On March 26 2013 23:40 Fulla wrote:
Andreaa is the most annoying character on the show.

We all know obviously she won't die for this reason.

EDIT: Place bets now on who will kill Governor.

Michonne - she cut out his eye, he'll be coming for her.
Andreaa - kidnapped and probably torturing her now.
Glen - still mad about the Maggie incident.
Daryl - just lost his brother to him.
Rick - leader vs leader.

Place bets, place bets!!
I vote Rick.