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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 04 2013 21:47 GMT
#6301
I don't like "interlude" episodes like this. I want to see the overall plot progress. What of the Governor, Andrea, Tyreese, Merle? For all the flaws this show has, it's still exciting and keeps me interested in what'll happen next week. This episode didn't have any of that, it was too standalone.
Diminisherqc
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada220 Posts
March 04 2013 21:54 GMT
#6302
i kinda felt bad for the backpacker all along ...
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 04 2013 21:56 GMT
#6303
On March 05 2013 06:54 Diminisherqc wrote:
i kinda felt bad for the backpacker all along ...

You're supposed to, he's a person. His death is supposed to be tragic and signify the fading humanity in Rick and Carl (not so much Michonne, because we didn't really have a feel of how much she's digressed in the first place).
It's your boy Guzma!
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 22:06:17
March 04 2013 22:04 GMT
#6304
On March 05 2013 06:47 Scorch wrote:
I don't like "interlude" episodes like this. I want to see the overall plot progress. What of the Governor, Andrea, Tyreese, Merle? For all the flaws this show has, it's still exciting and keeps me interested in what'll happen next week. This episode didn't have any of that, it was too standalone.

I thought it was one of the best episodes in a while. Sure it was standalone, but it really brought the tempo down a little, so you can get a fresh feel for the atmosphere of the world they live in - the desperation, grasping for what little humanity remains within them, the impending insanity. Slowing down like this makes me that much more excited to see if they can recover their way, how they can handle the stand off with the governor. It's the calm before the storm.
Excellent episode imo!
Get off my lawn, young punks
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 22:53:15
March 04 2013 22:39 GMT
#6305
I for one thought it was one of the best episodes so far. Solid plot and character development, brought a loose storyline to a close, and the self-dialog Rick had with the black dude was pretty good ("you HAVE to come back from this"). He knows he is fucked and knows he has to get over it, I just thought it was a great way to expose it. And the backpacker's touch was really good as well, it paints the show with a shade of rawness that was so far lacking in all past episodes, except only for the one where Shane shot the fat dude (Odis?) in order to survive a zombie mob.

On March 04 2013 18:17 killa_robot wrote:
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On March 04 2013 14:59 politik wrote:
Wow. When they leave him there, knowing he is just going to slip more and more into madness, very powerful. Especially seeing how his situation is basically a glimpse into Rick's future (at least that's how Rick sees it).

Then the backpack scene at the end, gives us a perfect view of both the horrific brutality and hopelessness, and their changing perceptions of it. For me this was one of the best episodes in the series at communicating exactly the world they've created.


I'm conflicted on the backpack guy.

On the one hand it showed exactly what you said. On the other, I have a REALLY hard time believing a backpacker like him survived for this long.

Good episode though.

Yeah he also could be a faker under the orders of the Goveror that would turn around at the worst possible moment. I'ts a great addition to the episode because while you see (very graphically at the end even) that it is cruel to let him on his own, you also perfectly understand the reasons for them to leave him behind.
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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
March 04 2013 22:48 GMT
#6306
On March 05 2013 06:54 Diminisherqc wrote:
i kinda felt bad for the backpacker all along ...

Yeah, poor guy. I was hoping that they´d find him alive and bring him along.

I think this was a great episode, I really liked the pacing and the isolated feeling you get when they focus on only one group the whole episode. I prefer this style to constantly switching back and forth between what´s happening in the prison and woodbury.
:3
Ario
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada73 Posts
March 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#6307
I really hope they do more episodes like this. Ending every episode with some kind of cliffhanger or big ending scene really kills the effect for me over time. Its nice to have a break from all that every now and then and have a short side story that more or less resolves itself by the end of the episode.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 05 2013 00:12 GMT
#6308
On March 05 2013 03:34 Sableyeah wrote:
Nice episode, very good stuff without Woodbury, the main plot is sickening.
+ Show Spoiler +
I just checked imdb and according to that, Morgan is going to appear in the last episode of the season.


Should probably tag that with something like "Possible finale spoilers". Most spoilers in this thread are just comic stuff/speculation, yours was a bit more spoiler-y than most.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
March 05 2013 03:21 GMT
#6309
I just rewatched it, and how did the screaming guy with a bright orange backpack live that long in the zombie apocalypse? Screaming and wearing bright orange is something you learn day one, maybe two.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 05 2013 05:11 GMT
#6310
I dunno, use your imagination. He was probably with a group that either got wiped out or he was exiled from.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
March 05 2013 08:29 GMT
#6311
On March 05 2013 03:29 omfghi2u2 wrote:
So I started to watch the series recently and I havent caught up with the earlier episodes but why doesn't Rick just move everyone from the prison to where Morgan is? Wouldnt that make sense?

Pro's
Governor won't know where they are if they all slowly slip out
Defenses against zombies
Plenty of guns and weapons
Seems to be a steady supply of food

Can someone clarify for this noob please? Thanks.


Its a total death trap and your new neighbor is pretty unhinged crazy guy who keeps making booby traps, I mean for gods sake rick and team will have enough trouble toddler proofing a prison, let a lone axe trip wired halls.

Cons

Nutty current resident, Rick doesn't seem too keen on killing him, and hes definitely not the mentor type you want around kids.

Food issues, Morgan said the problem has never been guns it always comes down to food. The prison was seen as a good locale because of the water source and that originally it was decided that they could start farming in the fenced in yard. there's no defensible or secure are in the town to begin growing renewable food sources. Rick has also alluded that there should be a nearby pumping station for them to return running water to the prison that isn't connected to the local systems, this a freaking huge step forward in any post apocalyptic setting in terms of health and survival and the town is less likely to have this.

