EPTIt IS like Lost all over again. Next we're going to see unlimited kerosene torches.
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
It IS like Lost all over again. Next we're going to see unlimited kerosene torches. | ||
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fams
Canada731 Posts
On November 24 2010 03:06 Zealotdriver wrote: Apparently this zombie apocalypse left alive the stupidest 1% of the population. Going into the dangerous city to rescue Meryl was stupid enough, but to pretend that the point of the mission was to also pick up the guns and tools? Do the writers think we're as stupid as they are? There would be many other police stations, gun stores, auto repair shops, hardware stores, in more suburban and rural locations with fewer zombies and that would be less likely to be already looted. It IS like Lost all over again. Next we're going to see unlimited kerosene torches. I think we are more likely to see unlimited ammo than the torches, but yes I agree. However, for entertainments sake, this was the best episode so far other than the first one. There was a rather long drought there for 'good action'. Hopefully we see some good stuff soon, that last battle with all of the zombies was pretty kool, but it wasnt like anything overly spectacular happened. Hopefully the next episode yields some results or this will have been a waste of my time : ( | ||
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pfods
United States895 Posts
On November 24 2010 03:06 Zealotdriver wrote: Apparently this zombie apocalypse left alive the stupidest 1% of the population. Going into the dangerous city to rescue Meryl was stupid enough, but to pretend that the point of the mission was to also pick up the guns and tools? Do the writers think we're as stupid as they are? There would be many other police stations, gun stores, auto repair shops, hardware stores, in more suburban and rural locations with fewer zombies and that would be less likely to be already looted. It IS like Lost all over again. Next we're going to see unlimited kerosene torches. the brother wants to find his brother. glenn went because he's a bitch and has no will power of his own. cop went because of the debt he feels towards the man who rescued him in the first epsode. black guy went because he feels guilty. all explained in the show. | ||
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
On November 24 2010 03:06 Zealotdriver wrote: Apparently this zombie apocalypse left alive the stupidest 1% of the population. Going into the dangerous city to rescue Meryl was stupid enough, but to pretend that the point of the mission was to also pick up the guns and tools? Do the writers think we're as stupid as they are? There would be many other police stations, gun stores, auto repair shops, hardware stores, in more suburban and rural locations with fewer zombies and that would be less likely to be already looted. It IS like Lost all over again. Next we're going to see unlimited kerosene torches. I thought it was pretty obvious when in the very first episode he rides a horse into a hugely populated unknown city without securing an escape path or even having a plan beyond "wandering around" that we're not dealing with military geniuses in this show. The reasons that they all gave for going into the city despite the danger was pretty good given the context of the situation, I thought. And apparently, their plan was good enough that they got away with it, minus the small hiccup with the latinos. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:27 Krigwin wrote: I didn't address it. The episode itself addressed it. Were you not watching the whole first 10 minutes post-intro where they were talking about Merle's likely plan of action? And nobody claims he tried to cut his hand before the rod, rather it seems like he never tried to cut the rod at all, which is exactly the question the episode itself addressed. No, there were a few people that didn't think he even tried to cut the pipe or the cuffs. I should have mentioned that the bottom 80% wasn't directed at you but at other people that think he chose to cut his hand before trying to cut the rod. On November 16 2010 06:37 Grettin wrote: well done sir. you have a hacksaw and you are chained to a metal pipe and u decide to cut your hand off? dont get it..  On November 16 2010 01:37 b0oyah wrote: I just dont understand why the guy didnt try to cut off the pipe or the cuffs ? thats just bad writing imo. On November 16 2010 01:55 Scorcher2k wrote: Yeah, I thought the same thing... He was just talking to the black guy in the last episode about getting the saw to cut the pipe or handcuffs and then he chooses to cut his hand off instead... Oh and he isn't on the roof anymore... On November 15 2010 15:42 Zealotdriver wrote: LOLOLOL turns out the dumbass redneck DOES cut off his own hand! LOLOLOLOL Hardly surprising the mentally deficient racist can't even see the obvious fact the he can cut the rod or the cuffs instead of HIS OWN FUCKING HAND. Seriously, It's annoying the the writers have to mention that he couldn't cut the rods and that he used a tourniquet. Do our imaginations function so poorly that the writers have to include every little detail so that we don't yell FAKE? | ||
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yourwhiteshadow
United States442 Posts
On November 24 2010 03:27 Krigwin wrote: I thought it was pretty obvious when in the very first episode he rides a horse into a hugely populated unknown city without securing an escape path or even having a plan beyond "wandering around" that we're not dealing with military geniuses in this show. The reasons that they all gave for going into the city despite the danger was pretty good given the context of the situation, I thought. And apparently, their plan was good enough that they got away with it, minus the small hiccup with the latinos. its vatos btw, not that there is a difference between vatos and latinos  i've got the comics, and i read through the first 3, i can't help but want to read the rest, but i fear it might ruin the show for me. | ||
