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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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necmon
194 Posts
I thought that was super clearly done, but maybe next time the director needs to tell the camera man to zoom in on a completely torn out cable at the phone and then put some subtitle (I suggest: "phone (broken)"), so that everyone can get it ^^ | ||
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Cite
Australia251 Posts
On November 20 2012 15:13 Zooper31 wrote: And explained in Season 1 after Rick meets up with the Atlanta group, him and Glenn put guts all over themselves and walk to get the bag of guns through a herd of walkers. But it starts raining, washing off the guts and the walkers start becoming aware of their presence. Just to make sure people get it, its explained in this ep even right after she slices the zombie open and its guts fall on her. She walks out past the zombies and they don't notice her. | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
I wonder how this people find the common sense to get dressed in the mornings lol. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=5318&topic_id=162444 On November 20 2012 11:49 CrimsonLotus wrote: + Show Spoiler [Mod edit: COMICS!] + Yes, but in the comics it happened after basically everything in his life had went to hell, it was Rick's absolutely lowest point and it kinda made sense since at that point he had been through a lot more than in the show. In the show it felt very random and out of place. User was warned for this post Also, I'm not enterely sure what my comment spoils about the comic other than the fact that the call still happens and that it happens in a different way... which seems silly since this has been mentioned about a dozen times, but ok. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On November 20 2012 20:42 Cite wrote: Just to make sure people get it, its explained in this ep even right after she slices the zombie open and its guts fall on her. She walks out past the zombies and they don't notice her. it's the only thing that slightly bothered me. If any bite gives you a fever and kills you. How can you basically bathe in their guts and not get sick ? Especially when you have a hole in your leg. Bacteria or whatever infects them doesn't instantly die when exposed to air.. It already bothered me in season1. Touching zombie blood should be a BIG no-no. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 21 2012 01:39 Nizaris wrote: it's the only thing that bothered me honestly. If any bite gives you a fever and kills you. How can you basically bathe in their guts and not get infected ? Especially when you have a hole in your leg. Bacteria or whatever infects them doesn't instantly die when exposed to air.. And it looked like she got some in her mouth/eyes because it was on her face. Yeah, I guess that's just one of those "gloss over the details to move the story forward" moments. | ||
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MVega
763 Posts
On November 21 2012 01:40 Requizen wrote: And it looked like she got some in her mouth/eyes because it was on her face. Yeah, I guess that's just one of those "gloss over the details to move the story forward" moments. That's one of the things that has always bothered me about this series. I like the series, don't get me wrong, but as the survivors wade around in zombie gore, attack zombies with hatchets and machetes and get covered from head to toe in blood spatter ... Yeahhh I just keep thinking "How are these people not all zombies right now?" | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 21 2012 02:42 MVega wrote: That's one of the things that has always bothered me about this series. I like the series, don't get me wrong, but as the survivors wade around in zombie gore, attack zombies with hatchets and machetes and get covered from head to toe in blood spatter ... Yeahhh I just keep thinking "How are these people not all zombies right now?" This has been somewhat explained by the fact that everyone is already "infected". It is specifically the bite, and the bite alone, that triggers the fever into death which leads to reanimation. Either way, perhaps it's best to just practice a willing suspension of disbelief.  | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On November 21 2012 02:42 MVega wrote: That's one of the things that has always bothered me about this series. I like the series, don't get me wrong, but as the survivors wade around in zombie gore, attack zombies with hatchets and machetes and get covered from head to toe in blood spatter ... Yeahhh I just keep thinking "How are these people not all zombies right now?" This is what was brought up, er, 2-4 weeks ago, until some people began crying that it doesn't matter, because why do zombies even exist in the first place, it's fiction, it doesn't need to be realistic, etc, etc. I'm going to avoid that discussion, mainly because it's hugely theoretical about how the infection in ex-Darabont's (this show, season 1 and 2) version is inconsistent. I want to demonstrate that zombies exist in hugely different forms, and that Kirkman/Darabont have a completely different type of zombie than what you're used to. ( on a side note; asdfasff learning more about all the different zombies, I've been mixing them up. Damned inconsistencies T.T ) First off, understand that in every remake with zombies, Romero, the original "creator" of the zombie, never existed. That is, the population has no idea that the word zombie even exists, and if the word exists, it certainly does not mean the "walking dead," or walkers. This is to stop bullshit where people in this forum keep saying, they should totally do this because it's something I read that you should do when you fight zombies in the real world, and they should have read this book too. Your idea of a modern zombies probably stems HEAVILY from Brooks's writing. And that's the infection via the Solenum virus, which creates zombies, and spreads via open wounds or contact with infected blood or saliva. That's also the idea of slow walking, easily avoidable zombies. This is usually the best interpretation, mainly because Brooks wrote out all of his thoughts and ideas in detail about his zombies in his survival guide. Romero's original zombies are completely different. There was no defined cause of zombies. The simple idea was, if you die, you turn into a zombie. If you were bit, you got ill and died. Zombies are slow, and don't have any memories, and subsequently can't learn. They have a very, very basic attachment to the place they died. He then fucked things over in later series by adding more stuff to zombies, like making them faster and more intelligent. O'Donnall? made the original movie based off of Romero, but he added that they could learn, had their previous memories, essentially