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Ender985
Spain910 Posts
What I don't really understand is why is she not just leaving Andrea behind. They have known each other for only 8 months and she seemed to have been more of a liability than anything else, if she wants to stay with the Governor just let her and keep going. Also, mad props to the Governor actor, that scene with Andrea was filled with rage and violence in the most subtle ways. I was expecting the guy to snap and try to rape her at any moment, but he did not in the end. Superb acting! | ||
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Quenchiest
Canada286 Posts
On November 09 2012 03:45 Hashbaz wrote: My point is that ugly and degrading emotions are ugly and degrading in and of themselves, whether they are about real people or TV people. Your counter-argument is that it is just TV. Me: A despite B! You: But, B! Result: You haven't contradicted A Just a question. How do you feel about people cheering on the serial killer in a slasher flick? I know it's not exactly the same thing, but it's still fictional death. When I watch slasher films that's what I'm there for. To see people get gutted. Would I enjoy this if it was real? Hell no. But knowing it isn't real is what allows me to enjoy it. It's sort of the same thing here. Damn glad she's dead because I didn't like her. Yet in real life I wouldn't wish death upon anyone just because I didn't like them. Maybe I'm missing something. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On November 09 2012 06:51 Ender985 wrote: Michonne makes a lot of sense to me, she is a wild animal in a cage. Did good enough by herself not trusting basically anyone so far, so I don't see why should she become dependant of a total stranger for her safety all of a sudden. What I don't really understand is why is she not just leaving Andrea behind. They have known each other for only 8 months and she seemed to have been more of a liability than anything else, if she wants to stay with the Governor just let her and keep going. Also, mad props to the Governor actor, that scene with Andrea was filled with rage and violence in the most subtle ways. I was expecting the guy to snap and try to rape her at any moment, but he did not in the end. Superb acting! My thoughts exactly...if i were in her place I would just leave Andrea behind.I mean she did more the enough already saving her ass from the undead provinding shelter,protection and food for the last 8 month.She clearly sees (suspects) that something is wrong with the governor and i can't blame her...i mean the dude is not right in the head. | ||
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necmon
194 Posts
That was my take on it. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 09 2012 19:37 necmon wrote: I understood the scene between Andrea and the governor on an entirely different level. It was more one of sexual tension between them. The gov giving her his first name, which he gave nobody else, basically telling her, that she's special etc. bla bla. That was my take on it. He's a manipulative bastard, he probably gave her a fake name just to get her to stay. He obviously doesn't want them to leave because he's worried they'll tell people about Woodbury and it could cause problems, so if they do leave, he has to kill them. He probably just wants them around because he wants something out of them, but I think if they make a serious motion to leave, he'll have Merle take them out. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On November 09 2012 15:54 Zerg.Zilla wrote: My thoughts exactly...if i were in her place I would just leave Andrea behind.I mean she did more the enough already saving her ass from the undead provinding shelter,protection and food for the last 8 month.She clearly sees (suspects) that something is wrong with the governor and i can't blame her...i mean the dude is not right in the head. Well to be fair, we 8 months is a pretty long time, and we don't know how many times andrea might've helped/saved michonne from a random walker too. Having another person cover your back is always better, they've developed into a BFF level friendship, she didn't leave her behind when she was sick, she's not gonna leave her behind now when she knows something's not up. Maybe there's some lesbian love going on, who knows, but 8 months living with someone, as close as they did, on the verge of death every day, makes you close to someone. And remember, the zombie apocalypse hasn't been that long, we know rick was bed ridden for a month or two when it happened right? then it's basically the time from rick's awakening -> them leaving the farm, which can't be that long, because we know that Lori JUST gave birth. assuming 9 month full length pregnancy, and she didn't sleep with shane until y'know, 1-2 months after the outbreak happened and she thought Rick was dead, that's a total of 11-12 months.... 8 months out of 12 months of apocalypse, with someone you've grown to trust and lay your life on? Yeah, I don't think it's so easy to just leave her ass alone, it's not like there's a 'plenty of fish in the sea'. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On November 09 2012 23:34 Requizen wrote: He's a manipulative bastard, he probably gave her a fake name just to get her to stay. He obviously doesn't want them to leave because he's worried they'll tell people about Woodbury and it could cause problems, so if they do leave, he has to kill them. He probably just wants them around because he wants something out of them, but I think if they make a serious motion to leave, he'll have Merle take them out. If The Governor orders Merle to take out Andrea and Michonne, I think that will be the moment Merle leaves The Governor. Merle's facial expressions when Governor whispers an order into his ear makes me think that Merle doesn't like what he's doing. | ||