The town is mostly indefensible for their size of group. Sure with all the traps a lone man has been able to hole up in a building and hide and clear a couple walkers. However, the extra space that a larger group with several family units would need for longer term settling means having to expand the area covered in traps, increasing possibility of accidents, you imagine accidentally cutting yourself on one of the traps and getting a festering wound with no antibiotics around? No tetnis shots for all that rust? That place is a medieval death trap for people trying to live there.

No protection from herds. The prison has walls, towers, fences, heavy metal doors to protect against a large herd that has been alluded to being roaming closer to the current story area, the prison is much more defensible than a mostly burnt down town with numerous unsealable entry points.

This goes doubly for protection against people. Woodberry had a larger population and established walls and enough people to keep guards posted. Rick's group isn't large enough to build and maintain that kind of security and even woodberry wasn't able to keep rick from infiltrating twice. All those other buildings are just cover for an advancing group to come and kill you.

Flammability, ties in to the other points. The prison isn't very likely to burn down. Setting fire to town which has no fire dept or running water basically results in the town being a lost cause, the gov (or future threats) would only need a couple molotovs to win that battle.
Shellebelles
Profile Joined December 2012
51 Posts
March 05 2013 11:43 GMT
#6312
As much as I loved the start of season 3, the whole woodbury drama has started to get on my nerves. I can't help but want to strangle Andrea/governor and the hissy fits from Glenn and Maggie so this filler is actually a much needed break.

My heart kinda broke when the backpack guy was chasing them and begging, then at the end when I found out he died I was like D:

Also, Rick so badass getting stabbed and acting like nothing happened. Carl risking his life for a picture is quite dumb imo. But overall nice episode, and sad that it's going back to Woodbury drama.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
March 05 2013 11:56 GMT
#6313
Oh man one of the best episodes of this series. The backpacker really made me sad :/ The moment I saw the blood and flesh at the end I just knew the backpacker died ;(
End my suffering
ikagram
Profile Joined March 2013
7 Posts
March 05 2013 13:34 GMT
#6314
Sorry for stupid question, but is the game "The Walking Dead" based on this TV series?
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1808 Posts
March 05 2013 13:51 GMT
#6315
This is the first episode this season that made me think, and that is awesome. Everything apart Carl's acting was just superb and the episode had a near perfect mix of dialogue/progression/action/emotion. Hope the guy who wrote it and will become exec producer for the show helps turn the show on a route that gives us more episodes like this!
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
March 05 2013 13:58 GMT
#6316
Are there any other promising zombie apocalypse TV-shows announced? Since the success of The Walking Dead and how a common perception of it is "the show that could have been", you'd think some other network would have caught on the trend.

On March 05 2013 22:34 ikagram wrote:
Sorry for stupid question, but is the game "The Walking Dead" based on this TV series?


No it is a separate story, but with some similarities.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
March 05 2013 14:09 GMT
#6317
On March 05 2013 06:56 Requizen wrote:
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On March 05 2013 06:54 Diminisherqc wrote:
i kinda felt bad for the backpacker all along ...

You're supposed to, he's a person. His death is supposed to be tragic and signify the fading humanity in Rick and Carl (not so much Michonne, because we didn't really have a feel of how much she's digressed in the first place).


I wouldn't stop for a hitchhiker in the middle of the woods, because some places just aren't safe and it's not uncommon for criminals to bait with "a poor soul who needs help" in some countries. Especially in this environment, with all rules and legal system being gone, stopping would have been way too risky. Many of the people they meet go hostile, even if they seem friendly or neutral at first. Not stopping is not unusual in this kind of situation. Just on their way back, they probably should have thought to themselves.... well fuck".
Doesn't mean that the guy would have turned against them, if the opportunity had risen. But you gotta think that way in such a universe, or you die.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
March 05 2013 14:10 GMT
#6318
On March 05 2013 22:34 ikagram wrote:
Sorry for stupid question, but is the game "The Walking Dead" based on this TV series?

Yes and no. Same franchise, but the game is based on the comic books. The TV show is kinda like an alternate universe of the comic books.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
March 05 2013 18:16 GMT
#6319
On March 05 2013 23:09 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 06:56 Requizen wrote:
On March 05 2013 06:54 Diminisherqc wrote:
i kinda felt bad for the backpacker all along ...

You're supposed to, he's a person. His death is supposed to be tragic and signify the fading humanity in Rick and Carl (not so much Michonne, because we didn't really have a feel of how much she's digressed in the first place).


I wouldn't stop for a hitchhiker in the middle of the woods, because some places just aren't safe and it's not uncommon for criminals to bait with "a poor soul who needs help" in some countries. Especially in this environment, with all rules and legal system being gone, stopping would have been way too risky. Many of the people they meet go hostile, even if they seem friendly or neutral at first. Not stopping is not unusual in this kind of situation. Just on their way back, they probably should have thought to themselves.... well fuck".
Doesn't mean that the guy would have turned against them, if the opportunity had risen. But you gotta think that way in such a universe, or you die.

Yeah exactly, for their own sake, they just couldn't. Like others have brought up, 'how did the lone back packer survive for so long by himself?' well he COULD have just lost the rest of his group and is desparate, OR his group could be waiting to ambush in the woods. Or he could be someone who jumps from group to group killing them in their sleep and stealing their shit. You just don't know.

On the Talking Dead, someone asked do you think they would've picked him up if he was still alive at the end of the episode? Because all of the characters regained humanity after their situation with Morgan... and no one could answer yes or no, but many said maybe. Then the followup question came up, what if the backpacker was a kid...
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purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
March 05 2013 18:31 GMT
#6320
how do you survive in the woods filled with zombies...backpacking it...
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