dead humans. They could talk. They could function without the brain. Infection was based on a chemical gas, Trioxin, which contaminated humans via bite. If you died via gunshot wound, you wouldn't turn. Boyle's zombies, of 28 Days Later fame, had a virus called Rage from chimpanzees, which spread to humans via bites. They could run, so they were essentially rabid humans. Not sure because I didn't like this concept enough to care about the movie. Kirkman's comic zombies are really based off of Romero's original zombies, minus the stupid evolving part. Darabont's, The Walking Dead ex-producer, zombies are inconsistent in the first two episodes. He seems to have figured out what he wants in this third season, so it's okay now I guess. Some of the main inconsistencies were: in the season 1 premiere, they could run. In season 1 episode 3 or 4, one of them was holding a brick to the store window. He addresses the point of drinking contaminated water in season 2 with the bloater, but didn't make anything really clear. Also some bullshit where corpses reanimate depending on how full of life the person was before they died, like Shane. I don't know. I'm probably missing a lot of points and other zombies, but there's a good portion of them. I think I mistook one of these zombies because I'm sure there was one interpretation where the infection spread via scratches and bites. The main point is, your inconsistencies aren't the right inconsistencies to be worrying about. Haha. Neither of Romero's or Kirkman's or Darabont's premises stated that touching zombie blood could kill you. The theoretical discussion several pages back was how this could be possible while biting could kill you. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
but in all likelyhood, i can't see hershel's blonde daughter surviving the season. random supporting characters have a good knack for becoming zombie chow | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On November 21 2012 04:14 Destro wrote: Yea rick and daryl are so awesome this season. really hope the kill carl sometimes soon. talk about a useless character. they did replace Tdog with another token black guy, so maybe the baby will introduce an excuse to kill off carl. but in all likelyhood, i can't see hershel's blonde daughter surviving the season. random supporting characters have a good knack for becoming zombie chow + Show Spoiler [Mod Edit: Comics!] + Carl and Rick are the only ones left alive from the original group in the comics. I doubt they will ever kill off Carl or Rick, they are basically taboo. User was warned for this post edit: I really don't understand the warning. I've seen tons of people do the same thing, posting only using a spoiler with no warning... but w/e maybe new change. | ||
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
On November 21 2012 04:36 Zooper31 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Carl and Rick are the only ones left alive from the original group in the comics. I doubt they will ever kill off Carl or Rick, they are basically taboo. I don't see how carl is taboo.. they really love to shit on rick and make his life ever so miserable and we love to watch hit. Maybe what would be good, is that next season they play off that a large amount of time has passed and carl is now a bit older, and can be replaced with an actor that isn't absolutely garbage. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On November 21 2012 04:36 Zooper31 wrote: + Show Spoiler [Mod Edit: Comics!] + User was warned for this post edit: I really don't understand the warning. I've seen tons of people do the same thing, posting only using a spoiler with no warning... but w/e maybe new change. This was a ridiculously horrible spoiler. Don't act so defensive when you clearly did something that horrible and idiotic. That's probably the worst spoiler that's out there... shame on you, and shame on you again for being such a bitch about it, and then shame on you again for getting it wrong. On November 21 2012 04:00 p4NDemik wrote: Blisse, Darabont is gone from this series. He hasn't been with TWD since like episode 2 or 3 of season 2. Your points still stand though. o: I remembered something like that, but I thought they just got new writers. Do you know who's the director now? I can't seem to find that information. I updated the post a bit. At least it's good to see the show being a lot more consistent, although I don't like how often zombies just randomly stumble by. That scene in the woods when Merle was dazed, and then 6 zombies come by randomly was a bit too random, but otherwise nothing wrong with this episode. | ||
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Tor
Canada231 Posts
On November 21 2012 07:02 Blisse wrote: This was a ridiculously horrible spoiler. Don't act so defensive when you clearly did something that horrible and idiotic. That's probably the worst spoiler that's out there... shame on you, and shame on you again for being such a bitch about it, and then shame on you again for getting it wrong. o: I remembered something like that, but I thought they just got new writers. Do you know who's the director now? I can't seem to find that information. I updated the post a bit. At least it's good to see the show being a lot more consistent, although I don't like how often zombies just randomly stumble by. That scene in the woods when Merle was dazed, and then 6 zombies come by randomly was a bit too random, but otherwise nothing wrong with this episode. They were attracted by the gun shots. Merle even makes a comment about it. But yes, it was convenient timing. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On November 21 2012 07:13 Tor wrote: They were attracted by the gun shots. Merle even makes a comment about it. But yes, it was convenient timing. No, I get that they were attracted by the shots. It's just that the started a fight which lasted all of 10 seconds, and then 6 zombies appeared a couple seconds later. It would have been a lot better if they showed one or two of them coming in the background before Michonne attacked. The way all of them just appeared really felt like they were thrown in there for the sole purpose of letting Michonne get away, instead of just being randomly attracted to the sound. I don't know, but that's the feeling I got from that scene. Like a plot device, instead of something that's always looming and sometimes convenient. | ||
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WilDMousE
Chile1335 Posts
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javy_
United States1677 Posts
On November 21 2012 11:37 WilDMousE wrote: After re-watching the episode only one question comes to mind: Where the fuck did axel go D watch a third time. The other prisoner (forgot his name) said that axel was working on the generators. | ||
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