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Discussing the show and past episodes is fine. Do not put things that have happened in the TV series in spoilers. However, don't spoil things from the books that may happen in future episodes. Put book spoilers in spoiler tags with a CLEAR WARNING that it is from the book.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
November 19 2012 17:18 GMT
#5301
Seriously, the final meeting with Glen, Maggie and that knifehand dude was pure bs. I'm still baffled why wouldn't Glen just shoot anywhere to stop the guy from advancing, and most hilarious of all, why wouldn't any of them shoot him when he jumped them. TV stupidity at it's best.
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 17:52:16
November 19 2012 17:32 GMT
#5302
Well, Glen isn't Rick, he doesn't just kill people, killing a person # killing a walker, besides he knew him.. I'm pretty sure he just panicked.
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
November 19 2012 18:11 GMT
#5303
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet , but the one thing that kinda made me go "dafuq?" this episode was the chick saying to andrea after killing the walker over the wall was "Hey! This isn't a game!"

Oh, that's rich coming from a person whose past times include watching fist fights between 2 people surrounded by walkers on chains.

Seriously not sure how a writer put that line in without thinking of how ridiculous it sounded.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 19:00:24
November 19 2012 19:00 GMT
#5304
Train gun on guy, then throw gun and dodge away when guy pulls gun. Good work Glenn+Maggie...

I liked when the puking guy knifed the decapitated head. Gotta be on your toes against those body-less walker-heads.
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
November 19 2012 19:02 GMT
#5305
You can still turn if the body is separated from the head?
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 19 2012 19:06 GMT
#5306
On November 20 2012 02:18 ViperPL wrote:
Seriously, the final meeting with Glen, Maggie and that knifehand dude was pure bs. I'm still baffled why wouldn't Glen just shoot anywhere to stop the guy from advancing, and most hilarious of all, why wouldn't any of them shoot him when he jumped them. TV stupidity at it's best.

Because you don't just shoot someone who's been part of your group for weeks, especially if you're Glenn. I don't get why you guys criticize this scene. It's the imperfections that make the show (or any show) interesting. Glenn's not a manly guy who shoots people at the slightest hint of danger, and he very, very obviously did not want to shoot a guy he knew. And Merle knew that, too, and used it to his advantage.

By all means, call Glenn an idiot for not reacting correctly, but that wasn't bad writing.
DwarfTherapist
Profile Joined November 2012
United States48 Posts
November 19 2012 19:32 GMT
#5307
On November 20 2012 04:00 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Train gun on guy, then throw gun and dodge away when guy pulls gun. Good work Glenn+Maggie...

I liked when the puking guy knifed the decapitated head. Gotta be on your toes against those body-less walker-heads.



Come on, you can apply yourself a little more than that.
Merle forces him: "we don't let one of our own turn"

Gotta be on your toes against people who completely miss the point of a scene and then make a quip about it!
SmokeMonster
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada72 Posts
November 19 2012 21:20 GMT
#5308
Why are people complaining about the Glen/Merle scene? It's obvious he hesitated to shoot because the last time the group did something bad to Merle, Daryl went ape shit. What do you think will happen when Glen goes back and tells Daryl "hey here are some baby food, and btw, I killed your brother."?
ChiknAdobo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States208 Posts
November 20 2012 01:20 GMT
#5309
So when Michonne comes up to the prison with all the walkers; I was wondering if they didn't attack here because she had zombie guts all over her or because the zombies were too preoccupied with getting to the prison. It seemed like they were somehow drawn to the jail because of some reason, not sure why. Maybe they have some sort of hive mind connection between zombies and it drew them to the prison. Just trying to make sense of it all.

What do you all think?
ZERg
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
November 20 2012 01:22 GMT
#5310
On November 20 2012 10:20 ChiknAdobo wrote:
So when Michonne comes up to the prison with all the walkers; I was wondering if they didn't attack here because she had zombie guts all over her


^ is what I interpretted, but as for zombie connections/behavior, it's discussed in the comic

+ Show Spoiler +
In that they follow eachother. So one starts walking, others will notice it and follow, and so on, and that's how roaming herds show up

Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 01:34:08
November 20 2012 01:33 GMT
#5311
On November 20 2012 10:20 ChiknAdobo wrote:
So when Michonne comes up to the prison with all the walkers; I was wondering if they didn't attack here because she had zombie guts all over her or because the zombies were too preoccupied with getting to the prison. It seemed like they were somehow drawn to the jail because of some reason, not sure why. Maybe they have some sort of hive mind connection between zombies and it drew them to the prison. Just trying to make sense of it all.

What do you all think?


It's kind've liked in one of the first episodes when Glenn and Rick put the zombie guts on themselves to get to the truck through the zombies and they didn't take notice of them being alive because of the scent until the rain washed it away. Whereas the zombie noticed Michonne because she grabbed her wound, drenched her hand in blood, then put it by the zombies face where he could smell fresh blood.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 20 2012 01:41 GMT
#5312
On November 20 2012 04:06 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 02:18 ViperPL wrote:
Seriously, the final meeting with Glen, Maggie and that knifehand dude was pure bs. I'm still baffled why wouldn't Glen just shoot anywhere to stop the guy from advancing, and most hilarious of all, why wouldn't any of them shoot him when he jumped them. TV stupidity at it's best.