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Krigwin
1130 Posts
It's great and all that you're so in-line with what the writers are thinking, but it's not the same for everyone and it doesn't have to do with imagination, as you said yourself many people don't have that much functional knowledge of tools. Having the writers provide in-show explanations maintains the flow of the narrative and suspension of disbelief, it's just good writing. There's no need for rage bro. | ||
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supwidit
United States26 Posts
On November 24 2010 03:06 Zealotdriver wrote: Apparently this zombie apocalypse left alive the stupidest 1% of the population. Going into the dangerous city to rescue Meryl was stupid enough, but to pretend that the point of the mission was to also pick up the guns and tools? Do the writers think we're as stupid as they are? There would be many other police stations, gun stores, auto repair shops, hardware stores, in more suburban and rural locations with fewer zombies and that would be less likely to be already looted. It IS like Lost all over again. Next we're going to see unlimited kerosene torches. Do you even watch the show? the main reason why Rick went back is to get the radio so he can comunicate with the black dude that saved him after he got out of the hospital. Yes, it is like Lost all over again: AWESOME. | ||
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LOLtex
United States148 Posts
On November 24 2010 01:56 Nienordir wrote: Im pretty sure if they looked for it, they could've found a farm house on a hill, or a good ol' castle..I'm pretty sure that most of them still have functional gates or draw bridges. If they barricade the ground level and use ropes, improvised elevators or rope ladders to get down. There would be nothing a zombie could do, since they can't use tools and won't be able to climb a flat wall. A castle? Seriously? Just how many castles do you think there are in the greater Atlanta metropolis? Or for that matter, North America? lol | ||
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trulla
Chile303 Posts
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Nienordir
98 Posts
On November 24 2010 04:46 LOLtex wrote: A castle? Seriously? Just how many castles do you think there are in the greater Atlanta metropolis? Or for that matter, North America? lol Don't be so selfish! Why should only the US get the fun of a zombie apocalypse?^^ My point is you can find warehouses, factories, etc. with strong walls and small (or unreachable high) windows everywhere. You can barricade them, weld them shut and cut the lower part of a ladder to the roof with a blowtorch (if there are any). You could even barricade a whole staircase by throwing all the crap of the upper floors into it. You could even raid a department store to get some steel plates and stuff or find a air raid shelter on a military base.. For example the defense of the latino gang seemed pretty solid compared to the pathetic trailer camp. All windows we're unreachable or blocked, all doors we're welded except for the one that was surrounded by a maze of walls and could easily be overlooked from the roof. They probably could stay there forever unless that guy, who got the arrow in the ass, turns into a zombie and kills them from the inside. xD | ||
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pfods
United States895 Posts
On November 24 2010 05:53 Nienordir wrote: Don't be so selfish! Why should only the US get the fun of a zombie apocalypse?^^ My point is you can find warehouses, factories, etc. with strong walls and small (or unreachable high) windows everywhere. You can barricade them, weld them shut and cut the lower part of a ladder to the roof with a blowtorch (if there are any). You could even barricade a whole staircase by throwing all the crap of the upper floors into it. You could even raid a department store to get some steel plates and stuff or find a air raid shelter on a military base.. For example the defense of the latino gang seemed pretty solid compared to the pathetic trailer camp. All windows we're unreachable or blocked, all doors we're welded except for the one that was surrounded by a maze of walls and could easily be overlooked from the roof. They probably could stay there forever unless that guy, who got the arrow in the ass, turns into a zombie and kills them from the inside. xD yeah and what do the latinos living in the city have to do? they have to go out and raid buildings for supplies. that's WAYYYYY less safe than parking yourself 10 miles out of the city. not to mention it's not a secure way of gathering food or water | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
is evryone suddenly a expert on zombies and survival? why are you trying so hard to find something to complain about? they explained most of the stuff so far and really, why do you care? you want a series where evryone just dies in the first episode? or where bunch of people just live inside a bunker for 10 years and you never even see a zombie? cause that would be realistic. stop beeing so picky and enjoy the series cause its really fucking good so far and no matter what you will always find stuff that doesnt seem so reasonable in evry series,book and movie ever made if you are trying to find some. last episode was pretty damn good. they switch pace ,emotions etc so well and fast and really make you care for the characters and their situation. cant wait for the next... /edit i fully understand that its fun to theorycraft on zombie survival. but "lolo stupid episode why didnt they do X! those idiots its so obvious ! shit writing!" is stupid <.< | ||