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abominare
United States1216 Posts
On November 09 2012 06:51 Ender985 wrote: Michonne makes a lot of sense to me, she is a wild animal in a cage. Did good enough by herself not trusting basically anyone so far, so I don't see why should she become dependant of a total stranger for her safety all of a sudden. What I don't really understand is why is she not just leaving Andrea behind. They have known each other for only 8 months and she seemed to have been more of a liability than anything else, if she wants to stay with the Governor just let her and keep going. Also, mad props to the Governor actor, that scene with Andrea was filled with rage and violence in the most subtle ways. I was expecting the guy to snap and try to rape her at any moment, but he did not in the end. Superb acting! You're biased because everyone would be happier if they walked away from Andrea. Rick gets told to let sophie go and keep moving? Nope spend nearly a whole season. Get slightly separated from Andrea? WE CAN"T GO BACK EVER. @ the poster talking about sexual tension between andrea and gov, that would explain the almost complete grimace the gov has when he chatting during that scene | ||
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Misca
Netherlands605 Posts
How is it possible that everyone is infected by the virus and turns into an undead upon death? Why do they turn when bitten when they are already infected? What does an undead bite trigger what death also triggers? | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:36 Misca wrote: This might already been answered, but I had trouble finding the answer to this. How is it possible that everyone is infected by the virus and turns into an undead upon death? Why do they turn when bitten when they are already infected? What does an undead bite trigger what death also triggers? The bite triggers death which then triggers the walking while dead condition. You don't turn into a zombie until you're dead even when you're bitten. Being bitten just kills you. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On November 10 2012 07:36 Misca wrote: This might already been answered, but I had trouble finding the answer to this. How is it possible that everyone is infected by the virus and turns into an undead upon death? Why do they turn when bitten when they are already infected? What does an undead bite trigger what death also triggers? They never explained how everyone is infected I believe, most likely something airborne. They turn when they die, not when bitten, the bites contain horrible diseases & infections and the amount of blood loss kills if not treated properly. Something about the body shutting down during death animates the virus somehow, again not exactly explained, it just happens. | ||
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Misca
Netherlands605 Posts
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 10 2012 22:01 Lylat wrote: For me the biggest question is how the hell some zombies that barely run could overwhelm the freaking US army ? Military training (outside of special operations) trains soldiers to aim for center of mass, so "shoot them in the head" isn't something that they'd figure out for some time. I'd imagine the first few weeks were "Open fire! Shit that didn't work, run! Oh jeez we're surrounded blarglhawoiaf BRAINS" | ||
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blug
Australia623 Posts
On November 11 2012 00:47 Requizen wrote: Military training (outside of special operations) trains soldiers to aim for center of mass, so "shoot them in the head" isn't something that they'd figure out for some time. I'd imagine the first few weeks were "Open fire! Shit that didn't work, run! Oh jeez we're surrounded blarglhawoiaf BRAINS" How do zombies take down a tank or even a military camp? | ||
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JayLN
Germany25 Posts
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
On November 11 2012 01:19 blug wrote: How do zombies take down a tank or even a military camp? You should read World War Z | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 11 2012 01:19 blug wrote: How do zombies take down a tank or even a military camp? Look at the one in the first episode. Swarm a tank until it runs out of gas, the people inside die of hunger, kill themselves, or get out and try to run. A camp getting flooded with zombies would be like the farm at the end of S2, a herd that size can't really be held off by manpower. Which is why it's better to keep moving in a zombie apocalypse, imo. | ||
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Bourneq
Sweden800 Posts
On November 11 2012 01:19 blug wrote: How do zombies take down a tank or even a military camp? Surround the tank, they cant go out because they are swarmed, then they die from thirst. If a tank gets swarmed I dont know if it could go forward or backwards. But where can they go if HQ is overrunned? Tanks are not that big of a problem, I cant imagine that tank fire can kill enough zombies to make them effective. | ||
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