Because you don't just shoot someone who's been part of your group for weeks, especially if you're Glenn. I don't get why you guys criticize this scene. It's the imperfections that make the show (or any show) interesting. Glenn's not a manly guy who shoots people at the slightest hint of danger, and he very, very obviously did not want to shoot a guy he knew. And Merle knew that, too, and used it to his advantage.

By all means, call Glenn an idiot for not reacting correctly, but that wasn't bad writing.


How about when he was holding the gun to Maggie's head on the ground? Surely he could have confidence in hitting a target 2 feet away, and it's not like Merle can react in the time it takes for a bullet to travel from the gun into his head. The scene should have happened like a previous poster described it, with Merle catching them one by one.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 01:56:06
November 20 2012 01:54 GMT
#5313
On November 20 2012 10:41 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 04:06 Conti wrote:
On November 20 2012 02:18 ViperPL wrote:
Seriously, the final meeting with Glen, Maggie and that knifehand dude was pure bs. I'm still baffled why wouldn't Glen just shoot anywhere to stop the guy from advancing, and most hilarious of all, why wouldn't any of them shoot him when he jumped them. TV stupidity at it's best.

Because you don't just shoot someone who's been part of your group for weeks, especially if you're Glenn. I don't get why you guys criticize this scene. It's the imperfections that make the show (or any show) interesting. Glenn's not a manly guy who shoots people at the slightest hint of danger, and he very, very obviously did not want to shoot a guy he knew. And Merle knew that, too, and used it to his advantage.

By all means, call Glenn an idiot for not reacting correctly, but that wasn't bad writing.


How about when he was holding the gun to Maggie's head on the ground? Surely he could have confidence in hitting a target 2 feet away, and it's not like Merle can react in the time it takes for a bullet to travel from the gun into his head. The scene should have happened like a previous poster described it, with Merle catching them one by one.


I think it can be reasonably explained off that Glenn's character wasn't able to think that clearly, and isn't violent by nature anyways, though it probably could have been written better.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
November 20 2012 01:54 GMT
#5314
This show's writting is extremely retarded, But it's still entertaining to watch. The phone thing was very nonsensical and out of place compared to the comics.
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 20 2012 01:57 GMT
#5315
On November 20 2012 04:32 DwarfTherapist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 04:00 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Train gun on guy, then throw gun and dodge away when guy pulls gun. Good work Glenn+Maggie...

I liked when the puking guy knifed the decapitated head. Gotta be on your toes against those body-less walker-heads.



Come on, you can apply yourself a little more than that.
Merle forces him: "we don't let one of our own turn"

Gotta be on your toes against people who completely miss the point of a scene and then make a quip about it!


I got that. It doesn't stop it from being amusing to me...?
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
November 20 2012 02:12 GMT
#5316
On November 20 2012 10:41 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 04:06 Conti wrote:
On November 20 2012 02:18 ViperPL wrote:
Seriously, the final meeting with Glen, Maggie and that knifehand dude was pure bs. I'm still baffled why wouldn't Glen just shoot anywhere to stop the guy from advancing, and most hilarious of all, why wouldn't any of them shoot him when he jumped them. TV stupidity at it's best.

Because you don't just shoot someone who's been part of your group for weeks, especially if you're Glenn. I don't get why you guys criticize this scene. It's the imperfections that make the show (or any show) interesting. Glenn's not a manly guy who shoots people at the slightest hint of danger, and he very, very obviously did not want to shoot a guy he knew. And Merle knew that, too, and used it to his advantage.

By all means, call Glenn an idiot for not reacting correctly, but that wasn't bad writing.


How about when he was holding the gun to Maggie's head on the ground? Surely he could have confidence in hitting a target 2 feet away, and it's not like Merle can react in the time it takes for a bullet to travel from the gun into his head. The scene should have happened like a previous poster described it, with Merle catching them one by one.


there are movies that have 5+ people aiming their guns at a person holding another hostage with a gun to a head. There's a possibility something can go wrong. He could shoot and miss or he could hit Maggie. Merle's head was right next to Maggie's head. There's a lot of risk involved and obviously the hostage means a whole lot to him. I did not see an issue with that scene.


On November 20 2012 10:54 CrimsonLotus wrote:
This show's writting is extremely retarded, But it's still entertaining to watch. The phone thing was very nonsensical and out of place compared to the comics.


so what's up with that phone call? It was just Rick imagining things?
you live and you learn
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
November 20 2012 02:29 GMT
#5317
On November 20 2012 11:12 illsick wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 10:54 CrimsonLotus wrote:
This show's writting is extremely retarded, But it's still entertaining to watch. The phone thing was very nonsensical and out of place compared to the comics.


so what's up with that phone call? It was just Rick imagining things?


i'm interested in this as well since i'm wondering what's up with that
rick's insanity seems like it will be quite a problem going into the current situation with the general having glenn and maggie
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 05:19:27
November 20 2012 02:49 GMT
#5318
On November 20 2012 11:12 illsick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 10:41 Najda wrote:
On November 20 2012 04:06 Conti wrote:
On November 20 2012 02:18 ViperPL wrote:
Seriously, the final meeting with Glen, Maggie and that knifehand dude was pure bs. I'm still baffled why wouldn't Glen just shoot anywhere to stop the guy from advancing, and most hilarious of all, why wouldn't any of them shoot him when he jumped them. TV stupidity at it's best.