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LOLtex
United States148 Posts
On November 24 2010 05:53 Nienordir wrote: Don't be so selfish! Why should only the US get the fun of a zombie apocalypse?^^ My point is you can find warehouses, factories, etc. with strong walls and small (or unreachable high) windows everywhere. You can barricade them, weld them shut and cut the lower part of a ladder to the roof with a blowtorch (if there are any). You could even barricade a whole staircase by throwing all the crap of the upper floors into it. You could even raid a department store to get some steel plates and stuff or find a air raid shelter on a military base.. For example the defense of the latino gang seemed pretty solid compared to the pathetic trailer camp. All windows we're unreachable or blocked, all doors we're welded except for the one that was surrounded by a maze of walls and could easily be overlooked from the roof. They probably could stay there forever unless that guy, who got the arrow in the ass, turns into a zombie and kills them from the inside. xD Well yeah, but we are talking about the TV show which is happening in Atlanta currently I know in Quebec City, there's some awesome castle-like areas that would be zombie proof with the right fortifications (Old Quebec). Same goes for alot of Europe too, and I've actually been to some of the castles there! Honestly though, I can't think of a better place to hole up for a Zombie apocalypse than Mount St Michael. ![[image loading]](http://thecontaminated.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mont-saint-michel-3.jpg) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael's_Mount Fortress on an island that is accessible only during low tide, and has it's own underground railroad to resupply the place. | ||
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
I think the next step for the group is to join up with the nursing home. I look forward to the power dynamics as there would be 3 alpha males there. Vato Guy would probably retain control by default but it would be interesting to see how Rick and Shane fit in. I can't wait for them to consolidate and hopefully develop specialist commando teams. | ||
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
On November 23 2010 12:51 Krigwin wrote: That was the biggest thing. That lake provides so many crucial resources for them other than the drinking water, they were using it for laundry, they could set up a makeshift farm if they scavenge tools and seeds from the city, and as the episode showed the lake is even filled with fish life that they could rely on in a crisis. The logical solution is to set up their camp on the high ground, and using a series of trenches and maybe even fences/walls, cut off the zombies' access to the lake while funneling them into attack lines towards the camp, where the survivors can block them off at critical bottlenecks and with their incredible supply of ammo (or even just melee weapons + crossbow), hold off any horde regardless of size as long as they don't get tired. Now obviously it's not really realistic to expect such militaristic thinking from a bunch of civilians and two small-town cops, but they instead went for like the complete reverse, most stupid set-up possible: a completely open and undefended camp on low, flat ground with entry from every direction and no warning system, guards, or fall-backs in place. At the very least, they should've had at least one lookout, and all adults is armed at all times with melee weapons. They had at least two vehicles including one large trailer, why not push the two vehicles together and then set up ladders so they can retreat up to high ground on the roofs when they're getting swarmed? Instead they had a complete lack of security and preparation so when the inevitable swarm happened, it was total chaos and huge casualties. Granted it's just TV and this is all fancy nit-picking from people who have spent too much time thinking about zombies, but this is a minor gripe of mine. I think that the biggest reason for why they did none of that is that they didnt ever expect zombies to make it that far. I think they say it at some point, that zombies had never made it that far, when they find one eating a deer. | ||
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Fitzhunt1
United States169 Posts
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yleM iLk
7 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
On November 24 2010 03:14 fams wrote: I think we are more likely to see unlimited ammo than the torches, but yes I agree. However, for entertainments sake, this was the best episode so far other than the first one. There was a rather long drought there for 'good action'. Hopefully we see some good stuff soon, that last battle with all of the zombies was pretty kool, but it wasnt like anything overly spectacular happened. Hopefully the next episode yields some results or this will have been a waste of my time : ( This series isn't about 'good action', its about character interactions between people in a crazy fucked up world and how they change over time. If you're in this show just for the action and you're already complaining about the lack of fighting zombies then you will be disapointed and i suggest you stop watching now. Good episode, i still find sawing of the hand utterly retarded but ahwell | ||
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GoDannY
Germany442 Posts
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