Because you don't just shoot someone who's been part of your group for weeks, especially if you're Glenn. I don't get why you guys criticize this scene. It's the imperfections that make the show (or any show) interesting. Glenn's not a manly guy who shoots people at the slightest hint of danger, and he very, very obviously did not want to shoot a guy he knew. And Merle knew that, too, and used it to his advantage.

By all means, call Glenn an idiot for not reacting correctly, but that wasn't bad writing.


How about when he was holding the gun to Maggie's head on the ground? Surely he could have confidence in hitting a target 2 feet away, and it's not like Merle can react in the time it takes for a bullet to travel from the gun into his head. The scene should have happened like a previous poster described it, with Merle catching them one by one.


there are movies that have 5+ people aiming their guns at a person holding another hostage with a gun to a head. There's a possibility something can go wrong. He could shoot and miss or he could hit Maggie. Merle's head was right next to Maggie's head. There's a lot of risk involved and obviously the hostage means a whole lot to him. I did not see an issue with that scene.


Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 10:54 CrimsonLotus wrote:
This show's writting is extremely retarded, But it's still entertaining to watch. The phone thing was very nonsensical and out of place compared to the comics.


so what's up with that phone call? It was just Rick imagining things?

+ Show Spoiler [Mod edit: COMICS!] +
Yes, but in the comics it happened after basically everything in his life had went to hell, it was Rick's absolutely lowest point and it kinda made sense since at that point he had been through a lot more than in the show.


In the show it felt very random and out of place.

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javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 02:37:06
November 20 2012 04:48 GMT
#5319
On November 20 2012 11:49 CrimsonLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 11:12 illsick wrote:
On November 20 2012 10:41 Najda wrote:
On November 20 2012 04:06 Conti wrote:
On November 20 2012 02:18 ViperPL wrote:
Seriously, the final meeting with Glen, Maggie and that knifehand dude was pure bs. I'm still baffled why wouldn't Glen just shoot anywhere to stop the guy from advancing, and most hilarious of all, why wouldn't any of them shoot him when he jumped them. TV stupidity at it's best.

Because you don't just shoot someone who's been part of your group for weeks, especially if you're Glenn. I don't get why you guys criticize this scene. It's the imperfections that make the show (or any show) interesting. Glenn's not a manly guy who shoots people at the slightest hint of danger, and he very, very obviously did not want to shoot a guy he knew. And Merle knew that, too, and used it to his advantage.

By all means, call Glenn an idiot for not reacting correctly, but that wasn't bad writing.


How about when he was holding the gun to Maggie's head on the ground? Surely he could have confidence in hitting a target 2 feet away, and it's not like Merle can react in the time it takes for a bullet to travel from the gun into his head. The scene should have happened like a previous poster described it, with Merle catching them one by one.


there are movies that have 5+ people aiming their guns at a person holding another hostage with a gun to a head. There's a possibility something can go wrong. He could shoot and miss or he could hit Maggie. Merle's head was right next to Maggie's head. There's a lot of risk involved and obviously the hostage means a whole lot to him. I did not see an issue with that scene.


On November 20 2012 10:54 CrimsonLotus wrote:
This show's writting is extremely retarded, But it's still entertaining to watch. The phone thing was very nonsensical and out of place compared to the comics.


so what's up with that phone call? It was just Rick imagining things?


Yes, but in the comics it happened after basically everything in his life had went to hell, it was Rick's absolutely lowest point and it kinda made sense since at that point he had been through a lot more than in the show.

In the show it felt very random and out of place.


no, it doesn't feel "random" whatsoever. Rick was in a terrible state after Lori was killed and he was not want to come to terms with the fact that his wife is dead and he'll never be able to reconcile the problems they had with their relationship. He's not ready to let her go. Of all the people, Rick tried his hardest to keep her and Carl safe, and he failed. To make matters worse, his son had to shoot her (+ Show Spoiler +
which didn't happen in the comics
). It makes perfect sense to add the phone scene right now and the scene in the show was executed flawlessly, especially the acting.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
November 20 2012 06:13 GMT
#5320
On November 20 2012 10:22 Alay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 10:20 ChiknAdobo wrote:
So when Michonne comes up to the prison with all the walkers; I was wondering if they didn't attack here because she had zombie guts all over her


^ is what I interpretted, but as for zombie connections/behavior, it's discussed in the comic

+ Show Spoiler +
In that they follow eachother. So one starts walking, others will notice it and follow, and so on, and that's how roaming herds show up



And explained in Season 1 after Rick meets up with the Atlanta group, him and Glenn put guts all over themselves and walk to get the bag of guns through a herd of walkers. But it starts raining, washing off the guts and the walkers start becoming aware of their presence.
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